Warhammer Warhammer General discussion thread: Now with 100% more Space Marines

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NOTE: I am bedeviled by bad lighting, and the flash caused the whites and reds to oversaturate at some angles

A light box helps with that sometimes. A more openly, indirectly/diffusely light room can also be better for photography.
 

Tyzuris

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Which Primarch's powers would you most like to have?

I think I'd go for Sanguinius. Beautiful, cool-ass wings and being a tall super strong - and fast angelic being with precognition powers would be cool.
 

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I'd say guilliman, but since I also have autism I think I already have that power.
 

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Going to say something controversial, and that might incite some fierce debate...Sigmar. Don't tell me that in the original lore that it wasn't obvious.
 

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UEF Bulldog Main Battle Tank 28mm

For anyone who likes IG armored tactics but not the models, nuclear shrimp game has finally gotten their Russ stand in on the storefront. I've wanted a unit of these for ages, though annoyingly between building a world eaters army and building a BT collection, I can't afford to get a squad of them for a few months.
 

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Exo-Lords 28mm Heroic Power Armoured Wargaming Miniatures and Conversion Bits. Anvil Industry High Quality Resin Wargaming Miniatures

Anvil industry has thier new, primaris sized (or as they call it, 36mm superheroic scale) marine models up for sale, and they're everything you'd expect from anvil. Detailed, highly modular and customizable due to a wide variety of alternative parts, and dancing on the line between tactical and tacticool.

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They look kinda like they're from some 40k/fallout/CoD crossover setting, I can't wait to get a squad or two. Sadly they don't match any of my current models so I don't think they'll see much action, but they'll be a super fun building and painting project.
 

Tyzuris

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So I went to a bookstore asking for Horus Heresy books. There's over 50 of them. And apparently The Siege of Terra happens already by the fourth one.

So what the heck are the rest of the 50 books about? Just filler for periods inbetween those four first books?
 

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So I went to a bookstore asking for Horus Heresy books. There's over 50 of them. And apparently The Siege of Terra happens already by the fourth one.

So what the heck are the rest of the 50 books about? Just filler for periods inbetween those four first books?

A lot of them are about the individual Primarchs or events happening during or prior to the Horus Heresy itself, like the Schism of Mars in Mechanicum, the Burning of Prospero in Prospero Burns, or the various battles between the Word Bearers and the Ultramarines that kept them from getting to Terra itself in Betrayal and Mark of Calth. So the degree to which they are filler depends on how much you care about Imperial/Traitor Faction X doing things during the Heresy that weren't the actual Siege of Terra.
 

Tyzuris

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So I have been thinking of trying out 40k TT and starting with Dark Angels chapter due to them being apparently versatile and having everything like Librarians, Terminators, etc... and then also getting one Chaos Legion as well and going with Iron Warriors due to liking their armoured warfare and artillery - style along with Perturabo being my favourite Traitor Primarch.

And I'd also get the 30k versions of these.

Opinions on what I can expect with these starters?
 

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I'm not sure how viable getting a 40k and 30k dual purpose army is, because not only do the two armies have different units compositions that work best (30k tactical marines are apperantly pretty good, 40k ones are not), there's not a lot of units that the two eras actually share, particularly now with 40k going increasingly primaris.

Most Marine armies have everything, I think the only exclusive units are some dreadnought variants and flyers (Dark Angels don't have stormtalons, but instead have thier own flyer, etc). As for DA specially, they don't have centurions of either type, but otherwise I don't think there are any particular gaps in their unit roster. As for unique stuff, they have deathwing knights, which are....I won't call them better assault terminators, they're just different assault terminators, and they have a bunch of other terminator units like the deathwing anceint that buff other terminators. They also have elite bikers with plasma guns on the bikes and slightly better melee weapons. By the time you get some, they should have a doctrine from the newest book, which will improve the entire army significantly. But since we don't know what the doctrine is yet, it's hard to tell how the army will play because doctrines can really change up how an army works and what they can do.

As for iron warriors, they're not actually very good at armored warfare and artillery, at least not in 40k. They're the mirror image of the imperial fist, so they're decent-ish tank hunters and can deny enemies the benefit of cover, but as far as I know the tratior legions don't really have an armored warfare force the way the the loyalists do with the iron hands.
 

Tyzuris

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I've been thinking about what type of a Chapter I want for some time now.

I have come to a thought I want a Space Marine Chapter with battle tanks and mechanized infantry that both work together with artillery and utilize also librarians and terminators.

Asides from making up a Chapter, which would be the best bet?
 

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Asides from making up a Chapter, which would be the best bet?

Iron hands have the best tanks and artillery. The Iron hands psyker powers lean more toward supporting tanks than supporting infantry, but they have some general purpose powers as well. Iron hands terminators don't have anything really great going for them (aside from the same FNP that all iron hands get), but iron hands assault terminators are just as nasty as most other chapters (iron hands tactical terminators are awful, much like everyone else's).

You might try checking 1d4chan's tactics pages, they're very good and can let you get a very solid grasp of what any given army or unit is good at.
 

Tyzuris

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You might try checking 1d4chan's tactics pages, they're very good and can let you get a very solid grasp of what any given army or unit is good at.
I've been resading 1d4chan for lore. It's by far the most entertaining 40k wiki to read.
 

Tyzuris

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I've also been thinking of after having read enough 40k books to make my own SM Chapter in addition to whatever I will buy from the existing Chapters.

I've been entertaining the thought of an Iron Warriors loyalist splitoff faction called Steel Brigade / Steel Brothers.

They'd be a not-Codex Astartes compliant being roughly a few thousand marines strong.
 

Tyzuris

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BTW do you guys agree or disagree with the Emperor on the topic of Council of Nicea that the only one to use Psyker powers responsibly without fear of corruption is the Emperor himself?
 

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BTW do you guys agree or disagree with the Emperor on the topic of Council of Nicea that the only one to use Psyker powers responsibly without fear of corruption is the Emperor himself?

I don't think that's quite what he said, but the general premise that the number of people who can be trusted to safely use psychic powers is far smaller than the number of people that actually have psychic powers seems correct, yes.
 

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