Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
A new bomber called PAK DA is being developed by the russians.
The first aircraft is supposed to constructed in 2021.
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A new bomber called PAK DA is being developed by the russians.
The first aircraft is supposed to constructed in 2021.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
A new bomber called PAK DA is being developed by the russians.
The first aircraft is supposed to constructed in 2021.
Russia with stealth bombers.
F U C K
You are assuming they can afford more than maybe a dozen of the things.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
That still makes the Russian air force immeasurably more potent than what it is now. A dozen of these things is quite a dramatic improvement over the TU-95, isn't it?
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
The Russians also have some TU-160s, 17 all told in fact with at least another 10 ordered(they want 30 at the minimum and ideally 40)and they've been modernizing their existing fleet quite a bit. It would be 18 in service but they lost one to an accident back in 2003
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Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
South african variant of the Mi-24 hind
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Ekranoplan at it's new home - construction site of a military themed theme park.
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An F-35 flying over a 747 Carrier with the SPACE SHUTTLE on it's back at Edwards Air Force Base!
That's Endeavour on her way to her final home at the California Science Center aerospace museum in Los Angeles.
Vargas Fan
Head over heels in love :)
There aren't that many pictures of this but before the war the heavy fighter was a bit of a craze. We had examples like the Bf-110, the Bell Airacuda. Later it seemed to catch on again with the Mosquito and the Black Widow among other designs.
However, this aircraft seemed all but forgotten and it's a shame none survived. The Fokker G-1
However, this aircraft seemed all but forgotten and it's a shame none survived. The Fokker G-1
There aren't that many pictures of this but before the war the heavy fighter was a bit of a craze. We had examples like the Bf-110, the Bell Airacuda. Later it seemed to catch on again with the Mosquito and the Black Widow among other designs.
However, this aircraft seemed all but forgotten and it's a shame none survived. The Fokker G-1
Nice one.Fokker had strange ideas before war - another was Fokker D.23 duck-like fighter.
Maybe if they just made more D.21,they would fight...5 day more.
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Vargas Fan
Head over heels in love :)
Also, how can we have a Warbirds thread and not have one of the most underappreciated but most beautiful aircraft ever, the Saab Draken. I saw a pair of these in Austrian markings while on ATC Camp at RAF Wildenrath in the 80s
Aaron Fox
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The venerable F-111 Aardvark. Sure it was one of McNammera's brainchild projects, so to speak, but surprisingly enough it is a good call. Designed as a fighter-bomber from the outset, the F-111 killed more tanks than the A-10 in its lifespan. It was also the last of the tactical bombers -or 'tac-bombers' for short, the basic idea is to have a smaller bomber that can reach the front and do things like bomb the enemy into oblivion, or in the case of the F-111's case plink the enemy into oblivion via smart bombs and ATGMs, with their middling bomb load (between dive bomber and strategic bomber)- in the world's airforces by the time of its retirement. It also was loaded with many innovations that withstood the test of time including terrain-following radar. While the variable swept-wing design would be dropped for more conventional wing designs, this wing design allowed for maximizing performance at a variety of speeds.
Sadly, this aircraft would be replaced by later F-15 variants after the Cold War, leaving a huge hole in the US's air roster.
Erwin_Pommel
Well-known member
Just a picture showing a very barebones evolution of the best air force out there, Her Majesty's.
You mean third best.
Just a picture showing a very barebones evolution of the best air force out there, Her Majesty's.
Behind the USAF and the USN
McNamara's bad call was trying to force the F-111 on the Navy, and to a degree pretending it was a fighter in the first place as opposed to a tactical strike bomber.
There's nothing sad about that other than nostalgia, the F-15E actually *is* the versatile and deadly multirole fighter-bomber that the F-111 was imagined to be.
Aaron Fox
Well-known member
That is... less than accurate. The F-111 was designed as a multi-role aircraft first with an emphasis on tactical bomber capabilities. McNamara wanted to reduce duplication, increase part commonality, and keep development costs and time down and he wasn't wrong in that regard.
Not really, the US air roster was left without a tactical bomb/missile truck outside of the A-10 (and even then, the A-10 wasn't as adequate and is useless when anything more than some idiots with some AAGs shows up, the moment that people with even Iraqi-level competence in IADS comes to play, you're going to start losing airframes to battle damage rather quickly). Also, the F-15E is a poor fighter-bomber, given that it was designed as a fighter first and foremost and its anti-ground capabilities are -at best- a distant second to its anti-air capabilities.
We've already been over this, @Aaron Fox, the A-10 was MORE SURVIVABLE while not being allowed to use their preferred attack profile than the F-16, which flew lower-threat missions and within its preferred attack profile. Constantly repeating a lie does not magically make it the truth.