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[Terthna]

Hong Kong's Free Press Is Dying

When Hong Kong's national security law was passed in June 2020, the law's many critics warned it would have a…

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Chinese authorities are raiding the newsrooms and arresting the Editors of Hong Kong's once free press. Or at least that's what they apparently did with the Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily, not too long ago...



The reporters livestreamed the raids even after it was declared a crime scene. When they were told not to film, they set up a camera on the roof. When they weren't allowed to report using their now seized computers, they used their mobile phones instead. Other pro-Democracy Newspapers are still in operation such as Stand News and Citizen News but it seems like they too will likely be under threat from the sweeping new National Security Laws that sparked off this second round of protests almost two years ago.

Apple Daily was founded back in 1995, before the CCP moved in after Britain's withdrawal by Jimmy Lai, a Canton-born entrepreneur who smuggled himself into Hong Kong at the age of 12 in 1959. Jimmy Lai himself was arrested last April and is facing a twenty month sentence for 'unlawful assembly' charges. Along with the Apple Daily, he owned several other publications and retailers both in Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Well that's it; any form of resistance in Hong Kong is basically done at this point. Maybe things could have turned out differently had any western nation backed protesters, but despite the CCP's accusations that never happened; not even Trump's administration could resist the allure of China's money.

 

[Zachowon]

Well that's it; any form of resistance in Hong Kong is basically done at this point. Maybe things could have turned out differently had any western nation backed protesters, but despite the CCP's accusations that never happened; not even Trump's administration could resist the allure of China's money.

How could one defend Hong Kong when they literally are not like Taiwan and are legally a city of China at that point? Unlike Taiwam, no country could support those protesters without getting smacked down u less the US went full total war and put a whole battle group or two at the harbor kf Hong Kong and threaten to level China.

Aka an act of war

 

[Robovski]

Well that's it; any form of resistance in Hong Kong is basically done at this point. Maybe things could have turned out differently had any western nation backed protesters, but despite the CCP's accusations that never happened; not even Trump's administration could resist the allure of China's money.

Once the British decided to give this back, this goose was cooked. Maybe they could have walked back that promise before the handover, but once it was in Chinese hands, this was all over. Really this is legally part of China now to do with as they see fit.

 

[Cherico]

Once the British decided to give this back, this goose was cooked. Maybe they could have walked back that promise before the handover, but once it was in Chinese hands, this was all over. Really this is legally part of China now to do with as they see fit.

utimently hong kong isn't defenisable as a location, if china is united its getting it back.

And lets face facts communists do not keep promises, or do the whole honor thing they were always going to break their word.

 

[Morphic Tide]

Can still make a show of at least trying to rake China over the coals on a human rights basis, given their open rejection of even paying lip service to freedom of speech and free trade.

And, of course, there's always the issue of bringing Hong Kong in line near-certainly damaging its commercial successes, so any of the r/Sino types that say all the brutality is "worth it" moving in will see that it is, in fact, not worth it because it's strictly detrimental to lifestyles as they see their neighbors complain that shit's flowing downhill and witness the ongoing crackdowns making things worse.

The Hong Kong situation could well turn into the Chernobyl of the CCP, if the Three Georges Dam doesn't. Because they can't really hide that a city of millions with bustling tourism serving as a major gateway to outside trade has been gutted by trying to bring their policies there, if such is what ends up happening.

Anything but wild success in Hong Kong spells enormous trouble for the CCP. Because if they can't bring Hong Kong under control without enormously damaging the value of it, what's that say about Taiwan?

 

[Zachowon]

Can still make a show of at least trying to rake China over the coals on a human rights basis, given their open rejection of even paying lip service to freedom of speech and free trade.

And, of course, there's always the issue of bringing Hong Kong in line near-certainly damaging its commercial successes, so any of the r/Sino types that say all the brutality is "worth it" moving in will see that it is, in fact, not worth it because it's strictly detrimental to lifestyles as they see their neighbors complain that shit's flowing downhill and witness the ongoing crackdowns making things worse.

The Hong Kong situation could well turn into the Chernobyl of the CCP, if the Three Georges Dam doesn't. Because they can't really hide that a city of millions with bustling tourism serving as a major gateway to outside trade has been gutted by trying to bring their policies there, if such is what ends up happening.

Anything but wild success in Hong Kong spells enormous trouble for the CCP. Because if they can't bring Hong Kong under control without enormously damaging the value of it, what's that say about Taiwan?

Taiwan they can use military force to get. Not so easy with Hong Kong. Since Hong Kong are still on mainland China and had no military to really fight. Taiwan though will fight until the end

 

[49ersfootball]

OMG again ?????

 

[Marduk]

utimently hong kong isn't defenisable as a location, if china is united its getting it back.

And lets face facts communists do not keep promises, or do the whole honor thing they were always going to break their word.

Yeah, unless UK would be willing to play nuclear chicken against the CCP, in hindsight good luck with UK's choice of leaders, completely indefensible. Unlike Taiwan, China can just drive their metric crapload of divisions there, and there's no way anyone could match that in conventional warfare, especially with the amount of strategic depth available.
With Taiwan, they would have to first pull off an amphibious assault that would make D-Day look small, with probably 2 world's most powerful navies, possibly with minor friends, opposing it. The only thing holding China back is that in terms of naval force they don't have anything close to the sheer size of their army, and as such the considerable risk of failing the operation and the loss of face and other things that would come with this are too much for them to try.

 

[Jormungandr]

I've spoken to a few Chinese people who live in Hong Kong in the past, and they basically view "mainland" Chinese people are dirty barbarians (no manners, respect, spitting everywhere, et cetera) with money. They... really don't like them.

Have things changed or is that still the general view?

 

[Terthna]

How could one defend Hong Kong when they literally are not like Taiwan and are legally a city of China at that point? Unlike Taiwam, no country could support those protesters without getting smacked down u less the US went full total war and put a whole battle group or two at the harbor kf Hong Kong and threaten to level China.

Aka an act of war

Someone could have at least offered asylum to those in Hong Kong being persecuted by the CCP.

 

[Zachowon]

Someone could have at least offered asylum to those in Hong Kong being persecuted by the CCP.

And how do you expect then to get to said country?

 

[Vaermina]

Someone could have at least offered asylum to those in Hong Kong being persecuted by the CCP.

Multiple countries did, and hundreds of thousands took them up on it.

 

[Terthna]

And how do you expect then to get to said country?

We're talking bare minimum here; helping to bring them over would be the next step up.

Multiple countries did, and hundreds of thousands took them up on it.

Really? That's news to me; but it's good to hear that something is being done for them.

 

[Jormungandr]

Multiple countries did, and hundreds of thousands took them up on it.

Yup. IIRC a lot of them came to the UK (makes sense) and Canada (poor bastards).

 

[Husky_Khan]

Apparently NBC News played a part in shutting down Apple Daily and its million paper circulation.

How NBC News was used by the CCP to further the demise of democracy in Hong Kong

China accused the Apple Daily of "fake news" based on NBC's sloppy reporting and used this made-up allegation to in their campaign to destroy Hong Kong's pro-democracy newspaper.

thepostmillennial.com

Gotta do everything you can to help Biden, including trashing pro-Democracy papers in Hong Kong that dare investigate Hunter Biden's illicit dealings in CHina. Who would've thought the CCP would've used this to justify shutting down Apple Daily mere weeks later?

 

[Husky_Khan]

The timing of this travel ban is surely coincidental.

Hong Kong bans all incoming flights from UK over Covid concerns

The city is worried about the more infectious Delta strain and ranks Britain as a 'high risk' country.

www.bbc.com

Can't have that ChiCom Cough affecting China after all.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hong Kong's population has declined by over one percent over the past twelve months, equating almost 90,000 people and is the biggest drop in over sixty years. It's believed to largely be related to China passing it's new National Security Law as well as strict WuFlu security measures still in place (Hong Kong had 12,000 cases and 200 deaths since the CommieCough Pandemic began). Around 34,000 BNO (British National Overseas) passport holders have applied to emigrate to the United Kingdom just between January and March of this year alone. Another beneficiary of the exodus is the Republic of China Taiwan. One notable lawmaker threatened with arrest fled to Australia.

In another ironic twist, the ChiComs disbanded Hong Kongs largest Teachers Union for spreading anti-government sentiment and for resisting the directions to remove 'anti-government' materials from the schools.

Thousands Leaving Hong Kong, Teachers Quit Amid Security Law and Pandemic

Data shows Hong Kong has seen biggest population decline in 60 years

www.voanews.com

 

[Husky_Khan]

Looks like they're hitting the Democracy movement while it's down.

National security police have frozen all of the assets of the group behind Hong Kong’s
annual vigil marking the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown and ordered its staff not to deal with any items in its June 4 museum.

The development came days after members of the 32-year-old Hong Kong Alliance in Support of Patriotic Democratic Movements of China passed a resolution to disband on Saturday by a 41-4 majority after coming under increasing scrutiny by authorities in recent months.

Police freeze all assets of Hong Kong group behind annual June 4 vigil

Alliance secretary Richard Tsoi, who is handling group’s liquidation, says he was notified by police’s National Security Department about move.

www.scmp.com

 

[Husky_Khan]

A raid by Hong Kong police successfully shut down another online media outlet in Hong Kong. The Police arrested six current or former staff of 'Stand News,' a pro-democracy outlet in a raid involving reportedly hundreds of police officers. The arrests were on the basis of conspiracy to "publish seditious information." Stand News was apparently the premier pro-democracy news outlet after Hong Kong and ChiCom authorities shut down the Apple Daily.

Hong Kong’s Stand News outlet shuts down after police raid

Staff of pro-democracy news website Stand News accused of ‘conspiracy to publish seditious publication’.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[49ersfootball]

Now what could possibly go wrong ? 🤔