2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

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Arch Dornan

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Maybe? I haven't actually sat down to watch any of his shit in ages, I haven't really had the time. I think the last one I saw was the one on Constantine.
He summarised how Hadrian fucked Judea the Roman way no matter how much gorilla warfare they tried when Hadrian didn't give a fuck and continued to fuck them even harder. I don't blame Jews for hating him. Romans are one of the very few that would take rebels thinking they're the shit at being gorilla warfare enthusiasts and show them the error of their ways.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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He summarised how Hadrian fucked Judea the Roman way no matter how much gorilla warfare they tried when Hadrian didn't give a fuck and continued to fuck them even harder. I don't blame Jews for hating him. Romans are one of the very few that would take rebels thinking they're the shit at being gorilla warfare enthusiasts and show them the error of their ways.


It's because Romans historically LOLno'd Guerilla warfare despite all the constant uprisings because they came from a culture of street brawlers. If you read up on Roman history, political bosses like the guy who put Tammany Hall on the map were rookies by comparison and it was basically the norm for every faction to have their own street gangs trained specifically tear up the other guys.

Their army was merely an extension of that.

There was an event during the punic wars where a few war elephants got into a Roman colony and their commanders decided to go into the ghetto of one city and brawl with the local politicians hoodlums.

It resulted in a bunch of juvenile delinquents killing war elephants and dragging their mahoots down and running their asses down the street for their trouble. The Roman military machine was really just well organized, well provisioned, incredibly well trained bunch of street rats 300767289228263424.png
 
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Arch Dornan

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It's because Romans historically LOLno'd Gorilla warfare despite all the constant uprisings because they came from a culture of street brawlers. If you read up on Roman history, political bosses like the guy who put Tammany Hall on the map were rookies by comparison and it was basically the norm for every faction to have their own street gangs trained specifically tear up the other guys.

Their army was merely an extension of that.
There were some crazy mother fuckers. The Celt Gauls came and looted them but one day Julius needed loot for his career and the rest was history. Hannibal and many other military hot shots like Phyruss thought they could fuck the Romans but ended up losing no matter their victories.

Their army after Marius was when it was fucking on. Lots of landless and poor as fuck commoners who want money and land of their own because of the snooty blue bloods hogging it all back home their generals would oblige them to take it from foreign lands all the loot and women or whatever else takes their fancy. That's a lot of motivation to serve right there.
 
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PsihoKekec

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The grid collapsing into 10,000 local grids around the local power station because of unreliability of any long distance power draw becoming unreliable is annoying, produces more work, and lowers the resilience of any one areas power (since if your power station goes down, local power goes away). But, its not end of civilization bad.
Actually it's a disaster, the main reason for integrated grid is that multiple energy providers can reduce the power fluctuation that comes from constantly changing demand. Most power sources are rather inflexible in their output, so having a network built around single one is rather damaging to the consumers, especially due to fragile state of the most modern day electronics
 

JagerIV

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I think I should also mention that my current bet in any civil war would be the Blues so to speak winning, mostly by successfully suppressing things so they don't ever come to a civil war, isolating pockets enough that they can reduce those pockets, and finally leaning on foreign resources to eventually outlast and attrition the red areas away if it does come to open rebelion and they lose control of the areas.

What I think I was mostly reacting to was the idea that

1) being the side with like, 10 A-10s left makes you the winning side, which I find a little silly: air power takes time and million man armies protecting the airfields to be effective. 5 guys with basic rifles shut down A-10 operations without mass ground operations.

2) That it would be any sort of immediate cataclysmic collapse which ends everything in 3 weeks.

@PsihoKekec , sure, its not ideal, but not unmanageable either. Home generators for example show that small grids do work. You'd obviously want to keep the grid integrated to whatever degree it does not threaten local grid stability in a combat area, but its not a problem that can't be adapted around, most likely with surprisingly minimal effort or disruption, at least to critical war needs.
 

Zachowon

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A second civil war in the US is the end of the modern world and the start of a economic depression that would basically crash the world and probably end in nuclear hell because of the collapse of China and Russia
 

JagerIV

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A second civil war in the US is the end of the modern world and the start of a economic depression that would basically crash the world and probably end in nuclear hell because of the collapse of China and Russia

Now that's just being silly. The US is not the source of all that is good in the world. It would suck for many people, I guess it might be the end of the modern world in terms of the US driven world order, but I'm not sure the point of being overly mellowdramatic about it.
 

ATP

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You know, if we do have a second civil war, I don't think the conflict will be restricted to just two sides; there's enough division in this country that I wouldn't be surprised if everything devolves into warring city-states.

Rather like 30th war in germany - there were 2 sides,but various factions was still fighting for their own goals.
But...maybe you get Mormon republic when they could finally get 10 wives each ?
 

Zachowon

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Now that's just being silly. The US is not the source of all that is good in the world. It would suck for many people, I guess it might be the end of the modern world in terms of the US driven world order, but I'm not sure the point of being overly mellowdramatic about it.
I'm not. Economically the US is what keeps the world spinning. US goes to Civil War, China collapses, war breaks out. Europe collapses, war breaks out as Russis finally had a chance
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Now that's just being silly. The US is not the source of all that is good in the world. It would suck for many people, I guess it might be the end of the modern world in terms of the US driven world order, but I'm not sure the point of being overly mellowdramatic about it.

It would cause a global economic collapse overnight and numerous countries whose existence is owed to the US military would probably not exist in their current forms come the morning...

So yeah it would.

America is the dominant cultural, economic and military power and if it goes into free fall so too goes everyone else.

It's why all the traitors in the IC and the Pentagon and the Rinos babble about managed decline.
 
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TheRomanSlayer

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I'm wondering more about the potential spillover of the Second American Civil War into Canada, given that Vancouver is only a few hours away from the border. Moreover, I would think that the Trudeau regime would simply side with their Biden admin 'comrades' against the rebels.

Furthermore, Canada is also divided in terms of ideology as well, with the West being more in line with some parts of rural America. Only the East, and probably the coastal areas of BC would be more left-leaning.
 

JagerIV

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Canada would be neutral in the conflict, but of course Trudeau would render all possible aid to the regime, short of aiding them overtly. Basically, he would take a bitch approach.

Eh, that's a very narrow path to walk which I'm not sure is really possible. And, well, invading Canada is relatively trivial, and has a bunch of valuable resources. And if there's a period of lawlessness, well, see how well the Drug was stays contained to mexico.
 

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