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Zachowon

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So wouldn't you just be stationed at those units all the time? Otherwise the army would just be making you waste your time doing other stuff that isn't your job.
I do my job, in an ineffective way unless we are in combat.
 

Marduk

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Wow, just coming right out to say that; they hate student loan forgiveness because it hurts the 'military will pay for college' recruitment narrative.

And some hate student loan forgivness because it's colleges who should be forced to provide it, not taxpayers, including those who paid off theirs. There is a good argument for doing that too, especially popular in libertarian circles - if college graduates struggle with earning much money and can't pay off their college debt, some of the blame certainly is deserved by the college, and as such the forgiveness should come out of their pocket. Might motivate them to stop doing crazy leftist shit, while plain forgiveness just indirectly subsidizes it (after all bullshit indoctrination heavy courses are bigger offenders in creating graduates who struggle with paying debts than actually worthwhile courses).
 

Cherico

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Which is just another part of the corruption of the education cartels and and DoD; they use the massively inflated prices people pay for more and more worthless degrees to entice people to become tools for the Pentagon.

education does cost too much, but milatary service is not a bad thing the problem is we miss treat our veterans and the leadership has become corrupt and cultish. But serving for 4 years to pay for college while learning other skills is not a bad one.
 

Bacle

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education does cost too much, but milatary service is not a bad thing the problem is we miss treat our veterans and the leadership has become corrupt and cultish. But serving for 4 years to pay for college while learning other skills is not a bad one.
Worship of the US military and military service is a problem, a massive one.

There is a reason our Founders did not want a standing army, and the corruption/political bias we see now in the DoD is exactly what the Founders were afraid would happen with a standing army.

If people want to 'serve' and get the gov to pay off their loans, they are better off becoming firefighters or EMTs or such. Sure it takes 10 years for 'Public Service Debt Forgiveness' vs 4 years in the military, but it also doesn't require signing your soul away to the DoD.
 

Sailor.X

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Worship of the US military and military service is a problem, a massive one.

There is a reason our Founders did not want a standing army, and the corruption/political bias we see now in the DoD is exactly what the Founders were afraid would happen with a standing army.

If people want to 'serve' and get the gov to pay off their loans, they are better off becoming firefighters or EMTs or such. Sure it takes 10 years for 'Public Service Debt Forgiveness' vs 4 years in the military, but it also doesn't require signing your soul away to the DoD.
The Founders were proven wrong when the War of 1812 happened. We kind of stalemated in that one. And that is because Britain was also fighting in Europe at the time. The Founders in charge during that time realized that. Thus the change happened.
 

Bacle

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The Founders were proven wrong when the War of 1812 happened. We kind of stalemated in that one. And that is because Britain was also fighting in Europe at the time. The Founders in charge during that time realized that. Thus the change happened.
It does not change the fact their fears about how standing military's can become their own political branches, political parties, and effectively a 4th arm of the civie gov, have been shown to be justified.

I mean just look at what Milley and his cohort have done over the past few years, all the way back even before the Wu Flu.

I mean, shit, even Eisenhower warned the US public about the power and not-always-patriotic motives of the defense industry and their friends in the DoD.
 

Sailor.X

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It does not change the fact their fears about how standing military's can become their own political branches, political parties, and effectively a 4th arm of the civie gov, have been shown to be justified.

I mean just look at what Milley and his cohort have done over the past few years, all the way back even before the Wu Flu.

I mean, shit, even Eisenhower warned the US public about the power and not-always-patriotic motives of the defense industry and their friends in the DoD.
The DOD is small potatoes compared to the other Departments of the Executive branch in your day to day life. The FBI, The CIA the ATF, the IRS and all the other alphabet soup can and will screw you over way more easier than anything thing the DOD can do.
 

Bacle

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The DOD is small potatoes compared to the other Departments of the Executive branch in your day to day life. The FBI, The CIA the ATF, the IRS and all the other alphabet soup can and will screw you over way more easier than anything thing the DOD can do.
Yes, but they do not get the large scale worship the DoD gets.

Also, those agencies don't have a massive industrial complex backing them and making profit off them (except maybe the CDC, given what's known about the Wu Flu vaxs, SSRIs, and other meds that have been found to be worse than useless).
 

Bacle

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There is a reality that I think a lot of service members and their families do not want to face.

Veitnam was America's death knell, it just took 9/11 and the stolen 2020 election to prove it to the public.
 

Cherico

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There is a reality that I think a lot of service members and their families do not want to face.

Veitnam was America's death knell, it just took 9/11 and the stolen 2020 election to prove it to the public.

America had some pretty good years after vietnam.

the 80s and 90s were pretty good decades, 9/11 pretty much fucked us as a country, 2020....um I think will go down as the birth of the american populist movement, things are going to suck. This is the end of the republic but america isn't dead its just going to go through a really ugly time.
 

Bacle

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America had some pretty good years after vietnam.

the 80s and 90s were pretty good decades, 9/11 pretty much fucked us as a country, 2020....um I think will go down as the birth of the american populist movement, things are going to suck. This is the end of the republic but america isn't dead its just going to go through a really ugly time.
Iran Contra slip your mind?

The truth is, we have no singlar hope to handle this corruption; the best we can hope for is a political Ahsoka Tano to emerge and create a true center to rally around that is willing to hold the Deep State and DoD accountable for their misdeeds.
 

Cherico

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Iran Contra slip your mind?

The truth is, we have no singlar hope to handle this corruption; the best we can hope for is a political Ahsoka Tano to emerge and create a true center to rally around that is willing to hold the Deep State and DoD accountable for their misdeeds.

pretty good for the majority of americans, not corruption free.

the fact is the buracracy has gone mad with power and they are going to have to be reigned in, but thats going to be a decades long project so prepare for a very long suck.
 

Vyor

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Iran Contra slip your mind?

The truth is, we have no singlar hope to handle this corruption; the best we can hope for is a political Ahsoka Tano to emerge and create a true center to rally around that is willing to hold the Deep State and DoD accountable for their misdeeds.

Corruption has always and will always exist until Christ himself returns. Humans do that.
 

Zachowon

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DoD is the only useful government agency besides the forestry service
 

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