US Army Will Soon Have Female Tankers and Grunts

Zachowon

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The Military is also addressing how they do Physical training. It used to be Run, run, run for 5 days a week with some added pushups, situps and maybe pullups. Too much running destroys a soldier and I routinely had to send soldiers to sickcall because they were just broken.

Thankfully the Army seems to finally be addressing that.
It goes like this, monday Wednesday and Friday are run and leg days.
Tuesday and thursday are muscle failure.
Here in Kirea 5Thursday is Combat PT which is OCP and Gasmask stuff
 

Husky_Khan

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Hell to the fuck, NO! I have no problem with women serving in the Military, but my experiences with them in Combat support were...sobering to say the least. I've outlined those incidents in threads on SB and I can rehash them here as needed. But this is a bad idea thats going to get good men killed, or both.

You ever planning on reposting those stories here for the like farming? Or will it be too traumatizing for lack of a better term? :p
 

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You ever planning on reposting those stories here for the like farming? Or will it be too traumatizing for lack of a better term? :p

If people really want to know, then I can repost them. Not looking forward to it though.
 

Lanmandragon

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If they can do it, go for it BUT don't lower the fitness standards. If our ladies but to be as stong and as physically imposing at the boys, then they need to be conditioned as such.
The issue if course being that will not happen. Various feminists will reeee and the standards will be lowered. In a vacuum where the opposition is acting in goo faith. I agree with you but well that's not what's going down so yeah.
 

Zachowon

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If they can do it, go for it BUT don't lower the fitness standards. If our ladies but to be as stong and as physically imposing at the boys, then they need to be conditioned as such.
The issue if course being that will not happen. Various feminists will reeee and the standards will be lowered. In a vacuum where the opposition is acting in goo faith. I agree with you but well that's not what's going down so yeah.
Have you not seen the current ACFT the army is implementing? It is not like the old one where females get easier standards. it is now based on the Job, and each MOS has diffrent standard, from moderate, then significant, to heavy. Combat arms, like the one above are Heavy. To get that they must, deadlift at least 200Ilbs using a hexlift bar, do a standing power throw which is throwing a 10 lb medicine ball at least 8 feet. Do at least 30 hand release pushups (not easy if you arnt in shape), do the Sprint Drag carry in at least 2:10, do 5 leg tucks (Which most females can hardly do 1, and those that can do more then 1 are generally in very good shape), and a 2 mile in 18:00.

These are all the minimum they have to get, and I think they changed it somewhat since the info I am using.
 
Have you not seen the current ACFT the army is implementing? It is not like the old one where females get easier standards. it is now based on the Job, and each MOS has diffrent standard, from moderate, then significant, to heavy. Combat arms, like the one above are Heavy. To get that they must, deadlift at least 200Ilbs using a hexlift bar, do a standing power throw which is throwing a 10 lb medicine ball at least 8 feet. Do at least 30 hand release pushups (not easy if you arnt in shape), do the Sprint Drag carry in at least 2:10, do 5 leg tucks (Which most females can hardly do 1, and those that can do more then 1 are generally in very good shape), and a 2 mile in 18:00.

These are all the minimum they have to get, and I think they changed it somewhat since the info I am using.


nice glad to here it.
 

Zachowon

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nice glad to here it.
Hell, getting minimum isnt always the best ebt either as to get promotion points, gewtting the highest possible score is what one wants.

The ACFT is still being worked out, and the alternative for the Leg tucks is a 2 minute Plank. And for those that have done Planks, they know that is one way to freeze time.
 
Hell, getting minimum isnt always the best ebt either as to get promotion points, gewtting the highest possible score is what one wants.

The ACFT is still being worked out, and the alternative for the Leg tucks is a 2 minute Plank. And for those that have done Planks, they know that is one way to freeze time.


my main concern was our army trading good combatants for the sake of diversity, so long as that's not occurring, I'm good.
 

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my main concern was our army trading good combatants for the sake of diversity, so long as that's not occurring, I'm good.
If anything, I would bet women would have an advantage as a fighter pilot, being shorter and thus able to withstand higher G-forces on average.
 

PsihoKekec

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The problem is a weight to muscle mass ratio though, even with fly-by-wire system you still need considerable strength to operate the system under high-G burden, also spatial awerness.
 
Understand, I want to give them a fair shot, but I'm not hopeful. I went in expecting what I saw in SCI-FI and GI Jane. What I got were a bunch of entitled princesses who shirked their duty, routinely caused problems, failed basic physical fitness tests and a Chain of Command that continuously swept that shit under the rug. Don't get me wrong there were a lot of men who fell into that category too, but there wasn't anything stopping us from dealing with them and we often did. Maybe if we had been allowed to treat them to the same standard as the men I wouldn't be so jaded on the subject, but I don't see this as changing until people die.

Men who fucked up and couldn't or wouldn't do the job? Easy to deal with. But women? Nope. So understand that my experiences have left me very fucking biter on the subject. And I am not going to change my mind on it.

I'm of the Apocolypse mentalily when it comes to stuff like this. If you want to achieve a certain result on a sociatal level, then you essentially have to do the cultural equivalent of selective breeding. Keep the enviorment consistant and let the law of the jungle do the rest. these are big girls (quite litrally for some) they can put thier big girl breeches one foot in at a time just like the rest of us. Our problem is you have aristocrats running the country and not actual leaders.
 

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If you have the right to vote you also receive the duty to serve.

I would point out that a substantial portion of feminists have argued this in good faith from the start, only to be told by an all-male (at the time) Supreme Court that equal rights didn't apply to military service and that the military's assertion that women were categorically unfit for service was a sovereign declaration which could not be challenged on the basis of facts.

I absolutely support the idea that no one should be excluded from service by demographic category, but that the *functional* requirements to do the job should be encapsulated in the standards on a per-job basis.
 

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