LifeisTiresome
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Well I wasn't advocating for it. Just refuting that home schooling will save us.
This is pretty much all the Trans and Queer believe and what they are trying to program into kids.
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blank slate theory has been disproven time and time again banging your head against that wall is a mistake.
LifeisTiresome
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Leftists don't care. They still peddle this shit.
Sunk cost falicy really isn't taught to enough people.
Lanmandragon
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Why do you think they defend socialism? If blank slate we're true you could theoretically program folks enough. That it would actually work after a generation or two. It's not true at all of course hence 100 million deaths.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
...I hate to break it to you, but from what I've seen both anecdotally and in the limited studies done on such things, you've got it exactly backwards regarding social skills.
Some employers (Chik-Fil-A was particularly noted for this) have specifically sought out homeschooled young adults, because they were more likely to be respectful to people and socially capable. Funny, how not forcing children into low-supervision, high-social pressure containment structures for 6-7 hours a day for 13 years straight might make a difference in things like that. The particular crux of it is that homeschoolers interacted with adults who expected to be treated with respect, and got to choose who among their peers to interact with or not more often. They were not forced to spend time with people who treated them and others poorly.
Home school is not for everybody. But more often than not, it does better than public schools do; in many cases, if the public schools in the area weren't so terrible, the parents wouldn't have chosen home-schooling.
Also, while I'm sure there are some cases where homeschooling parents practice helicopter parenting, more often I've seen it that such parents are more likely to engage their children in interesting 'risky' activities like river canoeing, archery or rifle practice, camping, hiking, etc.
Lanmandragon
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Is that a "homeschool" thing though? I attended public school and did all those things. My kids are in a private school and we still do those things. So I'd argue that most homeschooler's are rural. With those activities being how rurals grow up. As opposed to being specifically home schooled.
I'm pointing to firsthand experience. Which is anecdotal, sure, but I certainly don't have anything "backwards" about my direct observations.
And yet in my experience, this is exactly why home schooled children have shitty real life skills. They literally don't know how to function in an environment that does not cater to them and allow them to dictate their own experiences.
Forcing children to spend time with people who are indifferent-to-antagonistic towards them is valuable real life experience.
All of the parents involved in the home schooling groups I was involved with (30+ families) had dysfuncitonally strong helicopter tendencies, yet also encouraged the outdoor activities you describe (and that despite being suburban rather than rural). The helicoptering involved parental micromanaging tendencies, not risk aversion.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
My point was that your experience with helicopter parenting is the fringe exception, not the rule. I was not trying to say your personal experiences weren't real.
My experience with homeschooling was that my parents didn't make even the vaguest effort to micro-manage my schooling. They set 'Get this work done each day.' They didn't care when I did it, just that I got it done. If I didn't get it done, they just started docking privileges until I started doing it. When I was in my tweens, my mother encouraged me to bike around town to go to stores, the library, the park, wherever by myself. When I was in my teens, and we lived in a bigger city, I rode the bus across town myself late into the night, getting back home after my parents were in bed sometimes. Their response when this started to become a thing, was to set my curfew later than it had been, and get me a cheap cell phone so emergency contact was more possible.
I've met a large number of homeschoolers who had similar experiences, and you would be the second account I've had of it going in the other direction. And again, some employers sought/seek out homeschooled employees specifically because they're more likely to be more mature and have better social skills.
The 'in-community of over-involved parents' is something you're more likely to see from a community with a particular private school they send all their children to, or in some areas even some private schools, though that's a bit less common.
Can vouch for that. I make a point to higher home schooled kids when I can. They're more worldly and far less leftist on average. Trade bros too.
...that last point is a sticking point since I do business with a lot of Cuban exiles and I'd lose business if I hired public school and college drones.
I prefer not hiring leftists either.
...that last point is a sticking point since I do business with a lot of Cuban exiles and I'd lose business if I hired public school and college drones.
I prefer not hiring leftists either.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Maybe a new thread should be made for this?
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
How much Cuban exile stories did you get from them?
A lot, one of the oldest guys claims he was tortured by Che, which I am inclined to believe. A lot the older ones were forced to watch their parents who were in their fifties back then shot.
One of the younger guys had to fly back to Cuba last year to dig up his dead dad and boil what was. Left of the meat off his bones and then shove them in a bag then dumped on a shelf.
Because they only allow your loved ones to be buried for a period of two years then they repossess the grave.
Between those stories and the shit the Montoneros and ERP did to my family my opinion of Marxist and Ddconstructivist thinking is that if you support it you are an enemy of whatever nation you reside in
It was an aside that I think we are all done with? Unless home schooling or spic exile stories are topics worth their own thread?
I think the biggest difference is, being home during the day homeschool kids see their parents climb the ladder of success, or see their hardships, they also gain a bigger understanding of just how hard it is to build a life for yourself or your family.
Same thing with vocational grads and trade bros, even if they're liberal. They're a lot more cognizant of how hard it is to actually create something and so are not suckers for that sob story bullshit the left likes to peddle. Which in turn makes it a lot harder for them to get groomed and made stupid by the system.
Also if you're a stay at home mom or dad and you're teaching your kids, the last thing you wanna do is hover over their asses
. You're thanking Jesus when they finally start going out and doing shit with their friends. Not just because of that but because it's natural to want to see your kids go out and start forming their own social circles and networks and applying what you've taught 'em.Helicopter parenting is usually a sign of neurosis IMHO...and you see that more in bougie upper middle class soccer moms from the 90's and the Gen Xers...than you do other groups.
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