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CarlManvers2019

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While I haven't watched The Joker movie yet(well I don't like superhero movies or Live-Action these days), it looks like there are people within the fandoms who actually believe to a degree what is being said about it

"Incel".....honestly at this point they're actually shitting on a people who are being blamed for every single one of their problems, if they even have any


Also, I swear, Trump was listed as a character or expy here weeks ago, but suddenly even his small entry's gone.....must have to do with him and the USA deciding to work with the rest of the world in their global counter-hacking effort
 

Captain X

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Osaul
I have to admit I'm curious how this supposed involvement with incels happened before the movie was even released. And considering the media is trying to scare people away from seeing this movie on its opening weekend, I actually suspect a kind of industrial sabotage at play here.
 

Vaermina

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I have to admit I'm curious how this supposed involvement with incels happened before the movie was even released. And considering the media is trying to scare people away from seeing this movie on its opening weekend, I actually suspect a kind of industrial sabotage at play here.
Todd Phillips tricked investors/producers to get his movie made...

“We didn’t make the movie to push buttons,” Phillips told TheWrap’s Sharon Waxman in an interview last Friday about the filmmaking process. “I literally described to Joaquin at one point in those three months as like, ‘Look at this as a way to sneak a real movie in the studio system under the guise of a comic book film’. It wasn’t, ‘We want to glorify this behavior.’ It was literally like ‘Let’s make a real movie with a real budget and we’ll call it f–ing Joker’. That’s what it was. “
That there is blow-back for this should surprise nobody.
 

JagerIV

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Yeah, the media push against this does make me a little suspicious: the general trend has seemed to be blind praise as the corporate shills so many of them are, so that running so hard with a negative campaign on this against a big budget corporate product seems suspect.

Is there anything coming out arround the same time that this movie might be competing with? A repeat of the Captain Marvel vs Battle Angel non-controversy?
 

CarlManvers2019

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Yeah, the media push against this does make me a little suspicious: the general trend has seemed to be blind praise as the corporate shills so many of them are, so that running so hard with a negative campaign on this against a big budget corporate product seems suspect.

Is there anything coming out arround the same time that this movie might be competing with? A repeat of the Captain Marvel vs Battle Angel non-controversy?


Speaking of Captain Marvel, it looks like TvTropes’ bias is showing even on it

I may not have watched the movie, but this YMMV page gives it too much praise that its suspicious given what we know of things like what happened with Rotten Tomatos
 

Terthna

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TvTropes started going downhill years ago; back around 2012, when Fast Eddie started getting egotistical about his status as owner of the site. Basically, he decided that the casual atmosphere TvTropes had operated with since the beginning was no longer good enough, and he wanted to turn it into something more professional. All tropes with references in their names were changed into something more generic, all expressions of personal opinion were banned, anything that could be considered even vaguely offensive was deleted, and anyone who expressed discontent with any of the changes he was making were immediately banned (myself included). If you're interested, here's a blog post from around that time which goes more in-depth about the changes that were made.

No diversity of opinion has been tolerated on TvTropes ever since, and it's honestly not surprising that SJWs have control over the site now. After a few years of totalitarian rule, Fast Eddie resigned in 2014; putting in charge a couple of cronies who has similar ideas on how the site should be run.
 
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CarlManvers2019

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Even when they surprisingly enough decide to go make whole pages dedicated to something written by a Conservative Author like Tom Kratman, they seem to miss stuff

Like by the looks of it, part of the backstory of this series involved the fact that plenty of the Muslim population was already there in-terms of fanaticism or how the former, secular or not-so-serious Muslims were getting overran.

The main page even included how one character was a "Take That!" to an ACTUAL Australian Muslim Cleric who compared unveiled women to meat and men to cats and blaming the women for the "cats" attacking

The Muslim Brotherhood maybe denounced by Muslims in both West and their home areas IRL, but it wasn't just fucking terrorism the I(mperial)SA was afraid of in that book(which I am admittedly sorta skimming)but the sheer regression, oppression and repression that occurred like making Sharia Law a thing, that resulted in the rapists of one characters' daughter getting only some lashings and the likelihood that they would come for her again "out of principle" to finish the job
 

*THASF*

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TvTropes started going downhill years ago; back around 2012, when Fast Eddie started getting egotistical about his status as owner of the site. Basically, he decided that the casual atmosphere TvTropes had operated with since the beginning was no longer good enough, and he wanted to turn it into something more professional. All tropes with references in their names were changed into something more generic, all expressions of personal opinion were banned, anything that could be considered even vaguely offensive was deleted, and anyone who expressed discontent with any of the changes he was making were immediately banned (myself included). If you're interested, here's a blog post from around that time which goes more in-depth about the changes that were made.

No diversity of opinion has been tolerated on TvTropes ever since, and it's honestly not surprising that SJWs have control over the site now. After a few years of totalitarian rule, Fast Eddie resigned in 2014; putting in charge a couple of cronies who has similar ideas on how the site should be run.

Fast Eddie was a cowardly cunt. He caved to pressure from advertisers to try and make TvTropes more family-friendly, and then they took an axe and bowdlerized the fuck out of the whole site. I probably couldn’t even make a tropes page for the fic I’m writing right now (I’m not fond of dissecting my own story like that, but hey, a tropes page can help a fic draw hits; it’s almost like an advertisement). They’d probably whine “Terrible porn! P5 cut time!”

They caved to advertisers. They caved to the Tumblr whiners. Is it any wonder that TvTropes is a piece of shit, now?
 

CarlManvers2019

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They wanted to "grow up" and be taken "seriously" by outsiders

I think this is something that’s been infecting fandoms, or at least those frequently online or those who gather in groups, they may not necessarily present the majority opinion but they hold some sway and simply put they want to be accepted

There’s too much shame in what they love, there’s too much shame attached to the images others have attached to them

And frankly I can sort of blame it on the original creators for having to a degree that shame as well

When they say that X Has Always Been About Social Justice, there IS some truth to that, because Hollywood and many creators of entertainment are Liberals/Leftists who attach “Conservative” with being Fascists or Nazi’s or a bunch of other stereotypes

Not knowing even about Libertarianism being a thing people believe in and aren’t such hypocrites

Hell the guy who made Aristillus had it have a racially diverse cast for the protagonists and had female characters who were strong and smart people
 

Terthna

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Forgive my temerity in resurrecting this thread, but I just came across an article on TvTropes that made me think about it again:
HBomb grew into prominence after a series of videos mocking the strained development of The Sarkeesian Effect, the infamously bad documentary made by Youtube reactionaries. During the early days of his success, Hbomb was one of the few big, truly leftist channels at a time where right-wingers and reactionaries ruled the platform. Since then he has helped carve out a space for other leftist Youtubers to grow and take prominence, like ContraPoints, Philosophy Tube, Shaun, and Sarah Z.

I mean seriously; either the person who wrote this is H.Bomberguy himself (which is not out of the question, considering how self-centered and egotistical he is), or a fan/fans who are trying very hard to paint him as some sort of leftist Youtuber messiah. There isn't even an attempt to pretend that there isn't some heavily left-leaning political bias here.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I think TvTropes’ YMMV pages aren’t exactly so monitored, seriously it admitted that Mexicans liked the movie and They said that the crime in Mexico was real
 

Cherico

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I think TvTropes’ YMMV pages aren’t exactly so monitored, seriously it admitted that Mexicans liked the movie and They said that the crime in Mexico was real

I've talked with Mexicans from mexico they hate human trafficers a lot more then we do.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I've talked with Mexicans from mexico they hate human trafficers a lot more then we do.

I guess they don’t like seeing their country whitewashed because some white liberal losers can’t wrap their heads around a country full of “brown people” actually having reasons other than just poverty to leave.....cartels must be a near-myth to them
 

CarlManvers2019

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Of course they do. For most of us it's an abstract if digustsing and infurasting thing. To alot of them though? It's thier neice Maria or thier cousin lupita etc.

But the bad guy to South Americans’ always supposed to be the white dudes who won’t just let them in en masse
 

Lanmandragon

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But the bad guy to South Americans’ always supposed to be the white dudes who won’t just let them in en masse
Poor people do not care about wokeness at all. They vote left because of economics and culture not wokeness. Wokeness or bongos are overwhelmingly rich white suburbanites. I mean hell man do you know what your average Mexicanman would say to a feminist? He'd laugh at her and tell her to get back into the kitchen. Then slap her if she continued disobeying. Alot of bad things can be said about Latin America. An abundance of wokeness isn't among them.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Poor people do not care about wokeness at all. They vote left because of economics and culture not wokeness. Wokeness or bongos are overwhelmingly rich white suburbanites. I mean hell man do you know what your average Mexicanman would say to a feminist? He'd laugh at her and tell her to get back into the kitchen. Then slap her if she continued disobeying. Alot of bad things can be said about Latin America. An abundance of wokeness isn't among them.

So wait, they don't massively resent the USA or white people for not letting them in and maybe somehow being responsible for their sufferings due to the CIA once doing something to a Communist power?
 

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