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Shock: Trump a ‘severe underdog’ in Iowa caucuses

In the latest sign that some Republicans are eager for fresh faces in the 2024 presidential primaries, Iowa voters have done an about-face, making Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis their No. 1 pick.
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Looks like DeSantis is gaining ground in Iowa.

I do think if he chooses to run, he can beat Trump in the Primaries and easily beat Joe Biden.

To the Trump loyalists: this isn't a psyop. We just like DeSantis better.

I personally will rally behind the winner of the Primaries, but still hoping DeSantis runs and wins.
 
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Trump appearently is now willing to take advice from fucking Nick Fuentes, after Kanye introduced the two at the dinner he had at Mar-a-Lago.
 
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Bacle said:
Trump appearently is now willing to take advice from fucking Nick Fuentes, after Kanye introduced the two at the dinner he had at Mar-a-Lago.
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Fuentes is still scum, but I'm not even gonna hate too much on Trump for not realizing. When Kanye brings a guy to your mansion for your private dinner, it generally isn't necessary to ask "Oh, is this guy a white nationalist?" Though asking if the guy is loco is a reasonable question. Yes, Trump or an advisor should have known and Trump should have asked Kanye not to bring him, but thats two volatile personalities.

Still, it's just more poor messaging on Trumps part.
 
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Abhorsen said:
Fuentes is still scum, but I'm not even gonna hate too much on Trump for not realizing. When Kanye brings a guy to your mansion for your private dinner, it generally isn't necessary to ask "Oh, is this guy a white nationalist?" Though asking if the guy is loco is a reasonable question. Yes, Trump or an advisor should have known and Trump should have asked Kanye not to bring him, but thats two volatile personalities.

Still, it's just more poor messaging on Trumps part.
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Fair.

I just would have figured someone from Trump's staff would have clued him in on who Fuentes was a while back, like pre-2020, due to his unsettlingly influence on some parts of the Right.

Kanye knowing who Fuentes is was a shock, in and of itself; him bringing Fuentes to meet Trump at Mar-a-Lago is a move I never expected out of Kanye, and I am worried Kanye is...making things worse for Trump and himself by doing this.
 
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The Kanye visit with Milo and the Knife guy has got to be one of the strangest matchups.
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I do not think Milo was involved in this; it was fucking Nick Fuentes who Kanye brought with him.

If he had brought Milo, it's be a much different situation.
 
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Seems Nick Fuentes was tweeting using Kanye's account at some point.

How Kanye ended up taking advice from Yannopolis and Fuentes, or letting them use his twitter, is beyond me.
 
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I think that this is probably Milo’s attempt to take down Trump. Kanye is a bit mentally unstable and could perhaps be manipulated into doing the right (or wrong) things to discredit Trump. Milo has always been more of an establishment guy, even though he has often tried to sell himself as a hard core right winger.

It’s just my hunch, but I think that Nick Fuentes is controlled opposition by the left. He was like 20 years old when he’s suddenly at the head of this influential “far right” pseudo white nationalist group, when typically people with those kind of views get crushed by the establishment. Why is Fuentes so connected and influential at such a young age? I don’t know, it’s not proof, but I suspect that he works for the establish left or at least gets covert help from them. If that’s true, him meeting with Trump and painting Trump with guilt by association makes sense.

Though, honestly, Trump shouldn’t have to apologize or even get flak for meeting with people with far right views when left wing candidates fully embrace the most extreme elements in their side of the aisle.
 
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ShieldWife said:
I think that this is probably Milo’s attempt to take down Trump. Kanye is a bit mentally unstable and could perhaps be manipulated into doing the right (or wrong) things to discredit Trump. Milo has always been more of an establishment guy, even though he has often tried to sell himself as a hard core right winger.

It’s just my hunch, but I think that Nick Fuentes is controlled opposition by the left. He was like 20 years old when he’s suddenly at the head of this influential “far right” pseudo white nationalist group, when typically people with those kind of views get crushed by the establishment. Why is Fuentes so connected and influential at such a young age? I don’t know, it’s not proof, but I suspect that he works for the establish left or at least gets covert help from them. If that’s true, him meeting with Trump and painting Trump with guilt by association makes sense.

Though, honestly, Trump shouldn’t have to apologize or even get flack for meeting with people with far right views when left wing candidates fully embrace the most extreme elements in their side of the aisle.
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But far right is worse then far left in the eyes of the left
 
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