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[Battlegrinder]

Except, you know, Biden has already decided to run, so it will be Biden vs Trump 2.0.

That seems to have slipped Styx's news feed, it seems.

Short of Biden dropping dead, he's the Dem candidate for 2024.

Biden has claimed he's going to run, yes. That in no way means he's actually going to, or that if he does run, that he'll make through the primaries.

DeSantis holds to his "florida 1st, POTUS in 2028"

DeSantis never said anything of the sort.

the Uniparty

This is why I don't take claims about "the uniparty" seriously, given that the people using it don't seem to understand it. In the context of Trump getting sabotaged and prevented from winning the republican primary, that would be due entirely to the actions of the republican party and the republican party alone. They control thier own primaries, it's not a joint thing between them and the dems where "the uniparty" could sabotage them.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

If DeSantis holds to his "florida 1st, POTUS in 2028" then Trump has this on the bag and the only way the Uniparty can stop that is by pulling a Bernie, which is unlikely because even at his strongest Bernie wasn't that close to being the Household name Trump is.

You’d also have a bastard of a time trying to do that in the GOP. Far too many Trump sympathisers, if not outright supporters, are dispersed throughout it by this point, and the Republican Party simply is nowhere near as corrupt as the Democrats.

The Neocons are a dying breed whether they like it or not.

 

[Terthna]

Your reluctance to name anyone certainly isn't convincing me otherwise, particularly when you also say it's supposedly so obvious that my rejection of the premise represents willful ignorance. If I said that, say, Joe Biden had violated his oath of office and should be impeached, off the top of my head I can think of at least 2 guys who are well respected, published writers that I could cite to back that up (Andy McCarthy and Dan McLaughlin), and I'd say that "Biden should be impeached" is at least in the same ballpark.

That's because you tend to think in terms of people and not ideas. You're actually very authoritarian; you just want there to be authorities you can trust to have your best interests in mind. Which is why you're so against the concept of the uniparty; you desperately want to believe that there's an "us" in positions of power that you can support.

 

[Bacle]

That's because you tend to think in terms of people and not ideas. You're actually very authoritarian; you just want there to be authorities you can trust to have your best interests in mind. Which is why you're so against the concept of the uniparty; you desperately want to believe that there's an "us" in positions of power that you can support.

The illusions of the past are still lingering on in those who want to pretend the emperor isn't naked.

The US as a nation is existing on sheer cultural inertia, and not much else.

Edit: The NFL and George Lucas have to do with the cultural inertia of the modern US than most of the GOP, while the Dems are split between cynical revolutionaries, who have learned how to disguise class/racial vengeance and blood feuds as 'equity', and corporate lackey doing their best to use DC to achieve market or regulatory capture of their industries.

We are a banana republic with nukes, our elections are less secure and transparent than fucking Brazil, and things are very much likely to keep changing in ways the majority of the right, and sane people, would define as 'worse' for the foreseeable future, barring political/cultural/social black swan events reversing trends that are only accelerating.

The Greatest Gen is likely to have the greatest increase in standard of living and tech in humanity existence, the Boomers will have lived through most of the 'best' times, and the Gen X/Centennials will have grown up in the tail end of that pre-9/11 age.

We Gen X/Centennials are the last to know what the 'golden age' really looked like, and those born after us, the Millennials and Zoomers...the do not truly understand what was lost, and will suffer for foolish decisions, some made before the younger ones were even born.

 

[Abhorsen]

This is why I don't take claims about "the uniparty" seriously, given that the people using it don't seem to understand it. In the context of Trump getting sabotaged and prevented from winning the republican primary, that would be due entirely to the actions of the republican party and the republican party alone. They control thier own primaries, it's not a joint thing between them and the dems where "the uniparty" could sabotage them.

Generally, I believe people talking about a Uniparty when they are describing how 'Pubs and 'Crats act the same in power. But the two parties do not act in concert, they both want power for themselves because they want power. They think the competition between the two is very real.


Now as far as the populace of the republicans are concerned, I'd say there about 10 republicans in congress who actually have standards they believe in (an estimate based on there being about two senators that aren't part of conservative inc (Mike Lee and Rand Paul)).


Also, I think the republicans could learn a lot about how to win elections from a place of non-power from the various civil rights movements, who were successful despite people trying to stomp down on them. Their tactics (civil disobedience, community organizing, get out the vote orgs, etc.) are very successful.

It's no accident that the most successful organizer you guys have is gay, IMO.

 

[Bacle]

Generally, I believe people talking about a Uniparty when they are describing how 'Pubs and 'Crats act the same in power. But the two parties do not act in concert, they both want power for themselves because they want power. They think the competition between the two is very real.


Now as far as the populace of the republicans are concerned, I'd say there about 10 republicans in congress who actually have standards they believe in (an estimate based on there being about two senators that aren't part of conservative inc (Mike Lee and Rand Paul)).


Also, I think the republicans could learn a lot about how to win elections from a place of non-power from the various civil rights movements, who were successful despite people trying to stomp down on them. Their tactics (civil disobedience, community organizing, get out the vote orgs, etc.) are very successful.

I have been saying this for a long time; the Right needs to look to MLK for inspiration on their modern political issues, not George Washington.

Yet most of the GOP does not seem to understand what that means in terms of changing tactics, or in more regrettable instances, just say MLK was a commie and dismiss any lessons he taught America.

 

[Terthna]

Generally, I believe people talking about a Uniparty when they are describing how 'Pubs and 'Crats act the same in power. But the two parties do not act in concert, they both want power for themselves because they want power. They think the competition between the two is very real.

They may compete with each other for power, but that's not for our benefit; it's for theirs. It's like two pickpockets arguing over territory; whoever wins is still going to steal your wallet.

 

[Jormungandr]

I concede on that front but we've got to come up with a better strategy than "muh voting" as that's not working.

Agreed.

People that still believe voting will work are under the delusion that the "old" political status quo still exists. It doesn't.

The Democrats and Left smashed it, shat on the remains, and chucked it at your collective faces while gloating about it and how they got away with it.

They will lie, cheat, steal, brainwash, break the law and have everything from government agencies to grassroots groups (even ones who should be classed as domestic terrorists by their own standards, mind) to cover for them.

So, your choices are to roll over and still be deluded in believing that your vote counts in a broken system, or... what? Fight? Is there any other choice now?

 

[Cherico]

Agreed.

People that still believe voting will work are under the delusion that the "old" political status quo still exists. It doesn't.

The Democrats and Left smashed it, shat on the remains, and chucked it at your collective faces while gloating about it and how they got away with it.

They will lie, cheat, steal, brainwash, break the law and have everything from government agencies to grassroots groups (even ones who should be classed as domestic terrorists by their own standards, mind) to cover for them.

So, your choices are to roll over and still be deluded in believing that your vote counts in a broken system, or... what? Fight? Is there any other choice now?

I think were in for a really rough time, buddy but our grandchildren will have great lives.

 

[DarthOne]

I think were in for a really rough time, buddy but our grandchildren will have great lives.

I’m hoping it won’t last for quite that long. But that decision isn’t in my hands.

 

[Abhorsen]

They may compete with each other for power, but that's not for our benefit; it's for theirs. It's like two pickpockets arguing over territory; whoever wins is still going to steal your wallet.

There's a definite benefit to them fighting: It means they are focused on fighting, not fucking us around.

Agreed.

People that still believe voting will work are under the delusion that the "old" political status quo still exists. It doesn't.

You need to not just go to the polls, but community organize, ballot harvest, etc. Scott Pressler is already doing this shit. If you support the republicans, you need to get on this. Voting does work, the dems are just better than organizing than you guys cause all of the various subgroups had to get real good at organizing or lose. People have been in a ton worse positions than conservatives now and come out the victors, but it takes time.

Also, violence is stupid and self defeating. It's exactly what the feds want.

 

[Jormungandr]

There's a definite benefit to them fighting: It means they are focused on fighting, not fucking us around.

You need to not just go to the polls, but community organize, ballot harvest, etc. Scott Pressler is already doing this shit. If you support the republicans, you need to get on this. Voting does work, the dems are just better than organizing than you guys cause all of the various subgroups had to get real good at organizing or lose. People have been in a ton worse positions than conservatives now and come out the victors, but it takes time.

Also, violence is stupid and self defeating. It's exactly what the feds want.

Violence would be playing into their hands, yeah, but what are the alternatives? Plus, they themselves are not above violence -- you can't take the high road if they're actively trying to destroy said high road and you.

The very system you're arguing for --organizing communities, ballots, et cetera-- all ultimately lead to the same thing: voting for non-Democrats.

But the voting system is broken because of the Democrats. They will lie, cheat, and steal to stop anyone who aren't them winning. We've seen this repeatedly. You're still stuck in the old paradigm of thinking which no longer applies.

In the meantime, they're actively brainwashing your children into being their next crop of drones, while also doing everything they can do destroy you and your livelihoods because they're goddamn ideological zealots.

So, all those community organizations? The ballots? Pretty much meaningless because they won't work. Again, old paradigm.

The Democrats won't allow them to work.

I'm not even American and even I can see how much of a shitshow America's politics have become.

 

[Abhorsen]

Violence would be playing into their hands, yeah, but what are the alternatives? Plus, they themselves are not above violence -- you can't take the high road if they're actively trying to destroy said high road and you.

The very system you're arguing for --organizing communities, ballots, et cetera-- all ultimately lead to the same thing: voting for non-Democrats.

But the voting system is broken because of the Democrats. They will lie, cheat, and steal to stop anyone who aren't them winning. We've seen this repeatedly. You're still stuck in the old paradigm of thinking which no longer applies.

Voting, mass organized civil disobedience, and lawsuits worked against much worse oppression. The idea that it wouldn't work here is just not looking at history.

In the meantime, they're actively brainwashing your children into being their next crop of drones, while also doing everything they can do destroy you and your livelihoods because they're goddamn ideological zealots.

First, they've been doing this for decades, you are just now noticing it. Second, people are already successfully fighting this. Homeschooling and school choice skyrocketed during the pandemic. Public school attendence is down by about 25% in NH over a few years, IIRC. The stop woke acts in states also limit the brainwashing for the kids left over. Furthermore, they have to grab kids cause they aren't having any of their own.

So, all those community organizations? The ballots? Pretty much meaningless because they won't work. Again, old paradigm.

The Democrats won't allow them to work.

I'm not even American and even I can see how much of a shitshow America's politics have become.

No, they are better at cheating then you. So do what they do. Ballot harvest like mad. And the dems 'not allowing them to work' is also dumb. They spend tons more money on political ads than the 'Pubs, they wouldn't do that if it didn't matter. They wouldn't have lost Florida if it was always possible to cheat to success. And I can go on. Just present good candidates with a message, something the Republicans just completely failed at this year.

It isn't old paradigm: the Republicans never even tried the 'old paradigm' of community organizing. They are generations behind in effective tech for generating votes. I'm telling them if they want to win, they got to at least start using tech from the 60s, instead of just saying 'vote, it's your civic duty'. It's sheer incompetence. Trump accidentlied into some 2000s level tech with his free media and memedom, and slaughtered. Just do better.

 

[Bigking321]

So do what they do. Ballot harvest like mad.

This wouldn't work. The rules are enforced against the right. There would be arrests and show trials wherever they could swing it. Ever news organization would say "see! It was all projection. Republicans are the ones really committing election crimes!"

Just compare the BLM "peaceful" protests with the fbi Infiltrated Jan 6th insurrection.

 

[Spartan303]

This wouldn't work. The rules are enforced against the right. There would be arrests and show trials wherever they could swing it. Ever news organization would say "see! It was all projection. Republicans are the ones really committing election crimes!"

Just compare the BLM "peaceful" protests with the fbi Infiltrated Jan 6th insurrection.

Except Ballot harvesting is what got the GOP control of the House, largely thanks to that in California by the Republicans there. Ballot Harvesting is...apparently not illegal in certain areas. And those are areas the Democrats control. So do their strategy and combine that with getting the votes and finally ensuring that Republicans are there to ensure an honest count and we'll have this.

 

[Cherico]

Except Ballot harvesting is what got the GOP control of the House, largely thanks to that in California by the Republicans there. Ballot Harvesting is...apparently not illegal in certain areas. And those are areas the Democrats control. So do their strategy and combine that with getting the votes and finally ensuring that Republicans are there to ensure an honest count and we'll have this.

Some times you have to adapt

 

[Spartan303]

Some times you have to adapt

Yes. And this is one way to do it.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Generally, I believe people talking about a Uniparty when they are describing how 'Pubs and 'Crats act the same in power. But the two parties do not act in concert, they both want power for themselves because they want power. They think the competition between the two is very real.

No, but many of the party bosses attend the same events, are members of the same social club and in the case of the Bush and Obama's weird non traditional family (If you believe Judge Joe Brown anyway.) are related and ran several generations of global psyops together. They all seem to suck Klause Schwabs dick, they all go to the same weirdass parties at places like Bohemian Grove and all seem to really, really, reeaalllyyy want a world where Governments restricted by constitutions can circumvent them by entering in an unholy public-private partnerships. And they all hang out with the same Chinese backed banks and drug lords.

the Uniparty doesn't mean the elephant lets the donkey peg him (Though if rumors about Kevin McCarthy are true...), it means individuals in the party leadership want the same thing and work together.

And that much is very true.

 

[Duke Nukem]

He's back

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

 

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