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[Terthna]

Rand Paul did. He's been the major person going after Fauci. But yes, I do agree that the vast majority of Republicans do nothing their base want.

If only Republicans like him and DeSantis were the norm, and not the exception.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Okay; how about the Republicans' utter refusal to oppose the Democrats with the two years they had in the early half of Trump's presidency, when they controlled both the House, and the Senate? Trump had to drag them kicking and screaming to get them to do anything.

Biden barely got congress to do anything during his first two years too, I bet the democrats are the real controlled opposition and the republicans secretly

Considering that I'm absolutely certain you see anyone who holds that position a "conspiracy obsessed crank", and would just use it as an opportunity to accuse them of being such; I don't see the point.

Your reluctance to name anyone certainly isn't convincing me otherwise, particularly when you also say it's supposedly so obvious that my rejection of the premise represents willful ignorance. If I said that, say, Joe Biden had violated his oath of office and should be impeached, off the top of my head I can think of at least 2 guys who are well respected, published writers that I could cite to back that up (Andy McCarthy and Dan McLaughlin), and I'd say that "Biden should be impeached" is at least in the same ballpark.

 

[Rocinante]

and that's fair. Look I don't exactly trust DeSantis friends but I can also admit that trump has done said and done some things that are...offbase, but this infighting is going to get us nowhere. We need a beacon/leader to rally behind and we need to take up the responsibility of keeping him to the task.

I hate to admit it but we are at war, and our opposition has made it clear that they are willing to drive society off a cliff if it means their team winning. At some point, we have to fight back. As much as it pains me, if we want a fair fight we have to learn thier game and counter thier tactics. Unless we want things to devolve into physical war.

I agree with you. And we have a process to choose that leader, via the Primaries.

We might have to do some in fighting and work out some differences in the meantime, but once the Primaries produce a leader, we rally behind them.

Let's just hope the Primaries produce someone worth being a leader.

Personally I prefer DeSantis or Rand Paul, if it comes down to it I'll rally behind Trump if he doesnt keep up this execution for drug dealers stuff.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Start doing actual get out the vote organizing, and even more important, community organizing. The job is more than show up once every two years. Scott Pressler is the only one on the republican side actually seeming to do this, and his extensive work in Florida and NY points out the value of it. It requires a ton of individuals just going around talking to people about issues they care about, and getting them to sign up to vote.

Grassroots at its finest.

And it bloody well works what's more.

 

[DarthOne]

Grassroots at its finest.

And it bloody well works what's more.

Yeah until the elections get fortified again when some judge overturns the ‘no mail in ballots’ ruling or whatever a day before the election. Like what just happened here in PA. Not that Oz and company were the best candidates out there, but it sure didn’t help their chances.

 

[Abhorsen]

Grassroots at its finest.

And it bloody well works what's more.

Exactly. And these are things you can just go do. Literally just DM/@ him on twitter if you need help, he's incredibly responsive (though he's getting over a severe illness right now so maybe less so right now, dude had to go to the polling station using a cane despite being in his 20s).

Get motivated and fix stuff yourself.

 

[DarthOne]

Respectfully, I think we have a lot farther to go before it even gets THAT bad. I like to think, or at least hope (yes, I know, hope is not a battle plan), we'll head either scenario off beforehand. It's a little early and far too pessimistic to say it's the fall of Roman civilization.

With respect, given how bad the economy is going to get, just how little elections in the US and other Western countries can be trusted, and how hard out Would-Be-Overlords at the WEF are pushing their Great Reset and climate change BS (hint;YOUR the carbon they want to reduce. Or do you think the clot-shot wasn’t intentional?) we might not have very long.

Now by all means I don’t want it to get that bad, but it’s not up to me.

 

[Arch Dornan]

I repeat my statement: accelerate, collapse this sham of a system already.

With fools like these ones in charge they're already accelerating.

 

[Bigking321]

I mean... the destruction of society and civilization is the point. New world order and all that evil bullshit.

They pretty much gave speeches about it at the g20.

 

[Arch Dornan]

I mean... the destruction of society and civilization is the point. New world order and all that evil bullshit.

They pretty much gave speeches about it at the g20.

Including world war 3?

 

[WolfBear]

Rand Paul did. He's been the major person going after Fauci. But yes, I do agree that the vast majority of Republicans do nothing their base want.


Start doing actual get out the vote organizing, and even more important, community organizing. The job is more than show up once every two years. Scott Pressler is the only one on the republican side actually seeming to do this, and his extensive work in Florida and NY points out the value of it. It requires a ton of individuals just going around talking to people about issues they care about, and getting them to sign up to vote.

If Republicans were doing what the base wanted them to do, then they would be passing the RAISE Act, changing Civil Rights Laws in order to reduce the potential for Wokeness and liberal abuses, et cetera. Republicans did nominate good (from their own perspective, of course) SCOTUS nominees in recent years, of course.

 

[strunkenwhite]

I just want a strong military.

Oh, we all know you do, believe me. It's your polestar.

 

[Typhonis]

I mean... the destruction of society and civilization is the point. New world order and all that evil bullshit.

They pretty much gave speeches about it at the g20.

Normal is not going to return Jesus is. They are all setting the stage for the Beast and the Antichrist.

 

[Zachowon]

Oh, we all know you do, believe me. It's your polestar.

It's basically my personality

 

[DarthOne]

TRUMP 2024




Our friend Styx weighs in on Trump's intention to run for President in 2024. And talks about some rather pertinent points to our discussion here. These are just some highlights.

• Republican primaries are likely to be artificially messy because the UniParty is clearly scrambling to find someone to knock him on his ass. And if they don't stop Trump in the primaries, be assured that there will be shenanigans by people like Mitch McConnell in 2024 to try to deny Trump the presidency. They will tailor favors with the Democratic party leadership and they'll get an agreement going where a bunch of Republicans are allowed to win, as long as Trump is not. So they'll pull funding they'll do shenanigans at the state level to try to deny him proxy campaigning and stuff.
  
  
• Once the primaries are over, Styx thinks that some states are likely to suspend their primaries altogether and simply give Trump the delegates due to his quasi-incumbency. He was a president of the United States; that's the closest thing to an incumbent advantage that the Republicans are going to get. Albeit with a Grover Cleveland-esq Gap. It will be very
  interesting to see them justify their attacks on the First Amendment and the right of people to be represented by the
  politician of their choice now.
  
  
• As for Trump's announcement Speech, Styx liked it. The 'Big kicker' is how Trump drew a contrast between his style of speech and Biden's. This is why Trump was calmer than what we saw at times in 2016. Which Styx thinks is exactly the sort of energy Trump will need going forward if he has any chance to overcome the Uniparty. He simply has to look more collected, "with it" and more withdrawn at times than Biden. People will be able to see the contrast for themselves. Trump's speech was effectively shining a spotlight on the Biden Administration to contrast how things are now to where they were for the first three years of Trump's presidency.
  
  
  
• Regarding any voting shenanigans, Styx doesn't think they'll be much of an issue as much of the states have fixed the election 'fortification' issues.
  
  
  
• Styx is all in for Trump 2024. He'd rather nominate Donald Trump and "have him God damn get gobsmacked and lose in a miraculous wipeout" and "watch voting shenanigans happen in real time" than support any other Republican candidate if there's any sign of shenanigans within the GOP primaries. He says he won't support Mitch McConnell and the others; Pompeo, Liz Cheney etc.
  Styx reminds us that he's not a Republican and voted for Trump because he believed he was the more qualified candidate. He thinks that will still be the case going into 2024. Also, the Dems will have their own primaries as Biden will be in no position to run and the likely Democrat candidates will be of Biden's caliber or worse. He doesn't think Desantis will be a factor for 2024.

 

[Typhonis]

The problem is....we have all of these really old people running for a high stress job which is the Presidency. Obama looked to have aged while he was president. I'm sure that Biden is not doing well as well. Especially if they have to keep doping him up so he can function in public.

The dems are expecting trump, they have mechanisms in place to help them to win. The parties are undergoing a political realignment and the Dems are losing the Latino vote. So what can we do to subvert expectations and win in 2024?

 

[Bacle]

TRUMP 2024




Our friend Styx weighs in on Trump's intention to run for President in 2024. And talks about some rather pertinent points to our discussion here. These are just some highlights.

• Republican primaries are likely to be artificially messy because the UniParty is clearly scrambling to find someone to knock him on his ass. And if they don't stop Trump in the primaries, be assured that there will be shenanigans by people like Mitch McConnell in 2024 to try to deny Trump the presidency. They will tailor favors with the Democratic party leadership and they'll get an agreement going where a bunch of Republicans are allowed to win, as long as Trump is not. So they'll pull funding they'll do shenanigans at the state level to try to deny him proxy campaigning and stuff.
  
  
• Once the primaries are over, Styx thinks that some states are likely to suspend their primaries altogether and simply give Trump the delegates due to his quasi-incumbency. He was a president of the United States; that's the closest thing to an incumbent advantage that the Republicans are going to get. Albeit with a Grover Cleveland-esq Gap. It will be very
  interesting to see them justify their attacks on the First Amendment and the right of people to be represented by the
  politician of their choice now.
  
  
• As for Trump's announcement Speech, Styx liked it. The 'Big kicker' is how Trump drew a contrast between his style of speech and Biden's. This is why Trump was calmer than what we saw at times in 2016. Which Styx thinks is exactly the sort of energy Trump will need going forward if he has any chance to overcome the Uniparty. He simply has to look more collected, "with it" and more withdrawn at times than Biden. People will be able to see the contrast for themselves. Trump's speech was effectively shining a spotlight on the Biden Administration to contrast how things are now to where they were for the first three years of Trump's presidency.
  
  
  
• Regarding any voting shenanigans, Styx doesn't think they'll be much of an issue as much of the states have fixed the election 'fortification' issues.
  
  
  
• Styx is all in for Trump 2024. He'd rather nominate Donald Trump and "have him God damn get gobsmacked and lose in a miraculous wipeout" and "watch voting shenanigans happen in real time" than support any other Republican candidate if there's any sign of shenanigans within the GOP primaries. He says he won't support Mitch McConnell and the others; Pompeo, Liz Cheney etc.
  Styx reminds us that he's not a Republican and voted for Trump because he believed he was the more qualified candidate. He thinks that will still be the case going into 2024. Also, the Dems will have their own primaries as Biden will be in no position to run and the likely Democrat candidates will be of Biden's caliber or worse. He doesn't think Desantis will be a factor for 2024.

Except, you know, Biden has already decided to run, so it will be Biden vs Trump 2.0.

That seems to have slipped Styx's news feed, it seems.

Short of Biden dropping dead, he's the Dem candidate for 2024.

 

[DarthOne]

Except, you know, Biden has already decided to run, so it will be Biden vs Trump 2.0.

That seems to have slipped Styx's news feed, it seems.

Short of Biden dropping dead, he's the Dem candidate for 2024.

You assume that his puppet masters don't change their minds between now and then. Or that Biden doesn't, in fact, drop dead or have something else happen to him first.

 

[Bacle]

You assume that his puppet masters don't change their minds between now and then. Or that Biden doesn't, in fact, drop dead or have something else happen to him first.

Both of those are bigger assumptions than that Biden will be running in 2024, and if Styx or others are operating off those larger assumptions (that Biden won't be the Dem candidate in 2024), they are operating in lala-land as far as political reality goes.

 

[Sobek]

Here is the thing though: the only GOP people who can possibly challenge Trump are DeSantis and MAYBE Ron Paul and Paul Gosar. DeSantis is the only huge household name while the Pauls are more niche.

If DeSantis holds to his "florida 1st, POTUS in 2028" then Trump has this on the bag and the only way the Uniparty can stop that is by pulling a Bernie, which is unlikely because even at his strongest Bernie wasn't that close to being the Household name Trump is.