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Terthna

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Are you actively ignorant of this? The Maricopa Count audit's initial results came back, and made it 100% clear that various forms of funny business showed that in that county alone more than enough votes had been mucked with to wipe out Biden's margin of victory, and on top of that the election board was withholding evidence that they were legally obligated to provide.

Evidence which they finally handed over just days ago, IIRC.

I'd link the presentation the audit team gave again, but shocker, Youtube took it down.
Doesn't matter; if it doesn't match his preconceived notions about how the world works, it doesn't exist. Trust me; people have tried to get through to him again and again, and it never works. I'd have a better chance of convincing you that God doesn't exist; his belief is that strong.
 

Airedale260

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Are you actively ignorant of this? The Maricopa County audit's initial results came back, and made it 100% clear that various forms of funny business showed that in that county alone more than enough votes had been mucked with to wipe out Biden's margin of victory, and on top of that the election board was withholding evidence that they were legally obligated to provide.

Evidence which they finally handed over just days ago, IIRC.

I'd link the presentation the audit team gave again, but shocker, Youtube took it down.

Actually they haven't disclosed anything. They *claim* to have handed over the evidence but for some odd reason, the actual results of the audit are the subject of a court fight over whether they can be released (tentatively scheduled for the 24th). Oddly the firm and the Arizona Senate keep fighting to keep the actual results under wraps (and keep failing because the courts are ruling that they're public records).

As for YouTube, yeah I know they're selective. But forgive me if I'm skeptical that the firm put out a video claiming that they found evidence without the documentation actually being released to either back up OR refute their claims.

Doesn't matter; if it doesn't match his preconceived notions about how the world works, it doesn't exist. Trust me; people have tried to get through to him again and again, and it never works. I'd have a better chance of convincing you that God doesn't exist; his belief is that strong.

I get the same feeling with you but others keep calling you out for spouting the same bullshit without actual proof.

See, I actually look for proof beyond what random people on YouTube or social media say. My career requires sifting through documents and actual records to determine what the hell I'm looking at and render judgement -and if I fuck it up, I am staring at significant consequences from a professional AND legal basis. Taking someone's claims at face value and maybe doing a cursory inspection of their allegations just don't cut it.

That doesn't mean I don't believe in things I can't see (taking God as one example), but at the same time, I have to be cognizant of potential biases, gaps in information, etc. And those pushing the "stolen election" narrative haven't convinced me of anything other than they're a bunch of grifters looking to profit over the sadness of people whose favored candidate lost.
 

Terthna

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I get the same feeling with you but others keep calling you out for spouting the same bullshit without actual proof.
Except when I actually present proof, that doesn't stop the disingenuous, such as yourself, from continuing to claim that I haven't. Meanwhile, you just keep dismissing everything that disproves your assertions, and pretend that your shit doesn't stink.

See, I actually look for proof beyond what random people on YouTube or social media say. My career requires sifting through documents and actual records to determine what the hell I'm looking at and render judgement -and if I fuck it up, I am staring at significant consequences from a professional AND legal basis. Taking someone's claims at face value and maybe doing a cursory inspection of their allegations just don't cut it.

That doesn't mean I don't believe in things I can't see (taking God as one example), but at the same time, I have to be cognizant of potential biases, gaps in information, etc. And those pushing the "stolen election" narrative haven't convinced me of anything other than they're a bunch of grifters looking to profit over the sadness of people whose favored candidate lost.
Yeah, no; nobody is buying it. You're just another jackass on the internet who tries to pretend he's the smartest person in the room. You don't care about proof; only about being proven right.
 

Airedale260

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Except when I actually present proof, that doesn't stop the disingenuous, such as yourself, from continuing to claim that I haven't. Meanwhile, you just keep dismissing everything that disproves your assertions, and pretend that your shit doesn't stink.


Yeah, no; nobody is buying it. You're just another jackass on the internet who tries to pretend he's the smartest person in the room. You don't care about proof; only about being proven right.

A couple of random videos and Twitter quotes don’t count as what most people would consider “proof.” Meanwhile I provide legal documents from the actual court cases, or analyses from conservative-leaning publications like NR, and they get rejected.

As for jackass? Maybe, but I’m not the one who constantly resorts to personal attacks and unprovoked sniping when I get called out -that’s you.

If I turn out to be wrong on this? Fine, I’ll be happy to come on here and claim I was wrong. It’s no skin off my nose. What I’m interested in is the actual truth, not the “secret truth” that only a few people who inhabit the fringes of the Internet “know.”

You misunderstand my motivations so completely that I don’t know if it’s projection or just that you have never met anyone who’s interested in exploring and understanding multiple sides of an issue. Either way, whatever you think of me just isn’t relevant.
 

Terthna

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Guys, I’m trying to see both sides of the debate here…but didn’t we already have a discussion, more than once if I might add, about not letting the posts devolve into personal/character attacks? And yes, I’m looking at you @Terthna . Take a breath and cool off.
Fair enough; I've said everything I wanted to say to him anyways (and then some, regrettably), concerning this particular subject. Not much point in continuing to beat my head against the proverbial brick wall; the guy is just not worth it.
 

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
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gral

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I understand the umbrage with him, but a man has died. Give him a couple of weeks "grace" period before you start reeing about his beliefs, no matter how much you disagree with them.

Halloween is almost upon us, gentleman. At this time of year we light candles for the dead, not speak ill of them.
Being graceful towards others isn't something Donald Trump has ever been accused of.
 

Zachowon

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Steven Crowder put it this way.
"I didn't like what he did later in life, but I appreciate how he got to where he was.".
Steven read his book when he was younger. Powell definitely did not do good later in life, but until then he was doing great
 

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