Trump Doubles Down, Enjoys Being Called "King of the Jews"

almostinsane

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At this point, the evangelicals aren't under any delusions about his character. What they care about is that he delivers his promises to them and the other party is repulsive to them. In this case, they would rather there be an American President who blasphemes than an American President who would harm Israel.

Note: I am unable to read the article due to it being behind a paywall. Can you post an alternative link?
 

HistoryMinor

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At this point, the evangelicals aren't under any delusions about his character. What they care about is that he delivers his promises to them and the other party is repulsive to them. In this case, they would rather there be an American President who blasphemes than an American President who would harm Israel.

Note: I am unable to read the article due to it being behind a paywall. Can you post an alternative link?

Doesn't the Antichrist establish peace in Jerusalem before desecrating the temple mount? It's getting to the point where you can flip a switch and have that sect openly embrace heresy. Now I get how people must have reacted to the rise of Positive Christianity.
 

almostinsane

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Doesn't the Antichrist establish peace in Jerusalem before desecrating the temple mount? It's getting to the point where you can flip a switch and have that sect openly embrace heresy. Now I get how people must have reacted to the rise of Positive Christianity.
I haven't seen any article where they endorse Trump's stupid statements. As I said, it's pragmatism. They know that Trump is not the Antichrist since the Antichrist, per their theology, would be universally acclaimed throughout the world. Trump is decidedly not, holding, at best, a small majority of likely voters.

And, I looked at another article, and Trump is responding positively to praise, not really saying it himself. He is very vain. Most people are not going to be changed by this. His supporters will shrug it off as him liking flattery too much but still like that he is keeping his promises to him and those who hate him will use this as one more reason why they like him and will be outraged on the internet until something new is on the news.
 
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HistoryMinor

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So what you're saying is he can pull a Duterte and call God stupid, blacks the n word and the American dream dead (whoops already did that) so long as he gives more tax breaks and supports a regime that most Americans back for openly bullshit pseudo religious reasons.


False Christians really are vile
 

almostinsane

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So what you're saying is he can pull a Duterte and call God stupid, blacks the n word and the American dream dead (whoops already did that) so long as he gives more tax breaks and supports a regime that most Americans back for openly bullshit pseudo religious reasons.


False Christians really are vile

I would contend that most Americans support Israel because it is the rational choice. It has taken no action that any sovereign country would not have to defend itself, especially as the United Nations has shown considerable bias towards them.
 

HistoryMinor

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I would contend that most Americans support Israel because it is the rational choice. It has taken no action that any sovereign country would not have to defend itself, especially as the United Nations has shown considerable bias towards them.

Didn't they bomb one of our boats and get nukes illegally?
 

FriedCFour

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So what you're saying is he can pull a Duterte and call God stupid, blacks the n word and the American dream dead (whoops already did that) so long as he gives more tax breaks and supports a regime that most Americans back for openly bullshit pseudo religious reasons.


False Christians really are vile
Most Americans back for openly bullshit pseudo religious reasons? Its got pretty mixed support between Israel and Palestine on the Democrat party and its like 70% supportive on the Republican side for Israel. Of Evangelicals its a minority of them that believe the Israel endtimes thing in the first place and even if they do back it for religious reasons you can back it for others too, like that they are the best nation in that area in regards to human rights and the freedom of their citizens.
 

FriedCFour

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Didn't they bomb one of our boats and get nukes illegally?
In the 60s yes. Here are some instances where that happened recently.

A U.S. Patriot missile shot down a British Panavia Tornado GR.4A of No. 13 Squadron RAF, killing the pilot and navigator. Investigations showed that the Tornado's identification friend or foe indicator had malfunctioned and hence it was not identified as a friendly aircraft

190th Fighter Squadron/Blues and Royals friendly fire incident – 28 March 2003. A pair of American A-10s from the 190th attacked four British armoured reconnaissance vehicles of the Blues and Royals, killing L/CoH. Matty Hull and injuring five others.

Twice we killed Brits less than two decades ago in war. Shit happens, Israel and America both declared it a mistake, Israel compensated the victims.
 

prinCZess

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Because Haaretz (regrettably--I've seen stuff from them I like) has apparently gone hardline on ad-blockers and registration requirements, Business Insider has the story as well.
Trump was quoting a hardline Trumper who used both the 'King of the Jews' bit (and that he was the second coming of God to Jews) as what I hope and think are metaphors. It honestly seems like something of a tempest in a teacup.

More concerning was his foot-in-mouth stuff earlier about how Jews who voted Democrat were disloyal. That's one anyone with a modicum of thought into their words wouldn't have gone with, and honestly more concerning than him preening over Wayne Root's weird-sounding compliments.

*sigh* 'Trump does a stupid' and 'Trump does a stupid on Twitter' are getting really tiring to hear about. Because the guy just doesn't seem to put any forethought or self-control into his word choice, phrasing, or anything else.
 
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To be honest, a lot of modern American Protestantism is functionally an atheist social club for the promotion of capitalism and self-help ideology. To them, these comments will not be troublesome. Some wiser folk may, in fact, wonder if this has been written as Mystery Babylon the Great. I don’t believe so, but it is legitimate to be troubled by this.
 

HistoryMinor

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They didn't get nukes illegally, they busted their ass working on their own nuclear program to ensure their nation's survival if it ever came down to it. No one was banning then from having nuclear weapons.

Them and Apartheid South Africa. I don't really condemn them for having nukes, I just think it's hypocritical of them to pretend that Iran gaining nukes too would lead to the end of the world.
 

Big Steve

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It wouldn't be the end of the world, but might be the end of their world, if one of the Ayatollahs ever decided he could risk nuking Israel without severe retaliation (or figuring that Iran could rebuild from retaliation while Israel, given its size, would be gutted utterly by just a relative few key nuclear attacks).
 

HistoryMinor

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It wouldn't be the end of the world, but might be the end of their world, if one of the Ayatollahs ever decided he could risk nuking Israel without severe retaliation (or figuring that Iran could rebuild from retaliation while Israel, given its size, would be gutted utterly by just a relative few key nuclear attacks).
But that's stupid, if Israel is a settler state, it can theoretically ship in more Jews to repopulate the place. Meanwhile Iran would be gobbled up by hostile Salafis and if shit gets really bad displaced Muslims from India. No one's that suicidal.
 

Big Steve

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But that's stupid, if Israel is a settler state, it can theoretically ship in more Jews to repopulate the place. Meanwhile Iran would be gobbled up by hostile Salafis and if shit gets really bad displaced Muslims from India. No one's that suicidal.

And Israel would get all of these new Jews in before their neighbors could rush in to take advantage? Hell, even the ones they're at peace with probably would simply on the grounds of "securing the border areas". Iran has a lot more strategic depth, and terrain favorable to defense in various regions, than Israel.

Israel's size makes it inherently more vulnerable than Iran to such attacks, regardless of other considerations.
 

HistoryMinor

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And Israel would get all of these new Jews in before their neighbors could rush in to take advantage? Hell, even the ones they're at peace with probably would simply on the grounds of "securing the border areas". Iran has a lot more strategic depth, and terrain favorable to defense in various regions, than Israel.

Israel's size makes it inherently more vulnerable than Iran to such attacks, regardless of other considerations.
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In this scenario Syria, Lebanon and probably Egypt are getting nuked too. I think the Sampson Protocol states that everybody in the region has to die to avoid what you're worried about.
 

FriedCFour

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Why is 2019 even a thing.
Well in what is now known as the year AD 525 Dionysius Exiguus devised the calendar based on the birth year of christ as year one with all subsequent dates afterwards counting sequentially upwards, called Anno domini, or year of our lord. Several hundred years later it was widely popular throughout the western world, but would not see near universal adoption until 1582 with Pope Gregory XIII by papal decree with some modifications for the now well known leap year phenomenon, thereafter known as the Gregorian calendar. It was then spread by Catholic nations throughout their colonial holdings, adopted near universally by Protestants as well, until by the 20th century with globalization it was adopted throughout the world for standardization reasons. As it has been 2019 years since the set birth date of christ, the year is known as 2019 throughout the world.
 
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