United States Trump 2nd Term - Planning and Beyond

[The Whispering Monk]

Drones and their counter are just another run into the bullet/missile vs armor game.

It made sense to build missiles that are 100's if thousands of dollars or even a million dollars or two if it lets you destroy a weapon system that's pretty expensive.

Drone swarms will be useful against infantry positions and armor without protection, but once dedicated anti-drone systems become wide spread, the race is on. Attack vs mitigation/defense.

Drone swarms won't be able to resist heavy EM attacks if you want to make them relatively inexpensive. It's why you're not going to see a lot of AI style drone management without a large increase in cost as well.

So will drone swarms be a thing? Depends entirely on the environment and enemy. Dedicated Drone-wingmen will absolutely be a thing b/c you can tie them into a very close/encrypted network.

AI Driven drone swarms that ID targets and threats/counters, coordinate to engage and remove? Ehhh...to some degree, but not for the near term unless the target is just without any real means to counter basic drones.

 

[Zachowon]

Drones and their counter are just another run into the bullet/missile vs armor game.

It made sense to build missiles that are 100's if thousands of dollars or even a million dollars or two if it lets you destroy a weapon system that's pretty expensive.

Drone swarms will be useful against infantry positions and armor without protection, but once dedicated anti-drone systems become wide spread, the race is on. Attack vs mitigation/defense.

Drone swarms won't be able to resist heavy EM attacks if you want to make them relatively inexpensive. It's why you're not going to see a lot of AI style drone management without a large increase in cost as well.

So will drone swarms be a thing? Depends entirely on the environment and enemy. Dedicated Drone-wingmen will absolutely be a thing b/c you can tie them into a very close/encrypted network.

AI Driven drone swarms that ID targets and threats/counters, coordinate to engage and remove? Ehhh...to some degree, but not for the near term unless the target is just without any real means to counter basic drones.

And only ne useful against static things.

 

[49ersfootball]

Drones and their counter are just another run into the bullet/missile vs armor game.

It made sense to build missiles that are 100's if thousands of dollars or even a million dollars or two if it lets you destroy a weapon system that's pretty expensive.

Drone swarms will be useful against infantry positions and armor without protection, but once dedicated anti-drone systems become wide spread, the race is on. Attack vs mitigation/defense.

Drone swarms won't be able to resist heavy EM attacks if you want to make them relatively inexpensive. It's why you're not going to see a lot of AI style drone management without a large increase in cost as well.

So will drone swarms be a thing? Depends entirely on the environment and enemy. Dedicated Drone-wingmen will absolutely be a thing b/c you can tie them into a very close/encrypted network.

AI Driven drone swarms that ID targets and threats/counters, coordinate to engage and remove? Ehhh...to some degree, but not for the near term unless the target is just without any real means to counter basic drones.

Prediction: Hegseth will be the next US Secretary of Defense.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

And only ne useful against static things.

I see a place where drone swarms get used as a close in missile/artillery defense network.

 

[Abhorsen]

It depends where the AI is hosted. Is it hosted outside the drone, and needs to communicate with the drone to function? Or do you have a local instance of the AI (doable, as running an AI is an order of magnitude less difficult than letting an AI learn).

Then you could have a drone that uses its own on-board camera to find enemies and attack autonomously. They could be set as effectively their own mines that home in: set it dormant near a road, and have it blow up the first truck that comes by.

This is going to be just as resistant to EM as if a person was actually in the drone piloting it, only without the person dying to suicide. That is the real threat of future drone swarms.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

This is going to be just as resistant to EM as if a person was actually in the drone piloting it, only without the person dying to suicide. That is the real threat of future drone swarms.

When I mentioned EM defense, I'm actually talking about Aegis levels of EM that causes the Drone's circuits to dry.

 

[Poe]

A video of one of those is what caused Elon to say what he said.

Despite what his fanboys will tell you, Elon is wrong about things often. Its definitely worth being worried about drones and making sure we are always at the cutting edge though, but even if they were fully automated that doesn't justify getting rid of much more powerful craft.

It depends where the AI is hosted. Is it hosted outside the drone, and needs to communicate with the drone to function? Or do you have a local instance of the AI (doable, as running an AI is an order of magnitude less difficult than letting an AI learn).

Then you could have a drone that uses its own on-board camera to find enemies and attack autonomously. They could be set as effectively their own mines that home in: set it dormant near a road, and have it blow up the first truck that comes by.

This is going to be just as resistant to EM as if a person was actually in the drone piloting it, only without the person dying to suicide. That is the real threat of future drone swarms.

No its not wtf? Why do people think EMP and EW attacks only focus on internet? The US has demonstrated electronic weaponry capable of totally frying circuits remotely. This ignores that the more automated your systems get the more hacking and viruses become a serious concern and any machine with inputs has vulnerabilities.

 

[Abhorsen]

When I mentioned EM defense, I'm actually talking about Aegis levels of EM that causes the Drone's circuits to dry.

Hence why I was careful to say:

This is going to be just as resistant to EM as if a person was actually in the drone piloting it

Basically, if it would fry a drone, it'd fry the circuits in a plane too. The drone would be no more vulnerable than the plane based on the lack of a human pilot. Maybe it'd go slower (but that can be solved by using faster drones), etc.

 

[Vyor]

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... He named known viruses that are already in world circulation.

RFK is accused to be anti-vax. Do the math.

So will drone swarms be a thing? Depends entirely on the environment and enemy. Dedicated Drone-wingmen will absolutely be a thing b/c you can tie them into a very close/encrypted network.

Those are already a thing on the infantry scale.

 

[Zachowon]

Add in aircraft provide manned which will be more adaptable then AI

 

[Robovski]

Manned aircraft are manned, which is a defining limitation (operation time, g-forces, size, pilots are human beings with families and emotional states) and can be a plus (flexible responsiveness, AI is still developing, is independent and countermeasure resistant). This was the real of science fiction and is increasing part of reality. I am not for removing the hand of man from warfare but this is yet another race in the 'what works/wins' stakes of warfare and I prefer the USA stay in the cutting edge. Fortunately, we are big enough to do both.

 

[Typhonis]

MSN

So the Biden pardon may give Trump extra ammo to have his own cases dismissed.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

MSN

So the Biden pardon may give Trump extra ammo to have his own cases dismissed.

At this point, Biden doesn't give a damn anymore. He's running out the clock to Monday, 20 January 2025 when he leaves the White House for the final time and heads back to Wilmington, Delaware.

Any guesses on which of the former Presidents will be attending Trump's upcoming Inauguration? Carter is in hospice care and likely going to pass at some point.

Guessing Clinton, Bush, Jr., Obama will be attending besides Biden. Interested to see if former Vice Presidents James Danforth Quayle, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., , Dick Cheney and Mike Pence will be attending?

 

[Cherico]

At this point, Biden doesn't give a damn anymore. He's running out the clock to Monday, 20 January 2025 when he leaves the White House for the final time and heads back to Wilmington, Delaware.

Any guesses on which of the former Presidents will be attending Trump's upcoming Inauguration? Carter is in hospice care and likely going to pass at some point.

Guessing Clinton, Bush, Jr., Obama will be attending besides Biden. Interested to see if former Vice Presidents James Danforth Quayle, Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., , Dick Cheney and Mike Pence will be attending?

Why would Biden care about what happens?

Lets be honest the democrats stabbed him in the back hard and if the GOP does go scorched earth in response to a lot of shit Biden has every motivation to give states evidence and get off free with his ill gotten gains for himself and his family while letting the people who openly fucked him get fucked.

There is litterally no reason for him to care, its funny the man got the thing he wanted his entire life and its resulted in the destruction of his legacy, his reputation and everything he cares about.

 

[Typhonis]

We could see the downfall of the Clinton political machine. They have to be running out of favors.

 

[Robovski]

Should just place Jimmy in a glass sarcophagus on the Washington Mall at this rate.

 

[Rorschach]

... He named known viruses that are already in world circulation.

RFK is accused to be anti-vax. Do the math.

And Peter Hotez has been deeply involved in GoF research for a long fucking time, so when he starts predicting viruses he should know, since him and his buddies helped manufacture the last one.

SARS-CoV-1, was also in circulation but it wasn't really a problem before Fauci and Hotez and their buddies thought it would be a good to start tinkering up a new and improved version of it in Wuhan.

Peter Hotez can go fuck himself, he should either be in prison or in the ground.

 

[Cherico]

We could see the downfall of the Clinton political machine. They have to be running out of favors.

I think we will see the clinton political machine die, but my money is that their influence dies when Bill dies of natural causes. Which my money is on happening soon because the man lived and partied hard. Hilary just doesn't have the personal charisma and makes enemies too easily to continue to have much clout after her husband passes.

 

[Vyor]

SARS-CoV-1, was also in circulation but it wasn't really a problem before Fauci and Hotez and their buddies thought it would be a good to start tinkering up a new and improved version of it in Wuhan.

SARS-CoV-1 causes SARS. As in, the virus that caused several pandemics in the early 2000s and is still a massive problem in hospitals? Besides, BANAL-52 bat coronavirus is the closest relative to CoV-2 (showing very few differences on the genetic level), if it was manufactured in a lab (and it likely was) it would be from that.

 

[Terthna]

Why would Biden care about what happens?

Lets be honest the democrats stabbed him in the back hard and if the GOP does go scorched earth in response to a lot of shit Biden has every motivation to give states evidence and get off free with his ill gotten gains for himself and his family while letting the people who openly fucked him get fucked.

There is litterally no reason for him to care, its funny the man got the thing he wanted his entire life and its resulted in the destruction of his legacy, his reputation and everything he cares about.

If the Dems have any say, Joe Biden's presidency likely won't be remembered at all; in favor of simply pretending Trump had two consecutive terms, in which all the bad things Biden did were actually done by Trump. I would not be surprised if, a few decades from now (assuming the Dems are still around), they'll be talking about things like how Trump screwed up the withdrawal from Afganistan; and whenever someone tries to point out that was Biden who did that, they'll respond the only way they know how: