DarthOne
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There's a reason why I call myself a traditionalist....
Traditionalism and Fascism
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Doomsought
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That is why I'm for moving marrages back to pre-Romeo-and-Juiliet.
Abhishekm
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Honestly after a certain point I've got to ask whats even the point of state sanctioned marriage? Like I get it legal protections and all but its not like that even factors into things like child custody or asset divisions much anymore from the looks of it.
Is a minimal increase in tax free income worth it? Would you even care about people who would decide against getting married if wasn't for thr tax breaks?
Edit: Ok, I am failing at this. How do you post a picture directly again?
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Depends. Is it from another site? Then click on the picture icon between the chain-links and the smile in roughly the middle of the text-box. You will see a box where you copy-paste the link-adress of your picture. Do that, and the picture should appear in your post then.
Doomsought
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Because it used to be the most important financial contract in a persons lifetime and the contract needed enforced. All the same reasons we have laws about contracts governing car ownership apply to marraiges.
DocSolarisReich
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Not just that, but the family is the ur-form of the State. All authority derives from Paternal authority. Thus the 'state' as such and the 'family' as such are two forms of the same thing.
"Authority begins in the family. Without the Pater Familias, there can be no Authority, even in the State." ~ Aimez Loyaute
That's just fascism, not reality.
Nope. fascism is leftist ,and as any other leftist movement made family part of state,when in all normal christian states familes was first and more important.
DocSolarisReich
Esoteric Spaceman
Indeed.All first states could be described as family bussiness.China,as long as remain Empire,formally was nothing more then gathering of families with emperor as father of entire nation.
I think we are talking past each other.
Your talking about the idea in a top down manner.
He probally means it in a bottom up manner, there is a big difference between the two.
The idea of the family as the building block of society and then scalling things to larger levels is a pretty old one with the idea that parents have ultiment athority over their children and that there is a private sphere that should ideally be left unmolested by the larger public sphere.
I prefer to think of politicians as civil servants rather than as parents, no matter how you scale it.
In practice, many of them are neither.
Political officeholders who thought of themselves as "parents" might feel more obligation towards the wellbeing of their "children" than do a lot of the modern crowd - who treat being elected as a blank cheque to do whatever they like.
That's true. However, we need to do everything to steer society to view politicians as civil servants rather than as parents. A servant is supposed to do your bidding, he can advise but can never decide for you, the final decision must always be yours. A parent, however, can completely ignore his child's wishes or any input if he perceives that his actions are beneficial for his child - whether he's right or not. That's no less terrible than a purely self-interested sociopath at the helm.
Fascism literally derives from Ancient Rome. Incidentally, so does the word and concept of the paterfamlias.
The only problem I see is that a communist actually has food in the first place.Oh I agree. Holding political office should be seen as a position of duty and responsibility, not as one of status and privilege.
And a society with a ruling class that sees the rest of the population as being like children is inherently a tyrannical one - whether the tyranny is well-meaning nor not.
Meanwhile, memes!
Yeah... how did he get all the stuff, or the building?
Answer: he took it all at gunpoint from other people, for "fair distribution".
Again,nope.That is how first states was working.China empire,like i arleady mentioned,considered that as fact till it cease to exist.
So,according to you,all first states ,including China,was fascist.Great discovery,you should get Nobel prize for showing that Mussolini created all states on Earth.