Stargate Through the Looking Glass and into Heaven.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Ra never should have cheated on her with those furries man.

So much of the shitstorm Apophis is fixing to unleash on creation could have been negated had he kept it in his pants and away from Catgirls/Catboys.

@Spartan303 boy that's awfully current event relevant ain't it?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Her and Jack are probably still going to ene up having drama together but it won't be "and ai molest you and make you a host/Jaffa" type thing.

Thats pretty much Jack's "kill 'em all!" button.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Thats pretty much Jack's "kill 'em all!" button.

I may, may have Jack and Hathor end up on good terms if not more. Because it's an amusing subversion of that and she's not retarded enough to mess with the irreverent maniac who defaults to atomics whenever he feels like his back is to the wall.

Horus being all "but mother he killed father!" sort of loses its punch when Ra was willing to simp for furries and also totally provoked that shit in the first place and that'll get found out eventually and cause huge problems.

Much as Ra is the pillar of their lore and the father of their nation...His own really strict social rules and value system means his death was technically justified..Which is great for SG-1 on a personal level..not so great for Earth given what it means for Apophis.

"The house of Ra wasn't the victim of a terror attack! It turns out they attempted a cowardly assault on the only race noble enough to throw off our Yoke and respectful enough to leave us alone for thirty thousand years! Tell me again why you're fit to rule! We are at war because of his sanctimony" etc..

 

[Knowledgeispower]

So does anyone want to tell the Goa'uld that I may have totally accidentally unleashed the Royal Manticorian Navy and all of its allies circa the end end of the book series all fully upgraded with Stargate tech after them due to what Apophis and his queen just did? Nah I'm sure it will be fine

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Also I'm loving the story thus far

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

So does anyone want to tell the Goa'uld that I may have totally accidentally unleashed the Royal Manticorian Navy and of its allies circa themed of the book series all fully upgraded with Stargate tech after them due to what Apophis and his queen just did? Nah I'm sure it will be fine

Which atrocity are you specifically referring too? Apophis letting his girlfriend murder almost all his children with his legal wife? The mental rape of Shau're or driving Hathor to the point where she had to seek out the God Damn Asurans to make a mutual defense pact with?

Or all of the above?

Also I'm loving the story thus far

Thank you! Next episode should be fun, it's gonna be a good ol'fashion Magnificent seven style story with some Arthurian elements to it and action, action, action!

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

How'd I handle Hathor by the way? Trying to give Goa'uld different personalities...then trying to imagine what someone so damn ancient and accomplished would think and act like...hasn't been easy. I love doing it, but I still am eternally worried I'm dropping the ball.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I don't think you dropped the ball at all. I do appreciate that youre taking the long view with her.

I am still waiting to give Hathor's verdict because I don't feel I've seen her act enough.

Though, I'm wondering how much of an influence the millenia as a static society will stifle the various Goa'ulds' ability to react appropriately to this situation vs just by what their previous history tells them to do.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Which atrocity are you specifically referring too? Apophis letting his girlfriend murder almost all his children with his legal wife? The mental rape of Shau're or driving Hathor to the point where she had to seek out the God Damn Asurans to make a mutual defense pact with?

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All the above but especially the bit with Shau're it pissed off the Treecat overlords something fierce

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I don't think you dropped the ball at all. I do appreciate that youre taking the long view with her.

I am still waiting to give Hathor's verdict because I don't feel I've seen her act enough.

Though, I'm wondering how much of an influence the millenia as a static society will stifle the various Goa'ulds' ability to react appropriately to this situation vs just by what their previous history tells them to do.

That'll be an interesting problem, they've almost always been the underdog and the times they haven't been they were up against enemies who didn't think the way they did. the USSF is very much a kindred spirit and Ra was afraid they'd create a successor that might annihilate them as they did the Ancient races if they dropped the ball.

Dropping the Ball in this case likely means treating the Tau'Ri as rebelling Lotar or treating them as they treated the Kobolans and Llempiri. As opposed to potential allies and trading partners whose ability to think outside of the box would be just the creative kick in the nuts their entire society needs to make the Goa'uld remember their humble roots and to get them back on track.

By the way no one caught the Farscape allusion? Saqet is out there in her angry old lady mode making back alley deals with the Sebeceans aka aborted Jaffa and you gotta wonder how that's gonna playout given Peace Keeper High Command may very well have a massive chip on its shoulder about being the abandoned child.

All the above but especially the bit with Shau're it pissed off the Treecat overlords something fierce

Amunet is gonna get hers...

Up next Yu the Golden, more of the debriefing and Ba'al and Dreyac.

After that Ep 2 be concluded with Hammond of Texas and Jack O'Neill making a promise to President Trump.

 

[Harlock]

Very interesting meeting there, thats going to cause some hiccups with the balance of power. Most intriguing.

I like Hathor, nice snippet of her history and the nature of her followers. Can inferr a lot from that.

Keep up the good work

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Very interesting meeting there, thats going to cause some hiccups with the balance of power. Most intriguing.

I like Hathor, nice snippet of her history and the nature of her followers. Can inferr a lot from that.

Keep up the good work

She's a lady that's easy to get on with.

Simple rules really; just don't bang furries around her and don't let your psychotic underage girlfriend murder a bunch of her nieces a nephews.

The Asurans seemed like a logical choice for a defense pact. After all, their origins are pretty similar to my version of the Goa'uld.

Ironically, neither Hathor or Naim want to threaten the Asgard. Though less because of fear now a days and more because both have grown to respect them.

Hathor is just worried about her brother acting like such a retard he ends up pissing off Thor enough to want to do something about it. So she's keeping that in her back pocket.

The Replicators may still show up. Mostly because it honestly bothered me how Stargate Command just dismissed the Asurans as replicators when they were something very different.

I also get the impression neither the Replicators nor the Asurans would have liked each other very much. And it might be interesting to see if Jack can play the peacemaker between the Asgard, the Snakes and Asurans in a good old fashion toaster war side plot.

Maybe.

Glad you liked her.

Teal'c is going to profile her a bit next chapter as well. So we'll get a non POV look at the cosmic soccer mom.

 

[Harlock]

Simple rules really; just don't bang furries around her and don't let your psychotic underage girlfriend murder a bunch of her nieces a nephews.

Good advice to live by

And I agree with you on the Asurans, there is more to explore there, glad you are taking a shot at them too.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Good advice to live by

And I agree with you on the Asurans, there is more to explore there, glad you are taking a shot at them too.

I'll have them on the back burner for a bit more, I'm still trying to add some depth to their civilization.

How am I handling the Asgard? I'm trying to keep that "no one messes with them because they're the Titan in a room full of Giants" vibe and I wanted to do them justice . But also make it clear that the Goa'uld aren't just chumps that can be swatted like flies.

Also spare then the absolutely awful fate they got in the show. They didn't deserve that! Thor didn't deserve that.

 

[paulobrito]

So, if I understand right, the Goa'uld lost 10 ships for each Asgard one they destroy, right? That put a big, bad, adversary but not invincible, image correctly, IMHO.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

So, if I understand right, the Goa'uld lost 10 ships for each Asgard one they destroy, right? That put a big, bad, adversary but not invincible, image correctly, IMHO.

Yes, now it would probably be closer to five to one. But at the same time their territory is far more massive and orbital defenses are great and all but that's still a lot of territory to defend against an enemy that can just pop up with concentrated force do damage and leave before your ships can get there. So in some ways their in even worse shape tactically than before.

Conversely the Asgardian Kingdoms have been fighting for their lives for a million years, one is already extinct or nearly extinct and they have a certain health problem they need to lick and lick soon.

So neither side wants a fight- the Asgard can still conceivably win a war with the Goa'uld or the Asurans at an alarming cost.

But they can't beat both of them without it being an "we take you guys with us" type deal.

At least that's what I'm trying to convey.

Theyre a bit more advanced than Canon though. The Goa'uld in this story are technologically on par with the Asgard in the show and the Asgardians in this story are still a couple generations ahead.

They're still the meanest dog in the junkyard. It's just that the JYD has some arthritis now. Though that might make him more dangerous. After all the only thing worse than a roided out Rottweiler is one who is grouchy and has bad vision

....speaking from personal experience there. An uncle of mine breeds police horses and he had a bunch of Filas Brasileros. They were all brothers from the same litter and when they got old and a little senile they confused a pregnant horse for a dog and attacked her and managed to get her down and rip out her foal before they were pulled back.

Scary shit.

Might have slightly influenced my portrayal of the Vanir lol.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Also spare then the absolutely awful fate they got in the show. They didn't deserve that! Thor didn't deserve that.

I completely agree the Asgard were ended horribly by the show.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I completely agree the Asgard were ended horribly by the show.

The idea that they couldn't ascend because of cloning was retarded or that they couldn't fix their genetic damage seems wild.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

It was the last part that bothered me the most.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

It was the last part that bothered me the most.

That never made any sense...It was a cop out because the writers got lazy and stopped caring.