The most likely locations for future wars?

Zachowon

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At this point, I suspect China's more likely to break out in monkey bites with India rather than Taiwan. Taiwan is a big deal in the news with a lot of people keeping their eyes on it, and any buildup China does to try to get enough shipping to invade is going to immediately draw the attention of Japan, Korea, the US, and probably a few others. India, however, has a land connection, a chunk of territory is disputed and claimed by both sides, and there have been shots fired multiple times over the past year or so and at least 20 deaths.

In my mind that has a big potential to suddenly explode into major violence and a full-on war if somebody gets the idea their pride is on the line and takes it too far. Especially with China now getting in bed with the Taliban, hence with Pakistan, which is India's archenemy for life.
Isnt India the only country that would just have sheer luck on thier side to stall both Pakistan and China?
 

Bear Ribs

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Isnt India the only country that would just have sheer luck on thier side to stall both Pakistan and China?
Less luck than topography.

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Thanks to that horrifying wall of mountains that is the Himalayas, there's basically only a handful of routes between Asia and Europe. All of them except for the one through India require punching through several 'stans followed by invading Russia. On top of that, because of how India happens to jut out into the Indian Ocean, their territorial waters, and more importantly the area their military can hit from ground bases, commands most of the viable sea routes between Asia and Europe (also the Middle East if you happen to want, say, oil). Basically, if India says no, absolutely nothing gets to travel between the Middle East and Asia, and precious little from Europe to Asia unless they want to take the horribly long route.

India having those enemies was inevitable because India is in their way. Poland has been invaded by everybody in Europe for roughly the same reason, mountain ranges funnel any travel between Europe and Eurasia through Poland. Afghanistan has a similar history because they're a valley running through those mountains and thus, presuming you can get the Afghanis to play ball*, you have a viable route through those mountains, which is what China's trying to do now.

A huge number of weird wars, strange marches, and rivalries make much more sense if you quit looking at the borders of political maps and instead look at the topography and how mountain ranges shape travel routes.

*Nobody has ever gotten the Afghanis to play ball.
 

Zachowon

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Less luck than topography.

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Thanks to that horrifying wall of mountains that is the Himalayas, there's basically only a handful of routes between Asia and Europe. All of them except for the one through India require punching through several 'stans followed by invading Russia. On top of that, because of how India happens to jut out into the Indian Ocean, their territorial waters, and more importantly the area their military can hit from ground bases, commands most of the viable sea routes between Asia and Europe (also the Middle East if you happen to want, say, oil). Basically, if India says no, absolutely nothing gets to travel between the Middle East and Asia, and precious little from Europe to Asia unless they want to take the horribly long route.

India having those enemies was inevitable because India is in their way. Poland has been invaded by everybody in Europe for roughly the same reason, mountain ranges funnel any travel between Europe and Eurasia through Poland. Afghanistan has a similar history because they're a valley running through those mountains and thus, presuming you can get the Afghanis to play ball*, you have a viable route through those mountains, which is what China's trying to do now.

A huge number of weird wars, strange marches, and rivalries make much more sense if you quit looking at the borders of political maps and instead look at the topography and how mountain ranges shape travel routes.

*Nobody has ever gotten the Afghanis to play ball.
Well yeah, they could withstand a Chinese invasion
 

Bassoe

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I always thought of something sprouting from China's economic colonialism of Africa would be plausible.
  1. Mugabeist local goverments in Africa attempt to escape the Chinese debt trap by murdering the Chinese colonists and nationalizing the infrastructure they built.
  2. China sends in the PLA to defend their nationals and repossess the infastructure they'd already been paid by the locals to build as collateral.
  3. The PLA occupation force remains indefinitely to maintain order while the infrastructure is used to loot natural resources.
At all stages, American glowies are fanning the flames by assisting the mugabeists, if only to spite China.
 

Cherico

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I always thought of something sprouting from China's economic colonialism of Africa would be plausible.
  1. Mugabeist local goverments in Africa attempt to escape the Chinese debt trap by murdering the Chinese colonists and nationalizing the infrastructure they built.
  2. China sends in the PLA to defend their nationals and repossess the infastructure they'd already been paid by the locals to build as collateral.
  3. The PLA occupation force remains indefinitely to maintain order while the infrastructure is used to loot natural resources.
At all stages, American glowies are fanning the flames by assisting the mugabeists, if only to spite China.

African countries have done all of these things in the past.
 

WolfBear

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Rhodesia is a landlocked country, so China will have to pay some really good bribes to get it's forces there as people of the transit country will be really riled up over their leaders selling out to colonisers

So, have an African country with a coastline instead serve as Chinese occupation ground.
 

ParadiseLost

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I always thought of something sprouting from China's economic colonialism of Africa would be plausible.
  1. Mugabeist local goverments in Africa attempt to escape the Chinese debt trap by murdering the Chinese colonists and nationalizing the infrastructure they built.
  2. China sends in the PLA to defend their nationals and repossess the infastructure they'd already been paid by the locals to build as collateral.
  3. The PLA occupation force remains indefinitely to maintain order while the infrastructure is used to loot natural resources.
At all stages, American glowies are fanning the flames by assisting the mugabeists, if only to spite China.

Absolutely. I completely believe that, by the end of this century, China will be the economic puppeteer of several African nations, which will be independent nations in name only, if that.
 

WolfBear

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Absolutely. I completely believe that, by the end of this century, China will be the economic puppeteer of several African nations, which will be independent nations in name only, if that.

That's what happens when countries with average IQs in the 70-85 range have to compete against a country with an average IQ of 105-108, unfortunately.
 

Cherico

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Absolutely. I completely believe that, by the end of this century, China will be the economic puppeteer of several African nations, which will be independent nations in name only, if that.

I firmly belive that said african nations will just nationalize chinese assets and steal their shit.
 

ParadiseLost

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What about this? :


The most serious issues are that IQ tests in English on someone of another language are questionable at best, and most translations are usually not done by someone with the specializations required.

It also doesn't account for the differences in education levels, which would make IQ tests not mean what people think they mean. IQ is affected by a mix of genetics and education - you can absolutely teach someone to be smarter and perform better on IQ tests.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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I would take an extremely wild guess and say SE Asia, with the Spratlys dispute still going on. The idea of PLA forces only a few hundred miles from Manila is something that scares me. A lot.
 

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