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Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
You could redo the meme with that in mind. The fruit is nuclear, the cocaine 'green new deal', and elmo is Climate Campaigners.

Probably, though somehow, I doubt the original meme-maker would appreciate it if you replied to them with your redone version.

Kinda’ makes me wish someone would do exactly that, to be honest! :ROFLMAO:
 

Bear Ribs

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Today's theme is Wall o' Text again.

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bintananth

behind a desk
Well, in fairness, that last one does have a point. After all, no one likes the buzzkill who gives deconstructionist sermons about how an exciting time is just a roundabout “Source of false hope!” or some crap. :p
The first one is why you never trust someone who calls themselves a "libertarian-socialist" or insists that they're always smarter than you are.
 

Bear Ribs

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Well, in fairness, that last one does have a point. After all, no one likes the buzzkill who gives deconstructionist sermons about how an exciting time is just a roundabout “Source of false hope!” or some crap. :p
I feel like all three actually make legit points, they're just really crappy memes because they're walls of text that wokescold, and the actually potentially useful message is buried in the process.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
I feel like all three actually make legit points, they're just really crappy memes because they're walls of text that wokescold, and the actually potentially useful message is buried in the process.
Noam Chonsky would be absolutely clueless if he were try and decipher Cray-1 machine code and he calls himself a language expert.

I'd probably need a few weeks to turn it into something even remotely resembling English and I have access to a Cray-1 hardware manual and the source code of a failed attempt.
 

Cherenkov

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Noam Chonsky would be absolutely clueless if he were try and decipher Cray-1 machine code and he calls himself a language expert.

I'd probably need a few weeks to turn it into something even remotely resembling English and I have access to a Cray-1 hardware manual and the source code of a failed attempt.

Understanding a particular machine instruction set makes you an expert (or at least knowledgeable) on the architecture of that particular machine. It doesn't make you any more or less knowledgeable about human language, which for one isn't even an "instruction set" for the human brain.

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Bear Ribs

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Understanding a particular machine instruction set makes you an expert (or at least knowledgeable) on the architecture of that particular machine. It doesn't make you any more or less knowledgeable about human language, which for one isn't even an "instruction set" for the human brain.

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It's a mistake to take @bintananth's weird non-sequiturs too seriously.

As a threadtax, Today we'll look at "We just made our facts up" as a theme.

The number of communist events and natural disasters in this list are staggering... I think they actually make up the bulk of the list.
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Did you know the Jan. 6 Riot successfully overthrew the US government?
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The DPRK did nothing anybody could reasonably dislike them for.
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bintananth

behind a desk
the only one who matches mao is gengis Khan.
The mongols actually followed the laws and customs of war - as they understood them - and generally didn't go "we're killing everyone" unless someone went past the bounds of what was considered acceptable.
 

S'task

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The mongols actually followed the laws and customs of war - as they understood them - and generally didn't go "we're killing everyone" unless someone went past the bounds of what was considered acceptable.
This is not entirely true.

The Mongols followed the laws and customs of war as they believed them to be. However, these laws and customs were not universal. A major one that came up multiple times was how many more settled peoples had no compuncture about killing a messanger who bore demands and sending their head back to the person who made the demands as a formal "no, fuck you". This was no special thing to many settled peoples; however, for Mongols messangers were offered near sacred status and killing a messanger was a massive taboo that demanded disproportionate response. As such, when such things happened the Mongols tended to eradicate entire cities involved... or stage multiple massive sea invasions that they really could not afford.

(Aside, this discrepancy in the value of messangers makes sense when you consider the difference between a nomadic culture and a settled one. In a settled culture a messanger is a dime a dozen, just about everyone knows where important places are and those important places don't move... meanwhile for nomadic peoples a messanger who can quickly and reliably deliver messages between tribes on the steppe even as that migrate is someone who's not just a swift rider, but also a good tracker and has to know massive amounts of territory to swiftly travel over it, thus it is a highly skilled and difficult job deserving special respect... as opposed to a job any shmuck can do like in a settled society.)
 

Cherico

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This is not entirely true.

The Mongols followed the laws and customs of war as they believed them to be. However, these laws and customs were not universal. A major one that came up multiple times was how many more settled peoples had no compuncture about killing a messanger who bore demands and sending their head back to the person who made the demands as a formal "no, fuck you". This was no special thing to many settled peoples; however, for Mongols messangers were offered near sacred status and killing a messanger was a massive taboo that demanded disproportionate response. As such, when such things happened the Mongols tended to eradicate entire cities involved... or stage multiple massive sea invasions that they really could not afford.

(Aside, this discrepancy in the value of messangers makes sense when you consider the difference between a nomadic culture and a settled one. In a settled culture a messanger is a dime a dozen, just about everyone knows where important places are and those important places don't move... meanwhile for nomadic peoples a messanger who can quickly and reliably deliver messages between tribes on the steppe even as that migrate is someone who's not just a swift rider, but also a good tracker and has to know massive amounts of territory to swiftly travel over it, thus it is a highly skilled and difficult job deserving special respect... as opposed to a job any shmuck can do like in a settled society.)

killing diplomats in genneral is still a massively douche move.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
"Hmmm yes today I shall violate sacred hospitality on flimsy as fuck excuses to try and bully these weird steppe upstarts I am sure this will go well."

Some retard in Iran making the worst mistake of his life and guaranteeing the end of their current Perisan Dynasty.
IIRC, that was caliph Al-Musta'sim in 1258. What the Mongols did to Baghdad was not pretty. When the Mongols captured him they made him watch the destruction before they stuffed him in a sack and trampled him with horses.
 

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