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This may be the biggest Labour defeat since 1935.



U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson is set to remain in power with an exit poll showing his Conservative Party winning a clear majority of parliamentary seats in a general election on Thursday.
The exit poll by Ipsos Mori — commissioned by Sky News, the BBC and ITV — was released soon after voting stations around the U.K. closed at 10 p.m. London time. It’s a survey of thousands of voters which has been reliably accurate in recent years.

The poll projected that the Conservatives would win 368 seats in Parliament, a gain of 50 seats.
A party usually needs over 320 seats to have a majority in the House of Commons in order to pass bills. The opposition Labour party was predicted to lose 71 seats with a figure of 191. The centrist Liberal Democrats were predicted to get 13 seats, the Brexit Party none and the Scottish National Party 55 seats.

‘Huge margin’
“Boris Johnson seems to have won the U.K. general election by a huge margin,” Kallum Pickering, a senior economist at Berenberg, said in a research note.
He added that a win of this magnitude would mean the hardline euroskeptic wing of the Conservative Party would matter less than before, and it therefore lowers the risk of a hard Brexit.

The result of the election will have a decisive effect on the direction that Brexit takes, three-and-a-half years since the U.K.’s referendum on EU membership.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Brexit divorce deal has been agreed in principle by the U.K. Parliament, but is yet to be fully ratified by lawmakers. There have been deep divisions over the deal on offer, and how close the U.K. should stay aligned to the EU after its departure from the bloc. The future of the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland has also been a major sticking point.
The impasse and political chaos in the House of Commons ultimately led to Thursday’s snap general election as Johnson lost the slim majority he held in the U.K.’s lower chamber of Parliament. The vote is the first to be held in the winter months since 1974 and the first December election since 1923.

To put this brutally simply: Exit polling is showing the greatest Conservative victory since the Thatcher years and the greatest Labor defeat since the 1930s, with the situation more or less guaranteed to deliver Brexit. This election is a complete repudiation of liberalism which demonstrates all their claims of power and inevitability are pure hot air.
 

CarlManvers2019

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As an Irish man, it feels weird to say it but I wish only the best for the UK and I think the UK is particularly lucky the communists didn't win, particularly for the Jewish population of the UK. Afterall, I wouldn't wish a communist state on even communists.

A Communist Caliphate, odds are they would persecute even the middle to upper class ones harshly
 

Chaos Marine

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A Communist Caliphate, odds are they would persecute even the middle to upper class ones harshly
Typically speaking, the Jewish people tend to do rather well for themselves and as anyone who's not ultra rich or able to escape them so easily, Labour's tax policies would... redistribute their wealth and the redistribution would be... energetic. Oh well, I suppose I'm just happy that the most popular, far-left anti-Semite party didn't win. They may not be Nazis but they certainly have a few things in common.
 

prinCZess

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Be curious to see how much is attributable to Jeremy Corbyn...Being Jeremy Corbyn with all the Jewish stuff and uncofmortable connections it has...and how much is over the Brexit situation. Seems to be a confluence of factors where concerns about Corbyn paired with perceptions Johnson has 'a plan' (it might be a shitty, shitty plan by many people's reasoning, but it's a plan) drive Labour voters into not showing (just based on anecdotal results of turnout, this doesn't seem to be the case, but that's just from half-listening to the BBC coverage) or outright voting for someone else--even Conservatives.

Also be interesting to see a breakdown of where Conservatives gained. Thus far 'Workington' has been highlighted by the media because of being a long-time Labour district, and from the characterization of it is something of a hardscrabble industrial-center in the veins of Detroit for my American-muddled mind. Which...doesn't seem like the demographic the CON would normally attract, so plays into the above issue as well.
 

Arlos

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Look like a big victory still, but some of the seat that should have switched in the northeast didn’t because of a vote split between Brexit party and conservatives.
as of now, conservative are at +18 seat and labor -14.
Edit: the lib dem are taking a bit of a beating too.
 

The Original Sixth

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This may be the biggest Labour defeat since 1935.





To put this brutally simply: Exit polling is showing the greatest Conservative victory since the Thatcher years and the greatest Labor defeat since the 1930s, with the situation more or less guaranteed to deliver Brexit. This election is a complete repudiation of liberalism which demonstrates all their claims of power and inevitability are pure hot air.


Don't know if it ensures a Brexit now, but the UK really has no choice now. They've pissed away all their leverage with the EU and they'll get a shit deal from the USA for trade.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Don't know if it ensures a Brexit now, but the UK really has no choice now. They've pissed away all their leverage with the EU and they'll get a shit deal from the USA for trade.

I don’t think pragmatism is something they’re really used to, I think even if Conservatives do get elected that are VERY pro-Brexit, it will be delayed for the next terms
 

The Original Sixth

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I don’t think pragmatism is something they’re really used to, I think even if Conservatives do get elected that are VERY pro-Brexit, it will be delayed for the next terms

More than you might think. May, for all of her stupidity, was smart enough to stick her foot in the door as quickly as possible. She was talking about strategic and economic integration with the US before the tariffs really even started. For some reason though it stalled out--I think she go the idea from somewhere or someone that the Brexit thing might not really happen or they might get a good enough deal from the EU to avoid it. I think it really came down to the "I don't want UK's economic death spiral to be my legacy".

EDIT -- I actually wonder if she never intended to leave (at least not fully), but instead hoped to leverage the threat of leaving for more border and immigration control and the leaders of the EU were just not having it or at least not giving enough concessions to make it palpable to the public.

I'm not going to lie though. What comes next for the UK is going to be terrible. There was going to be a massive depression after Brexit in 2016-2017 that would have lasted several years. Now it's going to probably be longer unless the UK pulls a rabbit out of Ireland.
 

JagerIV

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Eh, Brexit has the potential to be a boon. If they have the spine not to sign away their birthright to the EU in the process of it. May never really seemed to truly believe in Brexit and the vision of an independent Britain. Partially because I don't think there was a willingness to understand the kind of combative stance against the EU that was properly necessary: Britain really needs to look at independence as, at least in part, a commitment to breaking much of the EU as another concert of Europe.

That kind of competive, combatant stance was not something May was really prepared to do, and neither was much of the British establishment who were, naturally, frendly to the organization that provided them with a lot of political cover and the opportunity for promotion into cushy EU positions.
 

Guardian Box

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To be honest, I don't ever care if Brexit would turn out to be a a boon or a disaster. At this point it's irrelevant.

Brexit absolutely needs to happen, because they had a vote about it and the people have spoken. Many politicians, officials and other such creatures fought long and hard to subvert the will of the people, and thusly I'd consider Brexit being finally achieved as a victory for democracy.
 

Arch Dornan

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What's the story behind Corbyn?

I'm way out of touch with politics there to know only a certain bunch like Tony Blair for Iraq, Nigel Farage with Brexit and Khan the former taxi driver and shitty manager official of London.

Corbyn is a communist and antisemite while labor has been absorbing new blood that's been distressing it's traditional members?
 

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