United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

Typhonis

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EDIT: Oh, and apparently it was cool for a couple of the police officer to go in and specifically get their kids, but other parents got threatened or put into the dirt for trying to do the same.
Sounds like a class action suit waiting to happen. Wonder what the excuse will be or if the department simply settles out of court.
 

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Alright let me put it this way.
Officers are to protect and serve yes, infact a lot of states and departments have a react first and go in to take out the shooter thing for these.

Then not doing it can actually lead to law suits and the like.
The cops could also be scared of getting claimed of something to get jailed for.

A large variety of things could be the cause hut it doesn't excuse them f3om not going in
 

Sergeant Foley

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Such a stupid cry for attention

In other news, more info is trickling out about the shooting being almost entirely allowed to happen by incompetent police literally doing nothing as the shooter went around. What a amazing look.

My cousin @49ersfootball blocked this jackass. He said that O'Rourke will be lucky to carry 13 counties in November because Abbott's going to crush this little punk!
 

LordsFire

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Yup, controlled entry points, sturdy class doors, and electronic key cards combined with an armed security team will massively reduce events like this at any school that implements it.

No. This would cause more problems than it would solve. It would just turn schools more into prisons, not less, and that will have a mental effect on students. On top of that, thse are the sorts of things that a long-term student would easily find ways to circumvent, due to experience with the system.

The armed security team may act as a deterrent, but even then, a better option is simply to have higher standards for teachers, and to arm them.

Also, after looking around some:


One or two armed Officers in schools are more effective than you might think. Because the media doesn't report on the shootings that they stop.

Keep the bias of what does and doesn't get into national news in mind when you think that 'all cops are too cowardly to do anything' or similar. You're mostly just hearing about when things went catastrophically wrong.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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My issue with armed teachers?

Left leaning Teachers are already raping and grooming students and sending CPS after the parents when they speak up.

You know they'll start shooting their own students for wearing maga hats and shit.

I've only ever seen one or two public school teachers that weren't subnormal IQ hysterics with a vindictive streak a mile wide.
 

Sobek

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This is honestly a perfect "Defund the Police" argument. I am quite fascinated by how quiet they have been.

My guess is their handlers don't want them now that they are in charge, and especially not to point out that the argument to Defund the Police only works with less gun control.

God twitter makes me physically sick. People are honestly trying to play the "all the cops are white and this was a Latino school" to try and push race themes into it. People in replies desperate to blame Abbot because... He didn't put enough gun laws?

Summary for those who don't want to watch a 12 minute video to see two tweets?

"In the wake of this tragedy made possible by incompetent police, don;t let the 19 dead kids distract you from remembering out Saint Floyd of Fentanyl"

 

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No. This would cause more problems than it would solve. It would just turn schools more into prisons, not less, and that will have a mental effect on students.

I'm not sure about that. My high school had everyone funnel into one entrance just because of where the parking lot was relative to the school. It had other entrances but no one used them normally. We turned out ok.

But if it's that much of an issue, then they can have like 2 secured entrances and not 1.

On top of that, thse are the sorts of things that a long-term student would easily find ways to circumvent, due to experience with the system.

That seems very shaky, there are loads of buildings that are already designed to be very secure and difficult to break into regardless of what the attacker knows, and they're not all drab prison like facilities that people hate going into.

Secondly, even if it can be circumvented, adding more barriers that any attacker has to hurdle, any new tools and equipment that he needs to buy, still increases his risk of failure and slows him down.

And third, you're hyperfocusing on schooling shootings where they shooter 7s a student, vs an outsider. That's usually the case for high school shooting, but not elementary schools like this one. Those are the work of outside parties that would have more issues with a properly secured building.
 

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I'm not sure about that. My high school had everyone funnel into one entrance just because of where the parking lot was relative to the school. It had other entrances but no one used them normally. We turned out ok.

But if it's that much of an issue, then they can have like 2 secured entrances and not 1.



That seems very shaky, there are loads of buildings that are already designed to be very secure and difficult to break into regardless of what the attacker knows, and they're not all drab prison like facilities that people hate going into.

Secondly, even if it can be circumvented, adding more barriers that any attacker has to hurdle, any new tools and equipment that he needs to buy, still increases his risk of failure and slows him down.

And third, you're hyperfocusing on schooling shootings where they shooter 7s a student, vs an outsider. That's usually the case for high school shooting, but not elementary schools like this one. Those are the work of outside parties that would have more issues with a properly secured building.
My school had plenty of entrances and I turned out fine.
We also have a very invovled school policebthat os run by the sheriff's office.
They are trained and treated like deputies so that helps.
Add im the fact that if even the threat of a shooting gets brought up our sheriff would show up, and the school would be monitored for weeks.

Helps our county swat trains in the schools to learn then during the summer
 

Sobek

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So the FBI is completely incapable of showing any restraint in their quest to keep Nativist movements out of office.



Fucking Glowies, that's TWO mass shooters in as many weeks...

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That is the first solid proof that grooming might have been involved to make them shoot it up. The glowies are getting too cocky, this is too blatant. They are gonna be found out.
 

Largo

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My job requires me to regularly visit multiple elementary schools throughout the Northern Virginia area. All of them have just one entrance, where you have to be buzzed in by the office ladies. No one thinks it's a prison because of that, and it's ridiculous how the libs are freaking out about this idea. It should be implemented in elementary schools everywhere. Middle/high schools might be more difficult because they are larger, but it is something which can be looked at.

Arming teachers, by contrast, I think is a terrible idea.
 
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I'm reminded of something my oldest daughter ( a police officer) said to a rookie officer. "This job is not for us to be "safe" , it's to serve and protect. It's try to keep all of them safe. If you can't or won't do that maybe you should work at Starbucks." She said this in response to the new officer making ALOT of comments about safety. Please keep in mind that my daughter takes her duty VERY seriously.

And that's the cop I want on my streets.
 

Typhonis

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What sickens me is how politicians are screaming about the sale of assault weapons when the shooter didn't have a fully automatic weapon. Or did he? Was it semi or fully?
 

lloyd007

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What sickens me is how politicians are screaming about the sale of assault weapons when the shooter didn't have a fully automatic weapon. Or did he? Was it semi or fully?
All pols screaming about gun control don't know and don't care if it's an M-777 howitzer or a pop tart eaten into the shape of a gun, any attempt at trying to explain anything is a useless and wasted gesture and the only appropriate response is Uvide's Mayor's response of calling Beta O'Rourke (the most Hispanic man alive) a sick fuck and having him removed from the premises.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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All pols screaming about gun control don't know and don't care if it's an M-777 howitzer or a pop tart eaten into the shape of a gun, any attempt at trying to explain anything is a useless and wasted gesture and the only appropriate response is Uvide's Mayor's response of calling Beta O'Rourke (the most Hispanic man alive) a sick fuck and having him removed from the premises.

That was awesome.

edit- Although I thought it was Abbot.
 

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