Modern equipment yeah.
Slow as hell especially in water
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Aaron Fox
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A tank from my alternate timeline/GATE fic, a 45-ton vehicle using a hydrogen fuel cell powerplant and is armed with 0.50cals and a 12.8cm autoloading tank cannon (using an electro-igniter instead of a more common primer). Capable of 75km/h on the road, clad in laminate armor consisting of a sandwich consisting of pollyalloy, amorphous carbon ceramics, tungsten carbide plates, and cubic boron nitride ceramics, which is surprisingly light compared to the composite array that NATO tanks use. Uses a crew of five (with one of them being an electronic warfare specialist). The base chassis is also used for a variety of weapon systems including SPGs, engineering vehicles, SPSAMs, among others.
It's NBC capable and, while somewhat cramped, is fairly comfortable to work in even in combat conditions.
PsihoKekec
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If it has autoloader then what does the fifth member do? And unless the armor is feather light, you won't be dropping the weight to 45 tons, 50-60 would be more likely.
Aaron Fox
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When the tank was first introduced, the radioman position was retained, largely due to concerns (at the time) of overloading the commander, while these fears were unfounded, several police actions had the radioman become the EW officer and the loader got replaced with a drone operator. The successor of this tank would drop the loader entirely and go with a 4-man crew. It should be noted that this tank was an early Cold War design that got upgraded (and rebuilt) a lot over the decades.
The armor composite used in this machine for the laminate armor utilizes polyalloy, an expensive alloy that is incredibly durable against kinetic attacks. To give you an idea, a plate of roughly 3 centimeters makes you immune to anything less than HMG ammunition while weighing in at about 2kg when just covering the torso (please note, it is not recommended that you wear such an interceptor plate for while the round won't penetrate, you're still going to be thrown about via the energy transfer, there are power armor systems designed to ensure that its users don't get heavily injured/killed in such an event). The laminate armor used on this machine utilizes several plates of this alloy as the main anti-kinetic component, with the thinnest layer being 6cm. This gives the machine the armor capabilities of the M1A2 Abrams for a mere fraction of the weight.
It should be noted that the IFV companion (which shares the same dimensions as the RL Marder 1 IFV) is roughly 36 tons, has a 10-man infantry compartment (that has seatbelts, isn't cramped, and a 2.44m^3 storage compartment), a 3-man crew compartment (with seatbelts and airbags while being not-cramped), the environmental and NBC system to support said 13 people, sensor turrets that use various radars (with backups!) and cameras, a 5TB computer hard drive, several 2.5TB database hard drives, numerous computers to assist the crew in various duties, and armament consisting of fully stabilized 12.7mm HMGs (two in RWS mounts and one as a coaxial) and a 30mm autocannon, a quad-pack ATGM launcher capable of firing TOW 2 equivalents, and two ADS modules using 50mm ADS Missile launchers and 4.7mm ADS guns... with a healthy ammo supply mind you (to give you an idea, the 30mm autocannon's ammo supply is 390 rounds, 65x APHE, 65x APFSDS, 130x HEPF, and 130x HE).
Somua S35 was better.
Char B1 was way to slow and unwieldy.
And the main gun was in a casemate format.
Armor isn't everything when German infantry blow your tracks with a satchel charge or when you see a Flak 18/36 lined up on you.
You also never go into combat with a tank without Infantry.....
The first wouldn't happen then, and the second, wouldn't any tank be fucked by that?
France had very good prototype of Char G medium tank with long 75mm gun and rangefinder.If they pour more money into it,they could made few companies till 1940...and still lost.
All wouid be used by germans .And mass produced.So,it better for everybody that they do not made it real.
All wouid be used by germans .And mass produced.So,it better for everybody that they do not made it real.
Go tell the Russians at Grozny
Even today you dint fo somewhere without infantry to support your sides
Aaron Fox
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... and the Russians got their tanks and attached infantry massacred because of that nugget of foolishness.
One of my more interesting design concepts that I've gotten to visual over the years. A 175 metric ton behemoth with shields, thick slabs of armor, a fusion power plant, an impressive E-War suite utilizing Electronic Counterwave Measures, a coilgun firing a round that (upon impact) causes a 222kg explosion, a PD laser, a plasma blaster, and M2s firing rounds at 3km/s. Made by Mike Doscher, the artist behind quite a few of the MMO RTS End of Nations concept art.
It's a house-sized mountain of fuck-you.
Even with a fusion power plant, mobility is going to be a serious issue for a tank even remotely that big. There's a reason modern tanks have been trying to curtail their growth in size and weight rather than embracing the Bolo school of thought.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Mostly due to most bridges not being designed to handle such weights and the fact that the heavier a tank is the more fuel and maintenance it needs and the more wear and tear it suffers which drives up the cost per mile moved under it's own power
Not gonna lie, the video thumbnail of that high-tech tank barrel? It's something I could see GDI having on a type of light tank, around the time of the Third Tiberium War.
Aaron Fox
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In this case, when your weapons are either near-light speed, light-speed, and 8-12km/s... you'll need a lot of armor material to not have your troops rebel against you for basically spending them like ammunition. When even autocannons can core an M1 from the front, yeah, good luck.
It is a composite barrel gun, oddly enough.
Doomsought
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The thing about war is that it has a goal, and you aren't going to be using weapons that would prevent you from achieving your goals due to excessive collateral damage. Relativistic weapons will only be used far away from anything both sides of the battle care about.
Also, troops don't rebel when their lives are spent like ammunition, see both world wars.
PsihoKekec
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Good night Goodyear! The Era of Yokahama Tires has begun!
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Good night Goodyear! The Era of Yokahama Tires has begun!
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