Israel ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡± State of Israel Thread

WolfBear

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I think that you are obsessed with cheating the law of return to push people into Israel that Israelis wouldn't want, and it's sad. Now stop with these silly questions please.

OK, but just one nitpick: Cheating implies bad faith, which isn't the case here.
 

King Arts

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I think that you are obsessed with cheating the law of return to push people into Israel that Israelis wouldn't want, and it's sad. Now stop with these silly questions please.
Is marrying a Jewish woman to immigrate bad faith though? That's literally what your law allows, also your law would have the product of that union be considerd halachically jewish.
 

WolfBear

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Is marrying a Jewish woman to immigrate bad faith though? That's literally what your law allows, also your law would have the product of that union be considerd halachically jewish.

No, they wouldn't be considered halakhically Jewish if the woman is half-Jewish on her father's side; if on her mother's side, though, then Yes.

And AFAIK, every or almost every country allows people to marry for the sake of immigrating somewhere, though it might also, in some cases, require on to be economically self-sufficient, pass language fluency testing, et cetera:

 

Cherico

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I think that you are obsessed with cheating the law of return to push people into Israel that Israelis wouldn't want, and it's sad. Now stop with these silly questions please.
Or he might be dating a nice Jewish girl in which case I wish our little bear some happiness.
 

King Arts

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Or he might be dating a nice Jewish girl in which case I wish our little bear some happiness.

Yeah wolf forget about that vasectemy stuff, Go get a girl grab those milkers and have some fun.
 

WolfBear

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Or he might be dating a nice Jewish girl in which case I wish our little bear some happiness.

lol I myself already have Israeli citizenship, so I don't actually need to date anyone for it. My non-Jewish maternal uncle did, in fact, need to marry a rather dull half-Jewish woman so that he could immigrate to Israel, as I mentioned above. I really don't blame him; I'd have done the same thing in his shoes. But I'm lucky because I was born in Israel and because my parents could immigrate there without any problems due to my own dad being half-Jewish; we left for the US ten years later, though, but still keep our Israeli citizenship.

Yeah wolf forget about that vasectemy stuff, Go get a girl grab those milkers and have some fun.

Jewish sex is fun, but not the risk of pregnancy!
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
I did date a Jewish girl when I was in Tel Aviv.

Lasted a month.

Mostly because I would be gone back to Italy.

But also because her family wanted one who was an actual member of the tribe of Judah and not just have two Jewish names and if we got serious the babies (yes she was already thinking about that serious relationship) wouldn't be 100% Jewish.

I was like "They are coming out of you, they still will be Jewish! And why the heck are we talking about kids???"
 

WolfBear

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I did date a Jewish girl when I was in Tel Aviv.

Lasted a month.

Mostly because I would be gone back to Italy.

But also because her family wanted one who was an actual member of the tribe of Judah and not just have two Jewish names and if we got serious the babies (yes she was already thinking about that serious relationship) wouldn't be 100% Jewish.

I was like "They are coming out of you, they still will be Jewish! And why the heck are we talking about kids???"

You know, sometimes I wonder if the reason as to why the matrilineal descent rule in Judaism was adopted in the first place was because God allegedly saw 2,000 years into the future and saw the extreme demographic devastation that Soviet Jewish men were going to suffer as a result of World War II as well as the mass intermarriage that would subsequently occur among Soviet Jews and thus wanted to ensure that the maximum number of Soviet children who were products of Jewish-gentile intermarriage would be considered Jewish.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
You know, sometimes I wonder if the reason as to why the matrilineal descent rule in Judaism was adopted in the first place was because God allegedly saw 2,000 years into the future and saw the extreme demographic devastation that Soviet Jewish men were going to suffer as a result of World War II as well as the mass intermarriage that would subsequently occur among Soviet Jews and thus wanted to ensure that the maximum number of Soviet children who were products of Jewish-gentile intermarriage would be considered Jewish.

Do you take God as a Kahanist?
 

GoldRanger

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Is marrying a Jewish woman to immigrate bad faith though? That's literally what your law allows, also your law would have the product of that union be considerd halachically jewish.
There's absolutely no issue with that, you're welcome to come if you marry a Jewish woman (and if you ever do you can throw me a PM). But I'm a bit tired about incessant questions about this one specific topic, especially when the scenarios become more and more esoteric.
 

WolfBear

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WolfBear

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Israel really lacks compassion:


A Ukrainian woman was married to an Israeli and lived there for ten years with her daughter and now the two of them are about to get deported from Israel after her husband's death. Real compassionate! :(
 

PsihoKekec

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Why should states have compassion? If a state does not want permanent immigrants, then it is their right to kick them out.
Also, since they are from Russian occupied part of Ukraine they can receive asylum pretty much anywhere in Europe.
 

ATP

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Israel really lacks compassion:


A Ukrainian woman was married to an Israeli and lived there for ten years with her daughter and now the two of them are about to get deported from Israel after her husband's death. Real compassionate! :(

No,Izrael is one of Putin allies,just like Germany and France.Why should they schelter their kgb ally enemies?
 

WolfBear

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There's absolutely no issue with that, you're welcome to come if you marry a Jewish woman (and if you ever do you can throw me a PM). But I'm a bit tired about incessant questions about this one specific topic, especially when the scenarios become more and more esoteric.

Well, my scenario above was not really that esoteric. It was sufficiently real in the sense that my non-Jewish maternal uncle did just this--specifically marry a half-Jewish woman (Jewish on her father's side)--probably so that he could move to Israel along with her. Their marriage lasted for several years and they had a son together but they eventually divorced and went their separate ways.
 

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