[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps
Don't remember enough about what was going on, but improving relations generally seems useful? More sure of my choice in the first three than the last two
[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
-[X] but gather all the inel we can (I'm laying odds that COMPNOR will lay this at the feet of a rebel operative)
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps **Out long term goal should be to uncouple the 'Empire' as we know it from the factional fighting that the Emperor has fostered. I'm aiming at making the ISB & Stormtrooper Corp & the Navy as the core of this effort. With those three factions behind us, I'm betting the Army and citizens can be gathered in as well. COMPNOR is likely the biggest hurdle followed closely behind anyone attempting to establish their own feifdoms inside any of the 'branches' of our government.
[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
-[X] but gather all the inel we can (I'm laying odds that COMPNOR will lay this at the feet of a rebel operative)
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps
[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
-[X] but gather all the inel we can (I'm laying odds that COMPNOR will lay this at the feet of a rebel operative)
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps
Adhoc vote count started by GuyThatRunsAGame on Jul 6, 2023 at 1:23 PM, finished with 7 posts and 4 votes.
[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
-[X] but gather all the inel we can (I'm laying odds that COMPNOR will lay this at the feet of a rebel operative)
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps
[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps
[X] Don't accuse anyone yet.
-[X] but gather all the intel we can (I'm laying odds that COMPNOR will lay this at the feet of a rebel operative)
[X] Agree to exchange liaisons with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Personal Intelligence Service
[X] Share with Imperial Intelligence
[X] Share with Stormtrooper Corps
You decide that making an accusation is premature, and that simply gathering more information is the better course for now.
You also decide that there is no harm in extending trust towards Imperial Intelligence, and as you meet with the liaison you also hand over the data the ISB forwarded to you. Data your own intelligence personnel have also been granted. The Stormtrooper Corps were also recipients of copies of the information.
With that situation ongoing but not necessitating any immediate further decisions from you, you gather your admirals to present your final draft for how your Navy is going to operate going forward.
First of all, the idea of separating support into its own organization has been floated again, but this time the proposed Imperial Supply Corps would have organic escort capability. Meaning ships up to light cruisers would be included, not just transports and technical vessels. This has dampened some of the worst panic among captains that would be placed in it, but there is still the fact that they wouldn't be officers of the Imperial Navy anymore.
The proponents of this point out that it will allow naval leaders to focus on the actual running of combat vessels and supply will then be able to focus on the smooth running of logistics.
The starfighter corps state that they don't particularly care about what you decide, as their spares, munitions and provisions are already carried by another branch and there has been no problems with that yet, but their branch is very young and that might change.
[] Found the Imperial Supply Corps - The revised proposal has merit that the old one lacked, and you agree to found a new branch of the military.
Imperial Supply Corps founded as a Faction
Imperial Supply Corps Influence +1
Imperial Supply Corps Relations +1
Imperial Navy +1 Relations
All Support Ships & Transports transferred from Navy to Supply Corps
-[] Write In what escorts should be handed to the Supply Corps
[] Keep it Organic to the Navy - While the proposal has changed, the core of the matter is still something you can't agree to, it is important to run your own logistics, so you don't lose track of your materiel situation.
No change
Secondly, the Imperial Navy has raised the issue of an organic Navy Marines force, rather than relying on Stormtroopers or Imperial Army, this would allow the Navy more freedom in how they conduct operations, meaning that boarding actions or landings need not be inter-service operations.
The Imperial Army would prefer to be the sole ground combat arm of the Empire, but has begrudgingly agreed that there are very few situations where they would be called in that any organic marine complement of a naval vessel would suffice for.
The Stormtrooper Corps' stance on the matter is that there would of course still be a Stormtrooper complement onboard any larger ship, but the size of it is entirely up to you. They will fight or guard where and when Imperial authority says, and are largely indifferent to if someone else fights elsewhere. If you decide the Navy should have marines, it's because the fighting doesn't require Stormtroopers.
[] Agree to allow Navy Marines - This has been a long standing desire of the Imperial Navy, and even the Republic Navy before them. That you have served in both institutions have in no way any bearing on the fact that allowing a faster response to issues is a good thing.
Stormtrooper Complement of Imperial Navy replaced with Marine complement.
Imperial Navy Relations +1
Imperial Navy Influence +1
--[] Stormtrooper Founding Cadre - The Stormtroopers have very high requirements, physical, mental as well as ideological, and the fact of the matter is that the amount of time a human can serve as a Stormtrooper is severely limited. However, these highly trained and experienced troops could instead of being transferred to teaching positions or retired be used as a founding cadre for the Imperial Navy Marines. This will rob your academy of one years worth of new instructors, but result in a more aggressive and decisive marines skilled in shock trooper tactics.
Mutually Exclusive with Train from the Ground Up
--[] Army Trooper Founding Cadre - The Army has a larger span of ages than the Stormtrooper Corps, though of course the vast majority of the actual combat service ranks are filled with young men. The new Navy Marines could use the veterans from the Army to found the core of their new ranks, with those that would otherwise go on to train new Army recruits at the academy instead being the new marines. This would of course mean that this years crop of instructors for the academy instead becomes marines, but it would result in marines with extensive knowledge of how to put their heels in the ground and dig in.
Mutually Exclusive with Train from the Ground Up
--[] Train from the Ground Up - Instead of skimming the retirees from the other branches, the Academy will train new marines from raw recruits. Although this will take some time, and mean implementation of the new organization will be delayed for a while, it also means they will be a blank slate.
Mutually Exclusive with Stormtrooper Founding Cadre and Army Trooper Founding Cadre.
[] Do not allow Navy Marines - While the navy has wanted its own marines since the Republic was a thing, the way things work right now are that way for a reason. And because of that, there will be no changes to that in this instance.
No Change
The third point on the agenda is determining how independent the Imperial Navy will be. With the Navy of course preferring a free hand in how they handle any tasks you give them. This would be more of you handing them overarching objectives, with the details being on them to handle.
The Imperial Starfighter Corps, Imperial Navy, and those prospectively tagged as leading an eventual Imperial Supply Corps of course also want the same treatment should you decide upon that path.
With the expanding duties of your office, this would allow you to focus more on the political and cultural aspects of your new domain.
[] - Grant Fleet Admiral Delste powers of Acting High Admiral - Granting these powers is allowing him command of your navy, with you simply handing him overarching directives for the navy to follow. Of course, you still hold the actual rank, he will simply be exercising its powers for you. This is of course, like all such powers, theoretically yours to retract at any time. Of course, your flagship and its escorts are still yours to command personally.
All Admiral Subordinated transferred to Imperial Navy
Imperial Navy Influence +2
Imperial Navy Relations +3
--[] - Write In, Moff's Flagship & Escorts, these will be unavailable for normal Navy use.
[] - Retain Command of the Imperial Navy - You'd prefer to keep personal command over your forces. And although Delste and the Navy are reliable and proven, there's just no reason to dilute power.
No Change
With the political end of the reforms handled, the next decision is regarding the organization of the Navy. The final proposals before you are as follows.
[] - Keep As it Is - This proposal is extremely conservative, and put forward mostly for it to be present as a consideration. The only people who'd like it overall is COMPNOR, as a sign of normalcy and business as usual.
No Change
COMPNOR Relations +1
[] - Split into Task Forces - This proposal is based on the Imperial-class supported by two Heavy Cruisers, with assorted screening ships, or equivalents to these ships as availability allows. This is probably the most flexible configuration, and is a credible force against most threats, at worst holding out until reinforcements can arrive. The only problem arises when high force concentrations are required, as gathering together the task forces takes some time. This doctrine would mean Systems Admirals would command essentially the same size of forces as before, with Fleet Admiral becoming a purely administrative rank.
[] - Split into Fortress Fleets and Mobile Fleets - This proposal positions large concentrations of forces in strategic locations, based around Heavy Cruisers and screens, with no real expectation of moving them. The real heavy hitting ships however, the Star Destroyers and larger as well as their screens, will be in mobile fleets and used for offensive operations and reinforcing the defensive fortress fleets as needed. The Fortress Fleets would be commanded by Fleet Admirals, and split into lesser forces commanded by Systems Admirals. The Mobile Fleets would be directly commanded by Fleet Admirals.
[] - Write In - Really, whatever you feel like within reason, the reorganization roll was a critical success.
With the organizational goals set, the actual allocation of forces is the next step. As well as determining what to mothball.
[] - Write in, I'd prefer if it's formatted as in the Treadmark "Info - Fleet Assets" as that eases readability. But of course, adapted for the appropriate organizational choice. Reserve and Mothball don't need to be organized into smaller units, just put reserve ships into reserve and mothball ships into mothball. You could theoretically scrap ships as well, but, you know, why?
Reserve has x0.5 Upkeep
Mothball has x0.1 Upkeep
For what ships are available, see Threadmark "Info - Total Fleet Asset Inventory"
snip Lol, sorry for the bad math there, I was in a hurry and didn't have time to add the sum up. I'd add the Evakmars, the SpecNavs and swap out the Carracks.
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Task Force 1
1x Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (1x4 TIE/LN squadrons*, 1x1 TIE/sa squadron*, 1x1 TIE/br squadron*)
2x Victory II-class Heavy Cruisers (2x2 TIE/LN Squadrons*)
8x Tartan-class Patrol Cruisers
Fortress Fleet 1 - Defence Force 1 (With one Fleet containing between three and twelve Forces)
3x Victory II-class Heavy Cruisers (3x2 TIE/LN Squadrons*)
6x Carrack-class Light Cruisers (6x0.33 TIE/LN squadrons*)
12x Vigil-class Corvettes
Vote Effects
Relations Stormtrooper Corps +1
Relations Imperial Intelligence +2
Influence Imperial Intelligence +1
Personal Intelligence Service gain +10 to Actions targeting Imperial Intelligence
Personal Intelligence Service gains +10 to Actions targeting COMPNOR
Imperial Intelligence gain +10 to Actions targeting Personal Intelligence Service
Action: Investigate Bombing Locked in for Personal Intelligence Service for Next Turn
A/N: Finally a proper and comprehensive reorganization vote. That critical success was fortunate, as denying "we really want this" things won't actually hurt relations.
