Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[ATP]

This should be up the Ukrainians, not the Americans

Indeed.And since they choosed to fight,not become lesser moscovites,it is their decision.
Remember,Putin started war beliving that ukrainians just drob rifles and welcome his thugs.
USA belived,that Zelensky would run and send plane to get him.

Yet,they are all still fighting.Weapons without humans do not fight.
If ukrainians do not want remain ukrainians,war would end arleady.
And,if KGBstan knew how to fight,they would win ,too.

You want blame somebody? blame putin for starting war beliving that non-existing ukrainian just drop their weapons,and being too stupid to win.
Becouse with his resources,even i,amateur,would arleady conqer Ukraine.

 

[Blasterbot]

I'm pretty sure he's not inheriting the family estate. I'd have disowned the bastard after his stunt back in his college days. His mother bailing him out has only encouraged his deplorable behavior. I fucking hate junkies. The boy is almost Russian "Slav Style" with his antics. Crokodil snorting, crackheads!

he is the only son left and his sister is also pretty fucked in the head. Whatever Biden did to his kids absolutely ruined them.

 

[Husky_Khan]

I hate how hard they are scrubbing shit from the internet.

Used to have a link to whitehouse own open to the public video camera where I isolated a clip of him sniffing a little girl (who has a very uncomfortable expression) while whispering some very inappropriate things to her (had to max out the volume to make it out. and still missed some parts. but it was definitely sex stuff).

even still, there are some compilations of joe sniffing little girls, if you just search for it. but, they are constantly purging them.

low quality. and has few views. youtube will delete it again soonish.

Do they not have sniffing compilations on Rumble or Odysee?

That sounded weird to say...

 

[Bacle]

Well I'll have to see that evidence. Because at this point anything to do with American politics is tainted.

Your group of posters constantly harping about Biden being a Russian and Chinese stooge seems to fly in contravention to how badly relations with those dictatorships have broken down. Sanctions and proxy wars have escalated this term. The Russian and Chinese economic activity has been slowed badly. The outright simping (I think I used that term right. Correct me if I'm wrong) for Russia I've seen on this forum and others like SB is disgusting.

Eh, the House GOP has the records of his families bank transactions with China, and the Burisma stuff with the UKR president before Zelensky.

Make no mistake, Biden is a compromised, pedo-inclined senile old coot who should be in dementia care or prison, not the Oval Office.

It's just the GOP opposition to Biden has decided that half of the way to do it is to oppose helping Ukraine for what amounts to partisan reasons, instead of harassing Biden about not doing enough to help Ukraine; which would have been the smart play, but GOP base is more about kneejerk contrarianism to anything the Left does now, instead of critical thinking about issues that should be non-partisan (which is what support for Ukraine should be).

One can oppose what Russia is doing in their invasion of Ukraine, and oppose the POTUS who coup'd/stole his way into office in 2020, at the same time. Thinking someone can only feel one way or the other, instead of opposing both Putin and Biden, is part of the disconnect in the media spaces.

 

[Terthna]

Yup, useful idiots, people with personal or other group-level grudges and outright bots and paid shills galore.

Don't act like you're not part of the problem, considering your constant efforts to antagonize and belittle everyone you disagree with.

 

[Bacle]

Looks like Bulgaria has been having a string of odd explosions and poisonings that may be connected to Russian sabotage actions, due to Bulgaria's part in assisting Ukraine with weapons production.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

And how isn't it? Can't allied leaders talk, give advice and know each other's opinions on things?

To the last Ukrainian....

US 'firmly opposed' to ceasefire between Russia, Ukraine; 'Peace initiative unacceptable'

Kirby insisted that any peace initiative for Ukraine that is endorsed by Russia's President Putin and his steadfast ally Xi Jinping will be rejected by the US.

www.republicworld.com

 

[Tiamat]

To the last Ukrainian....

US 'firmly opposed' to ceasefire between Russia, Ukraine; 'Peace initiative unacceptable'

Kirby insisted that any peace initiative for Ukraine that is endorsed by Russia's President Putin and his steadfast ally Xi Jinping will be rejected by the US.

www.republicworld.com

The Ukrainians haven’t shown any interest in a ceasefire at the moment, and any discussion of one would have to involve them. Please note the actual transcript Kirby states at the end he wishes that Xi would reach out and discuss such a matter with Zelensky first.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/19/nscs_john_kirby_china_and_russia_are_chafing_against_the_us-led_international_rules-based_order.html

 

[mrttao]

instead of harassing Biden about not doing enough to help Ukraine; which would have been the smart play

Trump needs to run on supporting Ukraine if congress decides to help stop other social programs in the US. As well as forcing cingress to agree because either way it will make the dems and rinos look bad if they don't agree

Source: trust me bro

According to you two the american people think biden is not doing enough. And any republican should run on doing more for ukraine.

literally first result when searching it

More than four-in-ten Republicans now say the U.S. is providing too much aid to Ukraine

The share of Americans who say the U.S. is providing too much aid to Ukraine has steadily increased since the start of the war.

www.pewresearch.org

Pew Research. which is a big name I see often alongside gallop.

The "USA does too much for ukraine" percent has been drastically increasing every month.

As of jan 2023 it was:
Total:
Too much: 26%
Just right: 31%
Not enough: 20%

Republican:
Too much: 40%
Just right: 24%
Not enough: 17%

Democrat:
Too much: 15%
Just right: 40%
Not enough: 23%

So, even if we do not account for the fact it is now march and the trend should skew things even further towards the too much line.

Your claims that the overwhelming majority of americans (especially of the non russian shill / KGB spy variety) think america needs to do more for ukraine is false. that is in fact the smallest % of actual americans.
Most americans think support "is just right"

Furthermore. the claim that republicans specifically should run on "biden didn't do enough. we will do more" is even more laughably wrong.

 

[mrttao]

Do they not have sniffing compilations on Rumble or Odysee?

That sounded weird to say...

I forgot those sites exist...
which is odd since I am running a hosting node.

Yea. they got biden sniffing videos. not best quality though

 

[Marduk]

To the last Ukrainian....

US 'firmly opposed' to ceasefire between Russia, Ukraine; 'Peace initiative unacceptable'

Kirby insisted that any peace initiative for Ukraine that is endorsed by Russia's President Putin and his steadfast ally Xi Jinping will be rejected by the US.

www.republicworld.com

You would be surprised to hear how many Ukrainians would pick that than being Russia's serfs again.

 

[Cherico]

You would be surprised to hear how many Ukrainians would pick that than being Russia's serfs again.

To be fair to them Russians are just assholes to their subject peoples.

 

[Typhonis]

To be fair to them Russians are just assholes to their subject peoples.

Russians are assholes to fellow Russians.

 

[Cherico]

Russians are assholes to fellow Russians.

The country basically runs on Vodka spite and oil and the oils new.

 

[Agent23]

Don't act like you're not part of the problem, considering your constant efforts to antagonize and belittle everyone you disagree with.

Maybe because I see them for what they are, that being establishment tools, useful idiots and people with a variety of axes to grind like our dear friends the local Eternal Poles and Muh Empire-minded Britbongs that are still salty they did not manage get beyond a stalemate in the Crimean War and had to agree to a peace treaty.

Oh, and that is before we get into the outright schizos and racist anti-white 'that is you but what am I' crybullies and cowards that I have had to deal with.
You know, the same ones that were bemoaning the fact that I had not been aborted and that outright demanded that I be banned while appealing their bans which they got for being racist geezers.😏


😂

 

[Agent23]

It is.
We are supporting thier decision

Ukraine is basically dependent on US/EU money, if the US/EU turn the spigots then Ukraine will fold within days.

 

[ATP]

Maybe because I see them for what they are, that being establishment tools, useful idiots and people with a variety of axes to grind like our dear friends the local Eternal Poles and Muh Empire-minded Britbongs that are still salty they did not manage get beyond a stalemate in the Crimean War and had to agree to a peace treaty.

Oh, and that is before we get into the outright schizos and racist anti-white 'that is you but what am I' crybullies and cowards that I have had to deal with.
You know, the same ones that were bemoaning the fact that I had not been aborted and that outright demanded that I be banned while appealing their bans which they got for being racist geezers.😏


😂

Said Bulgar beliving to be slav who want protection of long dead Russia from other turks.
And could not undarstandt,why some slavic nations do not want soviet yoke again,even when said soviets are partially slavic,too.

For exactly the same reason,why you do not want protection of Turkey.Becouse they protected your nation exactly the same,like Moscov want protect us.

P.S US are woke,and could sell us to soviets again.But - they would not genocide us.That is difference.

 

[Agent23]

Said Bulgar beliving to be slav who want protection of long dead Russia from other turks.

One, it is Turcic not Turk.
Two, there were more Slavs than Bulgars(which, fun fact, we are not sure if they were entirely Turcic or Indo-Iranian in origins with one putting the center of the Bulgarian homeland in Central Asia)in the 1st Bulgarian Empire also, we have Thracian roots, too.
Culturally we are pretty much Slavs, also, there is genetic research saying we are Slavs,asI have said before:

What are you nemec?

And could not undarstandt,why some slavic nations do not want soviet yoke again,even when said soviets are partially slavic,too.

For exactly the same reason,why you do not want protection of Turkey.Becouse they protected your nation exactly the same,like Moscov want protect us.

I would rether deal with the Turks than with Brussels, Paris, London, Washington or our stab in the back other neighbors.

P.S US are woke,and could sell us to soviets again.But - they would not genocide us.That is difference.

Dude, no one wants to genocide you, Russia has plenty of leibensraum and there is nothing they want from Polish territory.

 

[Allanon]

Sadly, it is not as simple as "one day Putin said 'hey, I'll invade the Ukraine!'"

The events leading up to this is a complex web of events taking place over the span of decades.

In other words, the Ukrainian civilians were doomed to be caught up in this before many of them were even born. Just as they were during The Holodomor.

The human race will never change. Ever.

 

[AmosTrask]

the House GOP has the records of his families bank transactions with China, and the Burisma stuff with the UKR president before Zelensky.

There's the thing. All your politicians did business with China or did business with corporations that moved into China. The reports your FBI and Homeland Security made public showed a large number of politicians on both parties with funds that eventually led to known and many unknown CCP owned shell companies or agents.

Singling out a single candidate and scapegoating them for something everyone in your government was encouraged to do as part of the democratization efforts in China is dirty pool amigo. It's also highly transparent attempt to shift blame to individuals rather than taking responsibility for what both parties did in concert. Welcome to Soviet politics America. Now you can fuck yourselves over while appearing united publicly. Except you guys forgot the appearance of unity part of the plan.

Your government believed until Xi's second term that you could destroy Communism in China through free enterprise. What did Xi do? He broke his promises and started aggressive expansion and regression to Mao era policies. China is now closed. And yet Wallstreet is now funneling money into bailing out China's crumbling economy once again.

I hope Putin loses bad and Russia fractures. I'd rather deal with the 100 ethnic nations than one gigantic asshole Russia. Although for that to work China has to be broken as well. Or they'd move into those successor states.