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Zachowon

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Humor is all well and good, but in reality both would be a cause for invasion. The difference is that killing a general (or a leading scientist in a nuclear program for that matter) has a concrete military benefit, while killing a rando doesn't, it's just random violence.
We wouldn't invade for an assassination
 

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The point is moot. You seriously don't understand how attacking a military or military-adjacent target differs from attacking random civilians? The latter is a war crime, for one.
I am just saying this stuff was going to happen with both of you
 

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And what I'm saying is that, seeing as Israel hit legitimate wartime targets but Iran tried to hit random civilians, Israel has plenty to complain about.
Which still was act of terror.And,are you sure that those rich jews REALLY was not Mossad ? becouse if they worked with your secret services,they become legitimate target.
Becouse rules are the same for everybody.Everything which Izrael did to others,others could do to Izrael.
 
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Another Iranian assassination plot thwarted, this time in Cyprus:

Good for you.But was iranian attacking jews before you killed those iranian scientists ? becouse if not,then you reap what you sow.And,if that jew cooperated with your secret services,he was legitimate target.
 

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Good for you.But was iranian attacking jews before you killed those iranian scientists ?
Yes. Pre-1979 Israel and Iran had good relations. Then for "reasons" those relations turned into a Cold War a few years later. And it wasn't the Israeli government that had some dramatic shift in government and policy...
 

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The difference is Israel is careful to hit either high placed personnel in the Iranian nuclear program or military. Iran is hitting back by attacking random rich Israelis, not anyone actually relevant to the shadow war. That, to me, is what pushes their acts beyond the thin line into terrorism.
''random rich Israelis'' who happen to finance and support Israeli military and scientific endeavors.. I'm glad you have a ''line'' you agree with, but any Iranian line doesn't matter. You think it's okay to target the military and scientists of a nation that you have not declared war upon, but the ''businessmen'' is where things become immoral? They are acceptable targets just the same.
 

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What I find interesting @Sir 1000 is that you seem to be saying it's OK for Iran to do this but not for Israel...

Am I misunderstanding you?

If I'm not getting your point, then what is it?
 

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''random rich Israelis'' who happen to finance and support Israeli military and scientific endeavors.. I'm glad you have a ''line'' you agree with, but any Iranian line doesn't matter. You think it's okay to target the military and scientists of a nation that you have not declared war upon, but the ''businessmen'' is where things become immoral? They are acceptable targets just the same.
Nations in the modern age don't declare war at all. Iran and Israel have been in a defacto state of war for many years now. Yes, that's how the international laws of war work, businessmen are out of bounds, military targets are not.
 

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What I find interesting @Sir 1000 is that you seem to be saying it's OK for Iran to do this but not for Israel...

Am I misunderstanding you?

If I'm not getting your point, then what is it?
No,he said that iranian had the same right to target jews like Izrael had right to target iranians.
About @Husky_Khan - Izrael teached shah secret police how to torture other Iranians,many of survivors becomed member of new goverment.I undarstandt their actions.
About @GoldRanger - he support his country unlawful actions,but condemn other countries unlawfull actions.Pitifull - either we have one law for everybody,or no law at all.
 

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Nations in the modern age don't declare war at all. Iran and Israel have been in a defacto state of war for many years now. Yes, that's how the international laws of war work, businessmen are out of bounds, military targets are not.
You do realize scientists are not valid targets in war either as they are civilians? It sounds like you are having a double standard for Israel where they can attack Iran’s civilians but not the other way.
 

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Scientists developing weapons are arms manufacurers, thus legitimate targets.
So would Iran assainating the CEO of Lockheed be ok? Arms manufacturers are businesses men blowing up factories is only acceptable during a declared war. And assassins should only be sent after military officials and enemy politicians. Not business men.
 

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You do realize scientists are not valid targets in war either as they are civilians? It sounds like you are having a double standard for Israel where they can attack Iran’s civilians but not the other way.
Scientists running a military nuclear program are indeed valid targets, as are any assets attached to such a program.
 

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So would Iran assainating the CEO of Lockheed be ok? Arms manufacturers are businesses men blowing up factories is only acceptable during a declared war. And assassins should only be sent after military officials and enemy politicians. Not business men.
There is not really such a thing as "declared war". There were barely any declarations of war since the end of WWII. The US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for example, were both undeclared. Declarations are irrelevant and don't matter, Israel and Iran are in a de facto state of hostilities, with military casualties on both sides.

A scientist running a government nuclear program is not a businessman. The Israelis Iran targeted in Cyprus, coincidentally, are.
 

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I don't think the US has officially Declared War since WWII. I don't even think we Declared War in Korea.

Thus the government's favorite past time of "Police Actions."

But we've somehow sufferred around 88,000 combat casualties deaths since WWII.
 

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Scientists running a military nuclear program are indeed valid targets, as are any assets attached to such a program.
Then,according to your logic, any country could assasin Izraeli scientists running your country nuclear program.
 
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