Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

[Marduk]

I'll be real, the only reason we haven't is because there is worry they already have the bomb, and disguised it as an a NK nuke test.

What I was told is that one of the nuke sniffers planes found an anomalous isotope ratio in on of the tests, distinct from the other NK tests, and the US goes to a lot of expense to know which mine and which reactor any fissile material came from.

If Iran had done this, and had successfully tested a nuke in NK, it would explain a lot of the moves DC has made in regards to Iran over the past decade or so, particularly the Iran Nuke Deal and why Iran has been allowed to get away with so much shit.

Nah, it was always shady political lobbying. What would be the point of giving Iran favors for a promise of not developing nukes... when you know they already developed them and have zero intention of giving them up? It would be even more ridiculous than giving them those favors for a promise they are unlikely to keep.

 

[PeaceMaker 03]

So wondering what is going on over Iranian airspace.

 

[Poe]

I'll be real, the only reason we haven't is because there is worry they already have the bomb, and disguised it as an a NK nuke test.

What I was told is that one of the nuke sniffers planes found an anomalous isotope ratio in on of the tests, distinct from the other NK tests, and the US goes to a lot of expense to know which mine and which reactor any fissile material came from.

If Iran had done this, and had successfully tested a nuke in NK, it would explain a lot of the moves DC has made in regards to Iran over the past decade or so, particularly the Iran Nuke Deal and why Iran has been allowed to get away with so much shit.

The only place I've ever heard this was from you a month or so ago, so I'm not inclined to believe this is a serious consideration and think the real reason is that Joe Biden has been labelled a war monger and will do anything to avoid being unable to deny such a thing. Trump is already hitting him with the "No New Wars were started under me," at least right now Biden can say he didn't actively start any of them. Biden is smack dab in the middle of sunk cost fallacy and doesn't have it in him to jump out.

 

[Bacle]

Nah, it was always shady political lobbying. What would be the point of giving Iran favors for a promise of not developing nukes... when you know they already developed them and have zero intention of giving them up? It would be even more ridiculous than giving them those favors for a promise they are unlikely to keep.

The nuke deal had a lot of haggling over amounts Iran could keep of certain isotopes in their stockpiles.

Maybe the hope was to keep Iran from getting enough weapons grade material to make/maintain any thing other than maybe single digit bombs at one time.

The only place I've ever heard this was from you a month or so ago, so I'm not inclined to believe this is a serious consideration and think the real reason is that Joe Biden has been labelled a war monger and will do anything to avoid being unable to deny such a thing. Trump is already hitting him with the "No New Wars were started under me," at least right now Biden can say he didn't actively start any of them. Biden is smack dab in the middle of sunk cost fallacy and doesn't have it in him to jump out.

I heard it through a game of telephone on X a while back, was only recently I learned it was the nuke sniffer isotope ratio which was the first clue something might have happened.

It just slots neatly into the actions of the DC blob towards Iran, the whole nuke deal bit, the haggling over the amounts in the nuke deal, and why the powers in DC are so afraid to actually confront Iran directly.

It'd be nice if that weird test in NK wasn't Iranian, and just something funky homegrown to NK.

 

[Marduk]

The nuke deal had a lot of haggling over amounts Iran could keep of certain isotopes in their stockpiles.

Maybe the hope was to keep Iran from getting enough weapons grade material to make/maintain any thing other than maybe single digit bombs at one time.

The fundamental problem with such deals, which is why they were terrible and Trump terminated them, is that it is very hard to the other side to verify if Iran is actually keeping their part of the deal (Iran was clear it will not enable any real way to fix that which should be considered enough of a hint in itself), and even harder to prove it to a point of convincing the political lobby supporting the deal that this isn't working and Iran should be punished for breaking it. Long story short, it was always a sucker's deal.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Best possible timeline.



Iranime and Persiaboos must enter the lexicon of popular culture terminology.

 

[King Arts]

Best possible timeline.



Iranime and Persiaboos must enter the lexicon of popular culture terminology.

@Marduk

If this actually works then I support your war with Iran.

 

[prinCZess]

Best possible timeline.



Iranime and Persiaboos must enter the lexicon of popular culture terminology.

*years in the future, JSDF briefing Room*
"Gentlemen, this is Iran's new seasonal rom-com characters."
*pounds table*
"WE CANNOT AFFORD A WAIFU GAP!"

 

[Bacle]

Best possible timeline.



Iranime and Persiaboos must enter the lexicon of popular culture terminology.

There are far, far worse outcomes than this.

A couple nukes on a few hardened Iranian military assets, PGMs for the rest, and then the biggest, most comprehensive aid plan since the Marshall Plan, and Iran can get out from under the Ayatollah and IRGC.

The Crown Prince of Iran is still alive, and I think maybe it's time to pave the way to for him to return to his throne with a few dozen bombing runs on the IRGC and their assets.

It would be real nice if we could find a way to ground their legacy F-14's, or whole remnant western air force, so we don't have to blow them up when the time comes, and can put them in museums instead.

 

[Marduk]