Right to Repair - A Discussion

Bear Ribs

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Dude, that G-Shock watch is bulky rubber bumpers around a sealed steel inner case.
You are completely wrong. I own a GA-400 (Though not in that godawful color scheme) and have been in its guts numerous times.



As you can clearly see, its case is solid plastic with metal screws through the back that go directly into said plastic. So do you intend to retract your BS statement or continue to profess obvious lies?

Your objection is nonsensical. The electronic components of the watch are small enough that it's easy to insulate them from the steel case. The electronic components of a phone are much, much bulkier.
Lies and cope.

A quick look at replacing a sealed phone's battery shows otherwise.



The gent has to jump through some insane hoops to get it open but you can clearly see a dearth of exposed electronics once he finally gets that case cracked open. In fact there appears to be an entire second plastic case inside the first case that would provide nearly all the insulation needed even if the first case were metal. There would be no issues wrapping some steel around it and adding a gram or two of plastic to cover any tiny bits and bobs left.

This is not even slightly true. There are numerous bulky, ruggedized phones on the market, but they are rarely purchased outside of business users, especially industrial business.
All of which have inferior features, a great many are bare-bones models designed for emergencies that can't do anything but call. Why?

Well, there are some interesting facts to look at.


79% of Americans add a protective case to toughen up their phones. This is an exceedingly weird situation if people actually want slim lightweight phones, because somehow we have to believe that people want these thin, light, easily broken phones yet four out of five people immediately go and wrap some armor around it to make it bulkier and harder to break. A supermajority of users quite obviously don't want those phones and are doing their best to mod the phones into what they do want, tougher bulkier ones they can't get, yet the market is not accommodating them, which is deeply suspicious and suggests market manipulation, possibly by a cabal or oligopoly.

Technically true, but only technically. The near-totality of digital wristwatches other than smartwatches use silver oxide coin-cell batteries, with a solid majority de facto standardizing on the SR626SW.
No, they absolutely don't. I changed watch batteries and repaired broken watches for a living for close to ten years.

It's exceedingly unlikely any digital wristwatch would use an SR626SW (also called a 377 because even the names of watch batteries aren't standardized for the same battery). I can't say it's physically impossible but I'd be extremely surprised and have never encountered one. Those don't have enough voltage (They're commonly used in cheap Chinese watches but are uncommon everywhere else, whatever site you got your data off misled you), nearly all digital watches need one with at least twice the voltage of a 377. The G-Shock I showed above uses a pair of 399s because a single one can't give them enough charge (and they're bigger than 377s), you certainly wouldn't be able to run one off of a 377.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
79% of Americans add a protective case to toughen up their phones. This is an exceedingly weird situation if people actually want slim lightweight phones, because somehow we have to believe that people want these thin, light, easily broken phones yet four out of five people immediately go and wrap some armor around it to make it bulkier and harder to break. A supermajority of users quite obviously don't want those phones and are doing their best to mod the phones into what they do want, tougher bulkier ones they can't get, yet the market is not accommodating them, which is deeply suspicious and suggests market manipulation, possibly by a cabal or oligopoly.
My favorite smartphone family is the Apple 5/5S/SE. Just the right size for your pocket and an absolutely sturdy brick compared to most others.

Here's how we've managed to break a one: drunkenly dropped into a glass of chocolate milk and vodka before being left there for a few hours. The phone had a bent frame the screen wasn't completely attached to anymore when its spirit got sent to hardware heaven.

The others just wore out due to age, although I do have an old 5S with a massively outdated version iOS and a cracked screen that still works.
 

bintananth

behind a desk

Similarly,

The Hardware Reference Manual for a Cray-1 is available online as a .pdf

It's about 200 pages long and detailed enough that an engineer might be able to to replicate* one from scratch using just that.

* Building an exact duplicate would require using a refrigerant which has been banned due to environmental regulations everywhere.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Welp. I hope you New Yorkers are happy. Throw it onto the pile of "you deserve what you vote for".


I'm not sure that's the lesson here, considering that the issue is that the New York state government neutered the bill after it had already been voted on. Rather, it's that your vote will be ignored in favor of what the establishment wants.
 

posh-goofiness

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Yes and no. Yeah, they voted for the legislators that passed the bill. But that doesn't excuse decade after decade of voting for the politicians that made the current system possible. It doesn't excuse voting in a governor who does something like this. And it doesn't excuse voting for their legislators who rubber stamps her amendments.
 

Cherico

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Unexpected awesome win on this front.

actually not unexpected at all.

Fucking with farmers ability to grow the food you need to live is a hideously bad idea as in it can end your civilization bad idea. Any sane society has a healthy respect for the people who grow your food.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Honestly I was starting to think that farmers would be better off getting old equipment working again and going back to using that. So many of them are in ridiculous amounts of debt thanks to how expensive the new stuff is.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Honestly I was starting to think that farmers would be better off getting old equipment working again and going back to using that. So many of them are in ridiculous amounts of debt thanks to how expensive the new stuff is.
Farmers would definitely benefit from reducing how much wired, software driven machinery they use and making so as few people have a hook into their systems and equipment as possible.
 

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