Movies Resident Evil Movie & Netflix Series

JagerIV

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Just one movie.

But ya know, gotta cram as much as you can in so you can set up the cinematic universe to follow!

Okay, so its only at this point aproved for a Netflix, movie, their just pre-emtively calling it a series? As like a series of movies? Or are they hoping this movie will act as a pilot for a TV series on Netflix?

Because reading the Wesker Plotline, it sounds like welcome to Racoon city and the Wesker daughter thing are two separate projects.
 

Husky_Khan

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Zachowon

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Yeah. I was initially wondering about why they were casting all of the young ladies... I mean certainly there are a lot of young ladies in the first Resident Evil games... there's Sherry Birkin, Rebecca Chambers... the uhhh errrr Mayor's Daughter.... and news to everyone... Albert Wesker has two teenage daughters as well! Plus there's the orphanage which featured more prominently in the remake.

I suppose Albert Wesker's backstory and character development has been pretty sparse as far as the video games are concerned. There was some sympathy to be generated with him in the first game, as his revelation as a double agent wasn't until later in the game and before then he was somewhat helpful. But giving him two teenaged daughters does seem out of left field. Maybe the idea was to flesh out the character more... play out those work vs. family and supervillainy vs. ohana themes we all love so much and in all honestly I'm fine with all of that.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuutt.... this movie is already covering two Resident Evil games... and in the opinions of many, probably the best two when it comes to survival horror from the series if not of the series in general. And you can still get that teenager POV from someone like Rebecca Chambers, or Mayor's daughter... or Sherry Birkin (though she's a little young for teenagery) and so on and so forth that above all else, the inclusion of Wesker's "daughters" just sounds like it'll muddle the whole thing up.

Maybe if it was divided into two movies it would actually be better. But that is the ultimate problem and just like with the recent Mortal Kombat remake, they're not trying to make a good and faithful adaption but launch a new franchise and hopeful cinematic universe. Gotta cram it all in there, make it young and appealing to as many people as possible, not just those interested in the RE franchise itself as if others somehow cannot be persuaded to watch this film without watering it down and muddling it up.

Hopefully I'm wrong. I'm sure there is a way to write it up and still make it a solid movie, if not as faithful an adaption a Resident Evil movie should be, but... the issue does seem in doubt.
We got plenty of character development about wesker throughout the canon timellnie for RE.
A whole game where you play as him as well. A WII exclusive rail shooter.

The only thing I like about this is the casting of Chris and Claire, and the outfits. I hate everything else
 

Husky_Khan

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An HD Trailer has been released for the film, which is set to be released NOVEMBER 24th!!!

Thanksgiving, the second most horrifying Holiday of the Year!



I mean... there are a lot of video game throwbacks. The zombified Truck Driver, the helicopter crash, Claire biking into the city etc etc etc. It shows the STARS team moving into the Mansion as per Resident Evil One, but there's a lot of scenes that seem to come from Resident Evil 2 as well (like the ones I mentioned before, plus the bit with the Police Chief fucking about in the underground garage). The Birkin creature... if that's what it is... looks kinda disappointing to me. Though I guess it did go through a lot of iterations IIRC it didn't go through a mega-Licker phase. Maybe I'm wrong.

On the face of it, the trailer makes the movie look good as a trailer should. It looks like Claire Redfield is the main character, but you see Leon Kennedy, Jill Valentine, Chris Redfield, and William Birkin a lot. And that asshole Albert Wesker talking about "splitting up" the fucker...

Okay, so its only at this point aproved for a Netflix, movie, their just pre-emtively calling it a series? As like a series of movies? Or are they hoping this movie will act as a pilot for a TV series on Netflix?

Because reading the Wesker Plotline, it sounds like welcome to Racoon city and the Wesker daughter thing are two separate projects.

We got plenty of character development about wesker throughout the canon timellnie for RE.
A whole game where you play as him as well. A WII exclusive rail shooter.

The only thing I like about this is the casting of Chris and Claire, and the outfits. I hate everything else

Yeah the release of the movie and the Netflix series being developed at the same time made me retardedly confused lol. The movie might be decent, the Netflix series... who the hell knows where that's going. Though ultimate I blame @DarthOne regardless. ;)
 

Zachowon

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An HD Trailer has been released for the film, which is set to be released NOVEMBER 24th!!!

Thanksgiving, the second most horrifying Holiday of the Year!



I mean... there are a lot of video game throwbacks. The zombified Truck Driver, the helicopter crash, Claire biking into the city etc etc etc. It shows the STARS team moving into the Mansion as per Resident Evil One, but there's a lot of scenes that seem to come from Resident Evil 2 as well (like the ones I mentioned before, plus the bit with the Police Chief fucking about in the underground garage). The Birkin creature... if that's what it is... looks kinda disappointing to me. Though I guess it did go through a lot of iterations IIRC it didn't go through a mega-Licker phase. Maybe I'm wrong.

On the face of it, the trailer makes the movie look good as a trailer should. It looks like Claire Redfield is the main character, but you see Leon Kennedy, Jill Valentine, Chris Redfield, and William Birkin a lot. And that asshole Albert Wesker talking about "splitting up" the fucker...





Yeah the release of the movie and the Netflix series being developed at the same time made me retardedly confused lol. The movie might be decent, the Netflix series... who the hell knows where that's going. Though ultimate I blame @DarthOne regardless. ;)

The animated Netflix series? It is really good.

The movie looks actually okay. Not amazing, but it seems to be following the games better then the previous series did.
They seem to be getting 1 and 2 scenes mixed up.
At least with the helicopter crash.
It definitely doesn't seem to be horribly wrong and I definitely will watch it for free, not gonna give them money..if they didn't change Leon and Jill I would be happier
 

Husky_Khan

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Another movie controversy... again they seemed to have confused Leon Kennedy with Carlos.



The animated Netflix series? It is really good.

By Mother Miranda... we are not going to be introducing more random shit into this thread to confuzzle everyone all over again Thel!!!
 

Zachowon

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Another movie controversy... again they seemed to have confused Leon Kennedy with Carlos.





By Mother Miranda... we are not going to be introducing more random shit into this thread to confuzzle everyone all over again Thel!!!

You know you love it when I do Husky!!!

And yes, they are confusing Leon for Carlos based on the actor alone. They could have done RE 1 2 and 3 all in one
 

Husky_Khan

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The Director, Johannes Roberts, did a twelve minute plus breakdown of the trailer and expanded a lot on how he went into the filmmaking and everything. He definitely appears to know a lot about the game but the compromises he had to make especially with blending Resident Evil 1 and 2 into the same movie and timeline, makes me feel that his vision won't be fulfilled by the resources or budget given to him.

Still overall watching the video makes me more interested in watching the movie.

 

Zachowon

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The Director, Johannes Roberts, did a twelve minute plus breakdown of the trailer and expanded a lot on how he went into the filmmaking and everything. He definitely appears to know a lot about the game but the compromises he had to make especially with blending Resident Evil 1 and 2 into the same movie and timeline, makes me feel that his vision won't be fulfilled by the resources or budget given to him.

Still overall watching the video makes me more interested in watching the movie.


Did he explain the race swap?
 

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I saw the movie today and it was fun. If your even remotely a fan of the franchise or action-horror, which this is basically what it is, then I'd recommend giving this movie a watch. Despite the plot choices, its far more lore friendly and following the video game lore and the like then the previous Resident Evil series and you can tell from the sheer amount of easter eggs and set pieces and everything how they really tried to make this a movie for fans of the video game franchise.

Unfortunately it's still a deeply flawed movie and I think it was never going to be a great film because of the low budget and probably other studio requirements. The film needlessly merged the stories of Resident Evil 1 & 2 into what felt like a really short movie, to the point it didn't even feel like ninety minutes. Don't get me wrong, they did a pretty decent job with what they had and I'm guessing the studio wanting to shove it all into one feature film instead of just doing one story with an investment into potential sequel bait. But if your making a movie that's based off of two games, it really should've been two movies.

For that the rest of the movie suffered which is unfortunate because I would've LOVED to of seen more of these characters. Every character given any screentime is actually pretty interesting to watch and likable (or likable to dislike) with the very notable exception of Leon Kennedy. Despite the raceswap, Hannah John-Kamen's Jill Valentine was a fun character, and both of the Redfields were complete badasses. Police Chief Irons was perfectly cast but poorly scripted I feel. And despite being a supporting character in what felt like an hour long movie, this is the best iteration of Albert Wesker ever.

I actually couldn't recognize him without the sunglasses. And yes, this shallow film version of Albert Wesker is about ten times better then either the video game or Anderson movie versions whose basically just a sunglasses meme, sorry. This Wesker manages to take his limited screentime and actually flesh it out as best as he can. Unfortunately any real character growth or drama or gravitas and the like is quickly skirted over and the scripting and dialogue makes it feel really rushed and harmed the character interplay even more. Chris Redfield is a complete badass. And Jill is a badass as well.

The Spencer Mansion scenes were the clear highlight of the film. When you first step into it, I felt it was going to be prosaic and underwhelming but I really loved how they set up the encounters in the iconic Mansion and not just from the very well done transposing of iconic video game locations to the movie in a very loving manner, but the way the scenes were built up. This isn't a horror movie but it really turned up the intensity when the shit hits the fan. Not only are their decently designed zombies trying to rip and tear, but so much of the mansion is dark and it's in a good way (not the GoT Final Season sort of way) so you have these awesome scenes where you can hear muffled moans and lots of footfalls and pitter patting through the walls and amongst the shadows and then all hell just breaks loose.

There's action scenes illuminated just by moonlight or the gunlight and muzzle flashes and really awesome and intense fight choreography and gunplay scenes involving scads of zombies. I WISH THAT WE COULD GET A WHOLE MOVIE OF THIS. If they kept that sort of dark perpetually tense atmosphere going and be able to throw in half of the monstrosities that showed up in the game, it would've been an AMAZING movie in and of itself and if they had dedicated the budget to a single location, that of the mansion and just two major and a few minor characters, I think they could've pulled off a far better film. But alas...

Outside of the Spencer Mansion, Raccoon City and the iconically designed Police Station (and Orphanage) were beautifully crafted but so underwhelming. You can tell the budget and studio meddling suffered. The city is so empty, there's so few zombies, and nothing coming close to the apocalyptic feel that grips Raccoon City that you experience in the games. So much of both games has been stripped away that you get these beautiful sets taken straight from the video games and awesome characters and you speed through these empty sets and rush through character development.

The monster designs... ehhh... the Licker was okay. The zombies were neat and different. They treated the T-Virus as an actual infection so the shift from Human to Zombie was far more gradual. It was never a snap your fingers and your nomming on Human flesh. It transitioned over a manner of minutes or hours with steady degradation (though like any good zombie movie, the zombies don't follow there own rules so I'm sure CinemaSins or WowSuchGaming or whatever will have a field day with this movie). And yes, G-Virus Birkin shows up... his first iteration ain't that great either and the entire final showdown is actually kinda underwhelming unfortunately.

I'm sounding more critical of this movie then it was though. I still reiterate it's a fun movie to watch. It's entertaining and while there's some cringe, a feeling of it being rushed, underwhelming sets, and so forth, it was great seeing most of these characters coming to life (or undeath) and playing out video game encounters and plot points and travelling and blasting their way through iconic video game sets and rooms and locales and seeing all of that Resident Evil lore on the big screen.

And keep in mind, this movie was made on a budget of only $25 million dollars. Keep in mind the original Resident Evil movie from twenty years ago had a budget of #33 million. I feel like if the budget was doubled, and the plot cut in half, and you literally kept most everything else the same like the Director and crew and cast, the movie would've been AMAZING. Heck, you could've just cut the plot in half and cover just one game on the same budget and it would've been twice as good as the perfectly entertaining but ultimately merely adequate quality film we got. So much potential limited.

In conclusion, if your remotely interested in the franchise or genre, I'd recommend watching it.

Also there was a BOW Fight!!!!!!1

And a midcredits scene.
 

Husky_Khan

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It almost sounds like somebody had a post-Apocalypse movie idea, and then a higher-up told them to go find a popular franchise name to license to put on it.

Just like to say, after seeing the Resident Evil series on Netflix, this is bascially what it felt like. Everything Resident Evil related felt like it could've been easily removed without too much trouble. Just replace a monster here or a scene there.

I almost turned off the TV twenty minutes into the first episode but it did get better as the series went on. It wasn't good, but it wasn't bad. The show grew on me more and more and there were some parts of the show I did actually think were pretty clever and interesting and well done. It was a terrible adaption of Resident Evil though.

It likely would've been better qualitatively if it was its own original thing like I assume it originally was.
 

Husky_Khan

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Rest In Peace Resident Evil on Netflix...


Maybe if someone didn't just create a neat post-apocalypse/Zombie genre idea and then slap on a Resident Evil sticker on it the show would've been more successful. But it has been cancelled now. And nothing of any real value was lost.
 

JagerIV

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Rest In Peace Resident Evil on Netflix...


Maybe if someone didn't just create a neat post-apocalypse/Zombie genre idea and then slap on a Resident Evil sticker on it the show would've been more successful. But it has been cancelled now. And nothing of any real value was lost.

Yeah, watching it I found it potentially interesting, as its own thing. It was doing this weird like, half way zombie apocalypse that I don't think I've really seen in anything else. Closest would be WWZ.

Having enough people to do geopolitics in the backdrop of a zombie apocalypses could have been interesting. With some wide variation in how dangerous things were. Like, a zombie apocalypse which "only" killed like 90% of the population leaves 800 million people. Which is less people than there was in Nepoleonic times, but hardly an empty planet either.
 

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This got me thinking of the better TV show you could have with the concept ditching the Resident evil baggage.

1) If you want to have it set in South Africa, have that actually matter: make crazy CEO lady some brand of native South African White: looking up the actor, she's 44, which puts her in the perfect position to be a disillusioned but still clinging on to hope South African Patriot: she would have been a young girl/teenager when Apartheid ended, perfect time to be filled with youthful optimism for the future, and to be maximumly disappointed, finally being shipped off to America for college/etcetera.

Thus, in her actions she's filled with deeply held contradictory convictions: born in South Africa, believer in the dream of Unity, but also faced with the reality that to create the dream in her native homeland requires a super gated community. You can keep her wife, and play up her West Coast privileged position as coming from that background and the kind of life she lived in America, have have it hit up against the unpleasant reality of operating where she is, in the kind of business she's in, and a steadily failing business that needs a big win, lest the Native South African pharmaceutical industry dies, along with her family legacy and, implicity, the noble dream of South Africa.

She's an ambitious, big dreamer who's not really prepared to take up where her father was slowly failing, but self delusional and desparate to push forward, damn the risk, risks she's often clearly not fully aware of.

2) Lance Reddick can keep his roll, just not as wesker, but probably still a scientist, or maybe just a general "troubleshooter" type. Of of the actors age of 60, he's the perfect age to be someone who's not really the CEO's friend, as seems implied by the show, but her father's friend: if he came into the father's employ when his character was in his 20s, that would have their relationship starting in the 1980s. Lot of room for morally questionable things to be done by a bioweapon company operated out of South Africa in the 1980s.

Instead of awkwardly shoving in a weskerish backstory, instead he's basically a semi-retired Bond henchman. If you want a bit of humor, have him very matter of factly refer to some crazy 80s action movie thing he did back in the day which completely clashes with the modern serious tone.

If you want to keep "inspired by" elements of resident evil, he can be one of the people who helped find the original T-virus in the jungle, and did all sorts of horrible things in its testing and building up of the Father's business empire.

There could be a whole bunch of rumors of him being something close to a co-founder with the CEO's dad, with endless rumors among the rank and file whether he wasn't formally a vice president through racism, not liking the limelight, or among the newer members if he's a diversity hire, someone they can pin achievements on to give a black face to the company, since its not clear to most what exactly he actually does.

Keep him as a very sensible, grounded man with nothing in the manner of grand visions or goals. He doesn't emotionally care about South Africa or any dreams of unity or separateness, one way or another, as a foil to the idealistic younger CEO. The unsentimentally can cut both ways though: he has no delusions of grandeur, but little in specific moral scruples either: you can have some kidnapping subplot (part of the broader "setting this in South Africa should matter"), had have him deal with it in a calm, rational, and completely ruthless manner.

The kind of man where the closest thing he really has to morality is loyalty: he's loyal to the Late CEO, the current one by the loyalty to the prior, his daughters (that can be a clone or other mystery box), and maybe some other person. So, while he might not push for anything terrible, he's not going to turn lightly either.

3) Keep the daughters, but, well, better. Have them be more aware of how big a deal their dad is: its excusable if maybe in America he operated more independently, so they're less plugged into how big of a deal for the company he is, but they really don't act the part of children in their position. At the very least there should be some awareness that their dad is scary. Having the children raised in America makes them useful viewpoint characters on the challenges of life and culture shock of living in South Africa, and can further highlight the crazy difference between the company town Pokien village and the reality of the surrounding country. Further element of the "making the fact they're in South Africa matter".

4) Make everyone coming to South Africa matter in some way: there doing some final thing on joy, the wonder drug that can save the company, but they need to close the American operations for some reason. Or they're just cash strapped, and there's a South African grant that lures the company back from its American operations, putting the whole operation on much riskier footings which causes the disaster.

5) Whatever you do, try to stay to one, linear timeline. There's only 8 episodes anyways, you don't actually have to rush things. Get all the characters together, build them up, build up tension on what happening and build to the tottering disaster. Since your not actually tied to resident evil, and your not pre-showing the outcome, things can go either way: either disaster is averted, or not.

Obviously, going with the theme of the show, however disaster comes, and in some way the main characters are directly responsible. Make it clear why. Also take the focus on one timeline to fill in characters people like and are invested in. Then you do the time jump once its clear what's happing, why its unavoidable, and where people initially are going.

6) Then you can do the post apocalypse travel vlog: one of the daughters is part of the academy, made up of survivors of the company, instead of a bunch of random. They're trying to find some sort of cure, feeling guilty and responsible for the disaster, and wanting to fix it, or somehow do right. The role Umbrella plays in the show can instead be played more plausibly by someone else, like the UN: have them playing GDI, with however much shades of gray makes sense showing (also dependent on run time), which you can do freed from the Umbrella name which seems to demand comical evilness.

Have some people, possibly front line especially, in it to help people and restore the world. Others at higher levels can more explicitly in it for more nefarious New World Order stuff, and are much more opportunistically using this crisis as a power grab, or worse, some sort of idealistic utopian vision. Likewise in why exactly their hunting old company people: to do justice? To buy the GDI legitimacy by hunting down the people responsible, justice being a secondary concern to propaganda wins? Or do they have their own desires with their capture? Maybe some want dead some want alive?

The GDI/UN can be contrasted with the areas the GDI doesn't control, or only controls partially, exploring some actual ideas rather than just "random crucified french men in a castle with strangely middle aged garbs working the fields". By doing things linearly, you can actually focus a full episode on the settlement/problem of the week, instead of dividing attention between all these flashbacks.

If star trek can do a good exploration of some concept, and Stargate was able to explore some society with enough depth to be interesting in an hour episode, you could do the same with this show with the episode mostly focusing on, well, that particular episodes story.
 
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