Republicans, Race, and the "Great Replacement"

WolfBear

Well-known member
The assumption that the US is a 'white nation' and that anything but growing numbers of 'whites' in it is a 'Great Replacement' is working from a stand point that the US nation has an intrinsic skin color 'white' and intrinsic 'white majority' to begin with.

The fact is the US always has been and always will be a multi-ethnic nation that is supposed to be held together by a common culture, not a common race.

If one wants to be fair, the Naturalization Act of 1790 did limit naturalizations to free white persons of good character. But Yeah, I'm certainly a big tent nationalist for both the US and other countries. If you're non-white but want to embrace non-Woke US values, then you should probably be welcomed here. :)
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics

bintananth

behind a desk
The assumption that the US is a 'white nation' and that anything but growing numbers of 'whites' in it is a 'Great Replacement' is working from a stand point that the US nation has an intrinsic skin color 'white' and intrinsic 'white majority' to begin with.

The fact is the US always has been and always will be a multi-ethnic nation that is supposed to be held together by a common culture, not a common race.
In 1860 the US Census said that roughly 39% of the South consisted of blacks who were slaves - or if free - basically had no rights.

The Abolitionists of the day didn't think "niggers" were anywhere close to being equal to "whitey". There's some really racist "send them all back to Africa" from that era. See: Liberia.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
In 1860 the US Census said that roughly 39% of the South consisted of blacks who were slaves - or if free - basically had no rights.

The Abolitionists of the day didn't think "niggers" were anywhere close to being equal to "whitey". There's some really racist "send them all back to Africa" from that era. See: Liberia.
That's still giving people an entire country.....
 

ProfessorCurio

MadScientist
In 1860 the US Census said that roughly 39% of the South consisted of blacks who were slaves - or if free - basically had no rights.

The Abolitionists of the day didn't think "niggers" were anywhere close to being equal to "whitey". There's some really racist "send them all back to Africa" from that era. See: Liberia.
Multi-ethnic does not mean omni-ethnic, however unfortunate that is.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
It's not about skin colour or ancestry.

I have zero traceable European ancestry. My family has been entirely American since the mid-1850s.

seriously take a step back I know this is an emotionally loaded thing but take a step back and look at the issue not from a modern point of view but from the point of view of all of history comparing american civilization to every thing that came before it.


Liberia is around 43,000 square miles of land, its been independent since 1847, do you have any idea how absolutely rare it is for a country to just give people their own country? No fighting, no blood, just hey heres some free real estate?

This is incredibly rare, I mean Cyrus the great just allowed the jews to move back to our ansestoral homeland and let us have semi autonomy, we were not given full independence here, and he is still remembered as a messanic figure to this day for doing that.

Getting your own country is a big fucking deal. Massive numbers of people have given their lives, died, and been tortured to even have a chance to have their own country. So just having some one give you your very own country? Yeah that is unbelivable genorosity by historical standards.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
seriously take a step back I know this is an emotionally loaded thing but take a step back and look at the issue not from a modern point of view but from the point of view of all of history comparing american civilization to every thing that came before it.


Liberia is around 43,000 square miles of land, its been independent since 1847, do you have any idea how absolutely rare it is for a country to just give people their own country? No fighting, no blood, just hey heres some free real estate?

This is incredibly rare, I mean Cyrus the great just allowed the jews to move back to our ansestoral homeland and let us have semi autonomy, we were not given full independence here, and he is still remembered as a messanic figure to this day for doing that.

Getting your own country is a big fucking deal. Massive numbers of people have given their lives, died, and been tortured to even have a chance to have their own country. So just having some one give you your very own country? Yeah that is unbelivable genorosity by historical standards.
Read up on the history of Liberia. I'll give you a primer:


It ain't pretty.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
Read up on the history of Liberia. I'll give you a primer:


It ain't pretty.

The history of most countries isn't pretty, The American Liberians made a lot of mistakes and had their fair share of bad shit on their table, and in the end the civil wars took a country that was becoming more prosperious and flushed it all down the toylet.

That things ended badly doesn't mean that giving former slaves their own country wasn't an act of very rare historical genorsity. Getting your own country is like I said a big freaking deal.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
the great replacement is not just a theory.

...sort of, sort of not.

It isn't just a theory, as there are a few very committed radicals in unfortunately influential positions pushing for it, but the rest of the power structure just fumble at dealing with this sort of thing. It's completely pervaded by runaway Enlightenment Universalism, which has had its claws in since 1945 (if not a bit beforehand), which hampers their ability to perceive and fix the problem that will only get worse in time.

It's not really a grand conspiracy. It's more a cavalcade of bad ideas that have set in and rotted over the decades.
 

Simonbob

Well-known member
...sort of, sort of not.

It isn't just a theory, as there are a few very committed radicals in unfortunately influential positions pushing for it, but the rest of the power structure just fumble at dealing with this sort of thing. It's completely pervaded by runaway Enlightenment Universalism, which has had its claws in since 1945 (if not a bit beforehand), which hampers their ability to perceive and fix the problem that will only get worse in time.

It's not really a grand conspiracy. It's more a cavalcade of bad ideas that have set in and rotted over the decades.

A cabal of elites behind the replacing of the current group because they think they'll get power from it?

Dude, the Democrats in the US have been saying that they're doing it to get more votes for decades.


The moment you remove the 'shadowy' from it, you realise it's been there, the whole time. In public. Once again, telling you to your face.


You, just like me, just didn't want to see it.
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
...sort of, sort of not.

It isn't just a theory, as there are a few very committed radicals in unfortunately influential positions pushing for it, but the rest of the power structure just fumble at dealing with this sort of thing. It's completely pervaded by runaway Enlightenment Universalism, which has had its claws in since 1945 (if not a bit beforehand), which hampers their ability to perceive and fix the problem that will only get worse in time.

It's not really a grand conspiracy. It's more a cavalcade of bad ideas that have set in and rotted over the decades.

The Camp of the Saints - Wikipedia

there have been many more prophets since Jesus, but we don't know about them because we've stopped looking for true enlightenment.

what is happening now was accurately predicted in 1973.

prophets walk among us. we just have to open our eyes and find them, hiding in plain sight
 

ATP

Well-known member
The Camp of the Saints - Wikipedia

there have been many more prophets since Jesus, but we don't know about them because we've stopped looking for true enlightenment.

what is happening now was accurately predicted in 1973.

prophets walk among us. we just have to open our eyes and find them, hiding in plain sight

Jesus is GOD,not prophet.But book was prophetic.And good one,too.
P.S Sire is even better.
 

Stargazer

Well-known member
seriously take a step back I know this is an emotionally loaded thing but take a step back and look at the issue not from a modern point of view but from the point of view of all of history comparing american civilization to every thing that came before it.


Liberia is around 43,000 square miles of land, its been independent since 1847, do you have any idea how absolutely rare it is for a country to just give people their own country? No fighting, no blood, just hey heres some free real estate?

This is incredibly rare, I mean Cyrus the great just allowed the jews to move back to our ansestoral homeland and let us have semi autonomy, we were not given full independence here, and he is still remembered as a messanic figure to this day for doing that.

Getting your own country is a big fucking deal. Massive numbers of people have given their lives, died, and been tortured to even have a chance to have their own country. So just having some one give you your very own country? Yeah that is unbelivable genorosity by historical standards.

That's an interesting perspective, and I appreciate the Biblical reference. Twice in the Old Testament the Israelites are in a situation of involuntary servitude in a foreign land - first in Egypt, then in Babylon/Persia. Both times the solution wasn't enforcing equal social status and prosperity with the native Egyptians, Babylonians, etc, though Israelites were able to ascend to positions of power and authority in those societies (ie Joseph, Moses, Daniel, Esther). The solution each time was the return of the Israelites to the land of their forefathers.

The situation with people of African descent in the United States was comparable. Over time, Africans had been forcibly relocated to America for a life of involuntary servitude (often captured and sold by rival African tribes). With a combination of influence from both Biblical morality and Enlightenment ideas, many of the Founding Fathers were smart enough to recognize how wrong this was. But what was the solution? Given those Biblical stories as precedent, it shouldn't be so surprising that the idea of sending Africans back to Africa seemed like an appealing solution, possibly the best outcome for all involved.

I'm not saying it really would have been the ideal solution, it's just an interesting perspective putting myself in their shoes that I hadn't thought of before. It didn't necessarily mean they looked down on Africans as inferior and needing to be removed. I can see how the thought of just sending Africans "home" after being kidnapped as a population and brought to America could be seen as an act of kindness.

It also makes me wonder how that sort of idea would be received today. For all the talk of systemic racism, critical race theory, police violence, etc, how many black people would actually want to move to Africa if they were given a free ticket to go? To move back to nations where they are the majority. I think it goes without saying that very few would take that offer, because for all their complaining, they know that life for them here in America is still much better than life in just about any African country would be. To this day many Africans continue to immigrate to the US for the opportunities in this country. The reverse never happens.
 

Morphic Tide

Well-known member
Wait a sec, then who is God if Jesus is God?

I thought Jesus was the son of God?
Metaphysics shenanigans that have led to massive violent crackdowns. This being a pain in the ass to make coherent is why the Catholics are so hardass about the canon. Vast amount of utterly pointless complexity accrued that makes it hard to get buy-in to the "actual" beliefs. All to fill in the awkward cracks where vaguely-profound stuff taken literally becomes a mess.
 

WolfBear

Well-known member
The Camp of the Saints - Wikipedia

there have been many more prophets since Jesus, but we don't know about them because we've stopped looking for true enlightenment.

what is happening now was accurately predicted in 1973.

prophets walk among us. we just have to open our eyes and find them, hiding in plain sight

Interestingly enough, the French guy who coined the term Great Replacement is himself both gay and childless and is thus personally contributing to the Great Replacement by refusing to personally breed:


the great replacement is not just a theory.

its an active practice and its already destroyed the UK

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia

Huddersfield grooming gang - Wikipedia

Rochdale child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia

take a look at the names of all the perpetrators and you will understand

there are immigrants and there are invaders.

i hope everyone will remember that when things turn to shit and the dogs of war are let loose on North America

Conservative Jewish academic Nathan Cofnas has previously argued that the Left's love of non-white criminals has to do with their liberal ancestors' and ideological forebearers' belief in and admiration of the concept of the Noble Savage:

 

ATP

Well-known member
Wait a sec, then who is God if Jesus is God?

I thought Jesus was the son of God?

Nicene Creed.
And Sire is even better,becouse showed modern France as country where practically everybody,including republicans,stop beliving in anything except power and money.
There are maybe 10 monarchist left,and one lonely republican who try catch them for real.
 

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