Report: German Officials Placed Children with Known Paedophiles For 30 Years

LifeisTiresome

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A former Chancellor of West Germany, Berlin senators, bureaucrats, and members of the educational establishment have all been implicated in a network “in which paedophile positions were accepted, supported, and defended”, according to a report into the placement of homeless children with known paedophile foster parents by the German government.

For over a year, researchers at the University of Hildesheim have undertaken the examination of thousands of files in the Senate Education Administration in Berlin. The 57-page report, which was published this week, found that a “network of actors in the Senate administration and institutions of educational reforms during the home reform of the 1970s tolerated the establishment of shared apartments and foster homes for paedophile men”.

A man with a criminal record for child abuse, referred in the report as Fritz H., was able to rape and abuse at least nine children that were given to him as foster children under the government-backed scheme. Despite the extreme warning signs, Berlin youth welfare officers consistently chose him as a foster father to children, who were often six or seven years old.

The dark legacy of sexual liberation in Germany


Pedophiles in the guise of foster fathers — with vulnerable young boys in their care: The Kentler Project was just one manifestation of a perverted notion of Germany's sexual liberation that goes back to the 1960s.

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I hate this so fucking much. The fucking Christians were right. Academia is evil. Only by them being destroyed can anything be salvaged. We are drowning in shit cause of Academia. We are ignorant of history cause of Academia. They are the source of evil and the cancer plaguing society.
 

Yinko

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In Germany in the 1960s, people in some circles viewed sex with children not as a taboo but as progressive.

One key figure behind such thinking was the Berlin-based psychology professor Helmut Kentler. Today, it is clear that he was nothing less than a matchmaker for pedophiles. But for a long time, he was widely viewed as a visionary and one of Germany's most prominent sexologists, or sex experts.

His books on education sold well, and he was a popular expert and commentator on radio and TV. His theory of "emancipating sexual education" was based on the premise that children are also sexual beings who have are right to express their sexuality.
Just... fuck.

This actually reminds me of Gabriel Matzneff - Wikipedia who was accepted in French artistic and academic circles for decades despite being a well known ephebophile (teenagers).

I don't really want to say it, because it's depressing, but articles like these make me really question the whole "we don't need religion to stay moral" argument. I'm not religious, but if all it takes is an authority figure to take something that your morality says is evil and turn it into a progressive benefit, then maybe people aren't as good as humanism would want you to believe.
 

hyperspacewizard

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What people tend to forget is humans are animals. Like we aren’t as special as people would like to believe. It takes time energy and pain to build morality and just like you wouldn’t try to teach yourself math or biology from the very beginning you shouldn’t try to teach morality that way either religion is years of knowledge packaged in a way for the lowest common denominator some people to live moral lives must live in fear they can’t ever believe they are alone in the dark.
 

Terthna

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From the article

Just... fuck.

This actually reminds me of Gabriel Matzneff - Wikipedia who was accepted in French artistic and academic circles for decades despite being a well known ephebophile (teenagers).

I don't really want to say it, because it's depressing, but articles like these make me really question the whole "we don't need religion to stay moral" argument. I'm not religious, but if all it takes is an authority figure to take something that your morality says is evil and turn it into a progressive benefit, then maybe people aren't as good as humanism would want you to believe.
Saying that "we don't need religion to stay moral" is merely an expression of potential; most people choose to be selfish jerks regardless, with or without religion. I mean, do I really need to point out the thousands of priests who sexually abused children over the course of decades, that the Catholic Church protected in an attempt to preserve their reputation? Religion isn't the panacea for all the moral failings of humanity its adherents insist it is.
 

Yinko

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Saying that "we don't need religion to stay moral" is merely an expression of potential; most people choose to be selfish jerks regardless, with or without religion. I mean, do I really need to point out the thousands of priests who sexually abused children over the course of decades, that the Catholic Church protected in an attempt to preserve their reputation? Religion isn't the panacea for all the moral failings of humanity its adherents insist it is.
I know it's not a perfect cure all, being religious didn't stop those priests, but they also didn't think it was ok either. That's the big difference in the examples; acting despite feeling that the action is wrong, or changing your feeling to make it right.

Taking the decision of what is right and wrong out of the hands of the individual crystallizes morality for a much longer period of time. You could argue that this is what leads to things like Sharia law, and you would be right. The main difference is that western religious history is one of frequent editing and reinterpretation.

As I said, I am not religious, that doesn't mean I can't be skeptical of the claim that the human animal can generally self-regulate its behavior without externalizing much of its responsibility. Hence laws, hence traditions, hence religions, hence governments. If we could self-regulate behavior in any practical sense, then it seems likely that anarchysm and communism would be practical solutions.
 

almostinsane

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Saying that "we don't need religion to stay moral" is merely an expression of potential; most people choose to be selfish jerks regardless, with or without religion. I mean, do I really need to point out the thousands of priests who sexually abused children over the course of decades, that the Catholic Church protected in an attempt to preserve their reputation? Religion isn't the panacea for all the moral failings of humanity its adherents insist it is.
I know it's not a perfect cure all, being religious didn't stop those priests, but they also didn't think it was ok either. That's the big difference in the examples; acting despite feeling that the action is wrong, or changing your feeling to make it right.

Taking the decision of what is right and wrong out of the hands of the individual crystallizes morality for a much longer period of time. You could argue that this is what leads to things like Sharia law, and you would be right. The main difference is that western religious history is one of frequent editing and reinterpretation.

As I said, I am not religious, that doesn't mean I can't be skeptical of the claim that the human animal can generally self-regulate its behavior without externalizing much of its responsibility. Hence laws, hence traditions, hence religions, hence governments. If we could self-regulate behavior in any practical sense, then it seems likely that anarchysm and communism would be practical solutions.

As yinko said. As bad as those priests were, neither they nor their enablers thought it was okay. In fact, they were following the cultural zeitgeist of the 60s that said pedophilia could be cured with counseling and they hid it because they saw it as shameful.

These officials and educators saw pedophilia as good and worked to get it accepted. They went out of their way to send kids to pedophiles with the power of the state.

Both are wrong. However, the Catholic Church's response was, "Shit! We'll hide this and try to cure these men. Shit, it's not working, let's try to keep these priests away from kids. Shit. Cover it up!"

Meanwhile, Germany's response was, "It is right and good to fuck children. We will pimp wards of the state out to perverts in secret and work to make pedophilia accepted by society at large."

But really, fuck the 60s. Worst decade in Western history.
 
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The key to religious morals having 'teeth' and being an actual hedge against evil requires the acknowledgement that there is higher power/authority/hierarchy that one WILL AND MUST ultimately answer to. Otherwise, religion then becomes a matter of choice and what one believes is what makes one 'feel' whatever self-validation one values most.

Now with something like this being unearthed in Germany? Good luck German political establishment, a Weimar 2.0 level scandal like this is only going to throw gas on the fires of discontent that the AFD is feeding on.
 
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CarlManvers2019

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Pedophile Priests, ya know I think that stuff started off with how much people trusted their kids with Priests

Now, people trust their kids with say, TEACHERS to a large degree for many hours a day

Even if they’re not exactly religious, teachers/professors ARE a position of authority of sorts....and we should be wary of those with authority even if they don’t have power they have influence and the ability to exert pressure

Now that I think about it, politicians and other government employees are a position of authority whom people are trusted being near with....in-spite of all the scandals over the decades involving them
 

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