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Husky_Khan

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Homeless Man Building a Cabin in a heavily wooded Public Park in Seattle complete with power supply, generator and open fire pits fueled by gasoline, diesel and kerosene.


Previously he was cited for tearing down trees and digging up the land in the city park with an excavator?!?! for which he was arrested and then released without bond.
 

Cherico

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Honestly, I kind of feel we should be embracing this in a 'since our money isn't good enough to buy a house, we'll build our own where we want anyway. Let's see you try to enforce your bullshit' sense.


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The federal government shouldnt be allowed to own more then a tenth of a states land period.
 

Husky_Khan

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Honestly, I kind of feel we should be embracing this in a 'since our money isn't good enough to buy a house, we'll build our own where we want anyway. Let's see you try to enforce your bullshit' sense.

Might be more valid IMHO if he actually applied his evident skills (using an excavator being the least of it) to actually finding work and getting paid and then perhaps somehow being unable to find affordable habitation.

Being off the grid and other homesteading is a perfectly fine life goal, but it looks like this park is in the middle of Seattle, not one of the millions of acres of Western land owned by the Bureau of Land Management or whatever.
 

DarthOne

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Might be more valid IMHO if he actually applied his evident skills (using an excavator being the least of it) to actually finding work and getting paid and then perhaps somehow being unable to find affordable habitation.

Being off the grid and other homesteading is a perfectly fine life goal, but it looks like this park is in the middle of Seattle, not one of the millions of acres of Western land owned by the Bureau of Land Management or whatever.

Good luck getting out to those places. Also, it's Seattle.
 

Zachowon

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The federal government shouldnt be allowed to own more then a tenth of a states land period.
A lot of that land is military bases and things like that.
And unless you want artillery coming down on your house....
 

Husky_Khan

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Most of the Western land was available for homesteading for the better part of a hundred years but no one wanted it. Now most of it is rented out to cattle grazers for prices below market value. Large swathes of it, being public land, is also free for hiking, hunting and other recreational activities unlike farther back East where private property and park services limits everything even in the "wilderness."
 

Zachowon

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a tenth of a states land is more then enough space to do that kind of thing, a lot of states are the sizes of european countries.
Missiles need long ranges, air craft testing needs a lot of space etc.
Then you also have national parks which are federal land as well
 

Cherico

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Missiles need long ranges, air craft testing needs a lot of space etc.
Then you also have national parks which are federal land as well

Other countries with much less space do the same. Asking Nevada to have over 80% of their land be controlled by the federal government forever isn't in any way just. Also turn those national parks over to the states.
 

The Whispering Monk

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The federal government shouldnt be allowed to own more then a tenth of a states land period.
A lot of that land is military bases and things like that.
And unless you want artillery coming down on your house....
That land should not be controlled by the Federal Government. It should be state owned or privately owned. If the US Govt wants the land for military use and testing, they should pay rent to the state OR lower federal tax burden for the citizens. You live in Nevada, Fed has 80% of state lands, you get an automatic write off of 80% of your Federal Taxes.
 

Zachowon

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That land should not be controlled by the Federal Government. It should be state owned or privately owned. If the US Govt wants the land for military use and testing, they should pay rent to the state OR lower federal tax burden for the citizens. You live in Nevada, Fed has 80% of state lands, you get an automatic write off of 80% of your Federal Taxes.
Some bases are like this. Some arnt.
The thing about national parks is they are just that. National Parks. States have thier own parks within the state but the national ones are those the feds take care of.
So in thay case it would effect funding heavily
 

Cherico

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Some bases are like this. Some arnt.
The thing about national parks is they are just that. National Parks. States have thier own parks within the state but the national ones are those the feds take care of.
So in thay case it would effect funding heavily

Good one less expense for the federal government and gives back the states land in one go? Sign me up give all national parks to the states, thanks for the idea I love it.
 

Husky_Khan

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National Park Service (along with the Bureau of Land Management) actually make profits for themselves and the surrounding communities AFAIK while a lot of smaller State Park systems often struggle with funding, even with significant federal investment in them. Federal scaling has its benefits, especially in states that don't collect as much revenue to keep their taxes low, like Nevada for example.

The public land owned by the Federal Government is also largely open to recreational use, hunting, hiking and fishing and the like. There's been countless controversies, even in the West in places like Idaho and Montana, of private land encroachment and tenancy and large scale landowners even predating on denying access to public lands. I think the family that initially funded the Daily Wire was one of those that was accused of that. It's surreal living in a Midwest State and then going to a Western State and seeing how much more land is just open to access without random privately owned allotments preventing you from just wanting to go camping or hunting where you want.

Plus the federal land generates revenue by offering cheaper grazing rights to ranchers and mining/drilling operations then you'd get on public land with the government handling the environmental aspects and actual land management and preservation. For the States to control all of that property would probably scale the financial and logistical burden on some of these states which don't exactly have a huge population or revenue base in the first place, especially since much of the land the government owns is basically stuff bypassed for a century when it was available for homesteading because it wasn't easily cultivatable.
 
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Zachowon

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Military bases are a good example of benefiting the local economy heavily.
 

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