Star Wars Q Decides to troll Palpatine instead of Picard

Sailor.X

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In this scenario after being bored with trolling Picard Q decides to troll a whole new sorry bastard........

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Senator Palpatine.

Q knows all about Palpy's plans and will be doing things from the Phantom Menace right up to the Bad Batch to screw with Palpatine. Q while not blowing Palpys cover as a secret Sith Lord will do things to complicate all of his plans. What trolling do you think Q will get up to drive Palpy crazy. How will this affect they Clone Wars Era as a whole? Will the Jedi get a clue as to what is going on?
 

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Q will just keep on showing up whenever Palps is in his Evil Lair (tm) with a mariachi band to congratulate old Palps on his excellent showing so far.

And also whenever he's addressing the Senate, Q shows up in a way that only Palps can see, eating popcorn and holding up signs egging him on.

And since Q is a troll, but not evil, he reprograms the Clones so when Palps issues Order 66 the Clones immediately start engaging in a Macarena dancing contest.
 

Bacle

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Nah, Q will probably go for more..subtle trolling that hit's Palp directly.

That lightsaber he had stashed in his office, inside the hyperdense statue...well, wouldn't it be a shame if the powercell was dead when Windu and co came to visit.
 

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Hmmmmmm perhaps it was allowing slavery, genocide, and massive amounts of war crimes to occur in his Empire

Don't forget hijacking a legit political movement with real and actually quite ancient grievances (that date to the time when the SW Galaxy decided to do a 40k larp) to use as his bogeymen to justify his crossing of the rubicon.
 

Sailor.X

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Hmmmmmm perhaps it was allowing slavery, genocide, and massive amounts of war crimes to occur in his Empire
Don't forget hijacking a legit political movement with real and actually quite ancient grievances (that date to the time when the SW Galaxy decided to do a 40k larp) to use as his bogeymen to justify his crossing of the rubicon.
And more importantly giving the order that got Shaak Ti and Hot ass Aalya Secura killed. That alone is a crime worthy of death.
 

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Hm...it's actually a very interesting.

People seem to have forgotten that much of Q's involvement with Picard was essentially a long running philosophical argument over human nature, if men truly were good (or trying to be good) at thier core or if they were still driven by mere self interest, it's wasn't just Q going "Hey, I bet Picard would look really silly in running around in the woods dressed like Robin Hood". Though that debate that aspect was a bit more subdued in later seasons as the series moved away from the Roddenberry "we're more evolved, super moral TNG humans now" stuff into something slightly more plausible, it was still there up to the final episode. Picard eventually won that argument. Mostly.

Palpatine, by contrast, is humanity as Q portrays them to Picard. Petty, power hunger, self interested, self important, etc. But while Picard believed most humans were like himself, Palpatine is fully aware that most people are not like himself, so Q can't just do his normal thing of just testing someone's convictions and trying to prove them wrong.
 
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Bear Ribs

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Hm...it's actually a very interesting.

People seem to have forgotten that much of Q's involvement with Picard was essentially a long running philosophical argument over human nature, if men truly were good (or trying to be good) at thier core or if they were still driven by mere self interest, it's wasn't just Q going "Hey, I bet Picard woyld look really silly in running around in the woods dressed like Robin Hood". Though that debate that aspect was a bit more subdued in later seasons as the series moved away from the Roddenberry "we're more evolved, super moral TNG humans now" stuff into something slightly more plausible, it was still there up to the final episode. Picard eventually won that argument. Mostly.

Palpatine, by contrast, is humanity as Q portrays them to Picard. Petty, power hunger, self interested, self important, etc. But while Picard believed most humans were like himself, Palpatine is fully aware that most people are not like himself, so Q can't just do his normal thing of just testing someone's convictions and trying to prove them wrong.
Beat me to it. I agree, Q's style isn't to make droids do silly dances. Honestly, I don't see Q doing most of the stuff people are proposing here. That's not his style.

Q's method is generally to appear, dressed to give himself authority such as judges' robes or a grand marshall uniform, then make grandiose claims and put on trials. Sometimes they're literally just discussions of alleged sins, sometimes they're scenarios he invents where you have to overcome a personal flaw to win.

Part of the issue is that Sidious doesn't seem like the type to attract Q's attention. But let's go with it.

I'd see it as:

Q appears wearing Sith-themed armor identifying himself as a True Sith Emperor, employing elements of Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Darth Bane himself, probably a few others too. He puts Sidious on trial for failure as a Sith.

What has Sidious done to deserve the lofty title of Sith Emperor? Clones to kill Jedi? That was Darth Plageuis' plan and Sidious just borrowed it. Killed his master? But not in a duel, was it? He was a coward who had to take the easy route instead of using his passion to gain strength, break his chains, and be freed by the force. Managed to corrupt Anakin? That was mostly the Jedi being idiots, we might as well give Sidious credit for Barriss Offee turning to the dark side. And what a pitiful apprentice at that, Sidious can't even stand the pressure of having a real apprentice so he had to settle for a mentally and physically broken wreck, after a chain of wrecks like Maul and Dooku who Sidious wasn't even able to fight and defeat himself. Pathetic.

Q then proceeds to create an elaborate scenario where Sidious has to actually prove his chops as a Sith. Perhaps, as he made Picard play Robin Hood Once, he recreates some event from Star Wars past/mythology and forces Sidious to actually handle difficult scenarios such as an apprentice far more powerful than himself that he can barely keep a lid on and needs to carefully finesse, ultimately Sidious can only actually win the trial by losing and accepting with joy that he's raised an apprentice more powerful than himself and thus strengthened the Sith.

To me, I think Q might be more interested in challenging Maul and Savage when both were still alive. These are a pair who actually have room to grow and change compared to Sidious and Q could have them make a difference and change their lives, perhaps even coming up with a new philosophy.
 

ParadiseLost

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The problem with The Emperor is that he's boring, and quite intentionally so at that.

In Episode 6, he's quite literally there solely to be the foil preventing Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker's father-son reunion until the last act. He's a seemingly unstoppable evil who is there as a morality test for Vader, more of a story element than an actual character.

Which is why a scenario involving Q visiting the Emperor is nonsensical. To make the scenario interesting, you really have to kill the Emperor and replace him with a character seemingly similar to, but not actually like, the real Emperor.
 

Sailor.X

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The problem with The Emperor is that he's boring, and quite intentionally so at that.

In Episode 6, he's quite literally there solely to be the foil preventing Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker's father-son reunion until the last act. He's a seemingly unstoppable evil who is there as a morality test for Vader, more of a story element than an actual character.

Which is why a scenario involving Q visiting the Emperor is nonsensical. To make the scenario interesting, you really have to kill the Emperor and replace him with a character seemingly similar to, but not actually like, the real Emperor.
You know you could like not post in the thread if you don't like it. No one is making write a bitch about character post here.
 

Bassoe

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Q then proceeds to create an elaborate scenario where Sidious has to actually prove his chops as a Sith. Perhaps, as he made Picard play Robin Hood Once, he recreates some event from Star Wars past/mythology and forces Sidious to actually handle difficult scenarios such as an apprentice far more powerful than himself that he can barely keep a lid on and needs to carefully finesse, ultimately Sidious can only actually win the trial by losing and accepting with joy that he's raised an apprentice more powerful than himself and thus strengthened the Sith.
Every single sith to supposedly follow the Rule of Two, including its creator once he figured out how to bodyjack people and potentially live forever has essentially operated on the logic of 'this is a good rule for other sith, but not me, my apprentices should be disposable pawns who solely exist to serve me' right up until said apprentices murdered them because they weren't as smart and in control of the situation as they thought.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hmmmmmm perhaps it was allowing slavery, genocide, and massive amounts of war crimes to occur in his Empire

To be fair Yoda allowed the exact same retinue of fucked up shit.

And arguably worse since he declared war on slaves who only wanted the Arkanians to stop doing horrifically depraved shit that even the ancient Sith objected too. On them
 

Bassoe

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Perhaps, as he made Picard play Robin Hood Once, he recreates some event from Star Wars past/mythology and forces Sidious to actually handle difficult scenarios such as an apprentice far more powerful than himself that he can barely keep a lid on and needs to carefully finesse, ultimately Sidious can only actually win the trial by losing and accepting with joy that he's raised an apprentice more powerful than himself and thus strengthened the Sith.
The obvious win condition here would be for Palpatine to attempt to convince the simulacrum super-apprentice created for Q's scenario of their own unreality and the fact that they and their entire world would cease existing if Palpatine passed the test, then temporarily team up with them against Q to escape the simulation.
 
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