Pentagon releases Annual Report on Chinese Military Power: China Boasts Largest Navy In the World

[Husky_Khan]

While China boasts 350 ships, compared to the US Navy's 293, the metric may only account for raw number of boats as "only" 130 of the PLAN's ships are major surface combatants. Along with the continued expansion of the PLAN, the CCG (Chinese Coast Guard) is also expanding and uparming and even China's nuclear forces will potentially be seeing a doubling of their budget in the future increasingly not only the number of warheads but expanded delivery systems and other associated technology and equipment.

US DoD releases annual report on Chinese Military Power - Naval News

The Pentagon published its annual Report on Chinese Military Power on September 1st, detailing « staggering amounts of new military hardware » and a People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) which is now the world's most powerful naval force.

www.navalnews.com

There's a link to a PDF at the bottom of the article.

 

[Zachowon]

*laughs in American freedom*
There navy is large but not powerful enough.
Taking into account the lack of Aircraft carriers, and the lack of ability to project themselves around the world in a way we can, they are still no where near powerful enough to stand up to the US military, especially our Navy.

It seems they are counting total number of ships, and not the fact it is still not a full blue water Navy.

I dont trust any Unclassified info from the DoD. Never will

 

[PsihoKekec]

Most of Chinese ships are still brown water vessels, this is just material for Congress budget hearings.

 

[Zachowon]

Most of Chinese ships are still brown water vessels, this is just material for Congress budget hearings.

If ot increases our budget I'm not complaining

 

[PsihoKekec]

You are Army, this is Navy's shilling for increase of their budget and their's only. All branches do it.

 

[Zachowon]

You are Army, this is Navy's shilling for increase of their budget and their's only. All branches do it.

Look, this is a time when Every branch needs an increase in budget for what ever they can get. I swear I can feel a war brewing. A big one.

 

[Tiamat]

Look, this is a time when Every branch needs an increase in budget for what ever they can get. I swear I can feel a war brewing. A big one.

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Sad truth is though, I think you're right. Something's brewing on the horizon IMO. And it won't matter whether or not anyone wants to fight it, as certain events and factors have a nasty habit of taking on a life of their own.

 

[Zachowon]

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Sad truth is though, I think you're right. Something's brewing on the horizon IMO. And it won't matter whether or not anyone wants to fight it, as certain events and factors have a nasty habit of taking on a life of their own.

I'm ready. Seeing things growing worse, I am seeing a pattern that usually happens. One side griwimg yo threaten another to try and keep themselves stable in a troubling time

 

[Knowledgeispower]

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Sad truth is though, I think you're right. Something's brewing on the horizon IMO. And it won't matter whether or not anyone wants to fight it, as certain events and factors have a nasty habit of taking on a life of their own.

The next big war will probably be over either energy supplies or water or a combination thereof

 

[JagerIV]

*laughs in American freedom*
There navy is large but not powerful enough.
Taking into account the lack of Aircraft carriers, and the lack of ability to project themselves around the world in a way we can, they are still no where near powerful enough to stand up to the US military, especially our Navy.

It seems they are counting total number of ships, and not the fact it is still not a full blue water Navy.

I dont trust any Unclassified info from the DoD. Never will

Depends what you mean by "stand up to". Give us pause to push anything? They already definately have that.

 

[Tryglaw]

Most of Chinese ships are still brown water vessels, this is just material for Congress budget hearings.

Basically "gib monies" in High Pentagonese.

 

[Spartan303]

Most of Chinese ships are still brown water vessels, this is just material for Congress budget hearings.

Aren't we increasing the Navy to a 350 ship fleet? Steadily over the course of the next decade?

 

[Husky_Khan]

I did post what I found of the Chinese Navy (and Coast Guard) in the China War Theorycrafting Thread. They have been building a lot of new ships, including major surface combatants, but indeed most of their modern fleet is still smaller coastal vessels.

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/future-war-with-red-china-hypotheticals-theorycrafting.2656/#post-65420

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Aren't we increasing the Navy to a 350 ship fleet? Steadily over the course of the next decade?

Assuming we can find the money to pay for an increased shipbuilding budget(since the Colombia's will eat a massive chunk of the current money set aside for shipbuilding in the 2020s and early 2030s)and maning and maintaining said extra ships that's the plan

 

[JagerIV]

Do we have a comparison of the raw tonnage so far? That's probably a good place to look at comparisons. Also, does anyone have saved a comparison of numbers and tonnage between the US and USSR? Maybe USA and Japan in WWII? As a point of comparison for how much the relative power discrepancy is.

Of course, part of the concern is not necesarily where they are now, but where the trend lines are going. I'm pretty sure China was in "basically doesn't have a Navy" 20 years ago, and most of this build up happened in the last 10 years.

 

[Sailor.X]

Assuming we can find the money to pay for an increased shipbuilding budget(since the Colombia's will eat a massive chunk of the current money set aside for shipbuilding in the 2020s and early 2030s)and maning and maintaining said extra ships that's the plan

Easy tell China we aren't gonna repay them for the debt. Looky we now have the money to buy the ships

 

[Spartan303]

Easy tell China we aren't gonna repay them for the debt. Looky we now have the money to buy the ships

President Trump is pretty much likely to tell China to piss off at this rate.

 

[Sailor.X]

President Trump is pretty much likely to tell China to piss off at this rate.

Yep I can see that coming before the end of the year.