Alternate History Orson Welles' Batman

AndrewJTalon

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A ROB is at it again.

In an alternate 1940s, Orson Welles' The Stranger is delayed, and Welles has free time on his hands. He finds a few comic books in a doctor's office, and sees... Something in Batman. Something that in the hands of the right director, could be amazing. He really wants to stretch his creative abilities, to make a silly children's comic into an amazing film. He doesn't only just read the Batman comics, he also reads about ancient martial arts, and uses his knowledge of the classics to craft an idea: The Batman.

So, with a bit of jiggery pokery with RKO Pictures, Orson Welles gets his Batman film. It's cheap, but Orson is able to get help from stuntmen who want to try some new ideas that the heads at the studios have always ignored. He also by chance runs into a Chinese martial artist who fled his homeland during the war and who tells him about their martial arts traditions, which ignites the idea of a secret cult of assassins who could train Batman-With their leader, Ra's al Ghul (played by Vincent Price), and a femme fatale, his daughter Talia (Jane Russel). Noble Johnson, a very experienced black character actor, is chosen as Lucius Fox-Something Orson does to thumb his nose at the studio. Alfred Pennyworth is played ably by British actor Robertson Hare. The story (perhaps due to ROB interference) is broadly similar to Batman Begins with some Batman: Year One, the DCAU and Orson Welles' own creativity put together.

Despite the low budget and extremely low studio confidence, when released in 1946... Batman is a hit! Easily breaking box office records, the tragic tale that critics call "Zorro for the modern day" with a hero in a corrupt city he is trying to save connects with a Post-World War II audience easily. As a result, National Comics and Detective Comics are now in the movie business, and more villains from Batman's Rogues Gallery are either created or adapted.

What are these films like? What changes in pop culture result? What other films might result from this? Would there be a competing Marvel Cinematic Universe?
 

CarlManvers2019

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Would there be a competing Marvel Cinematic Universe?

Maybe not for a few more decades

That said, I think people may think of Batman as being "stand alone" or prefer him just being in his "mythos" wherein if other superheroes outside of the Bat-Family existed, then he'd somehow sound "unrealistic" or "unnecessary" and the like
 

S'task

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My biggest issue with this idea is that, well...

I think Orson Wells would have rejected Batman as a derivative hack character clearly based on a property he was already quite famous for...

The Shadow

I would also note that, well... I think it wouldn't have that much of an impact on how we view the character today. Why? Well, in the same period you're suggesting for this film, there were actually a few Shadow movies already out prior to WW2 and in the immediate aftermath. These haven't really persisted in popular culture. Granted, you're positing the movie basically get a blockbuster treatment before blockbusters were a thing, but I'm not sure it would last for very long outside of it's time. Very few movies from that period have...
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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The biggest fallout from this might be the rise of the underground comic based adaptations come the 60's and 70's. Especially with Eastood and Bronson making moral objectivist type heroes vogue again. Hollywood's new Gen might be a bit more pop cultural than avante garde which might curb some of the degeneracy.

Imagine a Tales from the Crypt anthology series featuring such illustrious directors as Kubrick, with new talents like that Speilberg kid, or Lucas...with the crypt Keeper voiced by Caesar Romero with the puppeteer work done by that brilliant Henson kid.

Desperately seeking to get out of the "child actor" roles she was consigned to, one Shirley Temple tries to break out as Barbara Gordon, aka Batgirl.

1971 - Orson Welles makes his triumphant return as an aging, broken Bruce Wayne. In a Gotham wracked by urban decay, corruption and intrigue. A young Terrance Chen must take up the mantle of the Batman to help Wayne restore justice to Gotham!

Starring Orson Welles as Bruce Wayne, Jack Nicholson in a dual role as the corrupt billionaire Derek Powers and the skeletal, radioactive Blight. Shirley Temple reprising her role as Barbara Gordon and Gregory Peck as Victor Fries.

And featuring Bruce Lee As Terrance Chen: Batman...Beyond
 
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