Newt Gingrich learns that you can’t mention George Soros on Fox News

[Deleted member 88]

Hmm, these bankers often have things in common no?

 

[GoldRanger]

The problem with cutting him off is that it empowers the idiots who see Jews behind every bad thing that has happened to mankind since the dawn of time...

Yep. Please, I'm begging you, discuss Soros and his influence and meddling in the political affairs of the USA and other countries to your hearts content. We need more transparency on these things, not less.

 

[Deleted member 88]

There have been evil forces at work at least for a century. If not more. Perhaps as much as 6,000 years.

Though definitely three or four hundred.

There are both human devils in the high places, and true devils above their heads.

Sinister forces that are waging war against all things Good, Beautiful, and True.

 

[GoldRanger]

Agreed. One of the most quoted quote by people who believe in the Jew conspiracy is this: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize

Palestinians?

 

[Aldarion]

There have been evil forces at work at least for a century. If not more. Perhaps as much as 6,000 years.

Though definitely three or four hundred.

There are both human devils in the high places, and true devils above their heads.

Sinister forces that are waging war against all things Good, Beautiful, and True.

That I think is a consequence of human psyche. Basically, people who get the power are usually precisely the people who shouldn't have it. And while in hereditary monarchy you at least get a chance - a roll of the dice - that next ruler will not be a psychopath (Byzantines OTOH ensured that by assassinating psychopath rulers), modern elective democracy ensures that rulers will always be psychopaths.

EDUT:

Hmm, these bankers often have things in common no?

They do. In fact, if you look at history from Roman Empire over Byzantine Empire, Francia, Holy Roman Empire to modern day, bankers always have been enemies of civilization.

 

[Cherico]

Palestinians?

the fact that they have a refugee aid system from the UN just for them after 3 generations is very telling.

For any one else if your parents were born in a place and you were born there your not a refugee your a native.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

It's a joke, about how it's seen as unacceptable to critize or speak badly of terminally ill children, therefore by this logic kids with leukemia are really the people pulling the world's strings.

Criticize a child with leukemia sometime; see what happens.

Ah, I see. Well I think its a bit of a stretch that you take this position to try and discredit the quotes point. The people its about have actual wealth and position. Sick kids don't.

“Rooted in” You must be here to troll. So what? If the accusations are true, then their “rootedness” doesn’t matter. You also misunderstood my post.

Soros backs all sorts of “progressive” causes-BLM, Antifa aligned groups, and numerous other forces of subversion and degeneracy.

The leftist position is that truth doesn't matter. What matters is the apparent racism behind it. So even if its the truth that 40k Orks are monsters, its still racism to hate them and to kill them all is fascism, xenophobia, racism, etc. Of course, this only applies to humanity, everyone else can get away with killing all Orks without issue for some reason.

 

[Certified_Heterosexual]

Ah, I see. Well I think its a bit of a stretch that you take this position to try and discredit the quotes point. The people its about have actual wealth and position. Sick kids don't.

It was a joke, you colossal goober.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

It was a joke, you colossal goober.

I got that cause @Battlegrinder already stated that its a joke. I'm just saying that the joke takes a position and tries to stretch it to a point of absurdity and not even a funny one. There is nothing funny about sick kids.

 

[Deleted member 88]

There is nothing funny about sick kids.

You’ve obviously never met any.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

You’ve obviously never met any.

In this specific case, its kids with leukemia and all. Not children with colds.

So depressing stuff at least to me.

 

[Cherico]

You’ve obviously never met any.

I have kids with cancer often have a dark sense of humor.

 

[Deleted member 88]

In this specific case, its kids with leukemia and all. Not children with colds.

So depressing stuff at least to me.

Did Not Get The Joke.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Did Not Get The Joke.

*shrug*

This is the joke:

We must destroy the Children-with-Leukemia-Occupied Government.

and the explanation is below.

It's a joke, about how it's seen as unacceptable to critize or speak badly of terminally ill children, therefore by this logic kids with leukemia are really the people pulling the world's strings.

Its not particularly funny to me which is why the absurdity of it catches my eye.

If you find this funny? Ok. I don't feel much of anything from it. Sorry if this makes me a fool *shrug*

 

[ShieldWife]

None of this is remotely true. There is no evidence that Soros is funding anyone involved in the riots. He's simply a mythical boogeyman. And as for politicians "deliberately aiding and abetting... rioters", if you actually cared to look you'd see that violence and property damage has been pretty much universally condemned among Democrats.

The only thing that's being said in addition to that is that some have said that violence is a frustrated reaction to issues surrounding racism and police brutality. That doesn't change the fact that they've condemned violence and still called for the perpetrators to be punished, or that they've publicly advocated purely for peaceful protests. It just means that they've acknowledged the reasons for why people are angry.

I don't know the degree to which Soros is funding the riots or how much he is funding officials who aid and abet the riots. He does contribute to both to some degree, along with likely many other powerful people and organizations who fund left wing extremism who don't receive as much attention as Soros does.

Of course, if directly confronted on the issue, most mainstream leftist politicians will condemn violence. Then again, they will overwhelmingly support the movements causing the violence, they will downplay the violence, ignore it, justify it, help the perpetrators, spread the same lies that incites the violence.

The riots are only possible because big money and power are supporting them. Criminals are being released without being prosecuted. Police are being ordered to stand down. People who defend themselves or their businesses are being targeted for prosecution instead. The media is coordinating their lies to incite these riots too. This chaos and violence isn't just the result of people spontaneously protesting, it is coordinated by people with money and power. Is George Soros one of those people? Certainly, but I don't know how big his role is. Ideally, I would like to see the FBI use anti-organized crime laws to find out who is funding and organizing these riots and throw the book at them.

No, George Soros wasn't a Nazi collaborator. This is a particularly pernicious myth. He was born on August 12th 1930, so he was only just 9 when WWII broke out, and only just 10 when Hungary joined the Axis powers. He was only 13 when Germany occupied Hungary.

He didn't "point out the property of wealthy Jews for seizure by the Germans". He, alongside many other Jewish children, were forced to work as couriers for the Judenrat, the Nazi organisation which controlled Jewish communities across Europe.

As he described in interviews, "The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper ... I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, 'You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported'."

He wasn't a collaborator: he was a child forced to deliver notices to other Jewish families. And in his own words, and those of his father, he also took the opportunity warn those targeted so that they could try to escape. He didn't even work as a courier for more than a few months, as his family later went into hiding and posed as Christians in order to survive the war, with Soros claiming to be the Christian godson of a Hungarian official, who was also hiding his Jewish wife.

I may differ in opinion from others on this site regarding that, but I don't know or care if he collaborated with Nazis when he was 14 or less. If he did, he was a minor living a terrible time doing what he had to do to survive, like millions of others did. I would rather blame him for the terrible things that he has done as an adult, not a kid.

Currency speculation is no different really from any other form of financial trading; are you going to suggest that anyone who buys and sells stocks and shares should also be killed?

Sure, Soros profited from the pound collapsing, but that was only because of actual fundamental issues that he didn't cause, namely the reluctance of the UK government to either raise interest rates or float its currency. Had it done so, and followed sound economic policy and fiscal advice, there never would have been a crisis in the first place.

George Soros became a billionaire, one of the most influential men in the world in fact, by playing a zero sum game. He gets rich when others, mostly middle class people, get poorer. He's not like a billionaire who owns businesses that produce products that people need like food or cars, they get rich by giving other people a higher standard of living. Soros gets rich by lowering the standards of living of others. He is part of the parasitic wealthy. He is like a casino owner but worse because with a casino you at least have a choice in whether or not you gamble, people don't have a choice about whether or not they use currency and are punished if they don't invest.

Should such speculation be illegal? I don't know, probably not, but its a complex question. Once you get to the level of George Soros' wealth and power, you aren't just a passive spectator in the economy, but can actively influence the value of currency, stocks, or commodities.

People complaining about how Soros got wealthy have a good point. He's getting rich in exactly the way that liberals like to think that all rich people got money, by making other people poorer.

If you want to say that criticism of George Soros is legitimate and isn't rooted in antisemitism, then it would help if actual criticism of him, as evident in this thread, wasn't based almost entirely on vile antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Hardly anyone, and nobody here, has said that George Soros is bad because he's a Jew. He does spend outrageous amounts of money on left wing causes. That is a fact and his ethnicity is irrelevant to that. He got his money in questionable ways, that is also true regardless of his ethnicity. People dislike Soros for what he does.

I don't like George Soros, Karl Marx, Michael Bloomburg or Harvey Weinstein for that matter. Do I dislike them because they are Jewish. On the other hand, I like Jonas Salk, Paul Gottfried, John Stossel, and Murray Rothbard. Maybe who I like or dislike has more to do with their beliefs and actions than ethnicity? That likely goes for everybody else here too.

If you said that people have a partisan bias against George Soros, there may be some basis to that claim. People on the right are no doubt more critical of George Soros than they might be of right wing billionaire political activists, like the Koch brothers. I don't think that many people would have a different opinion about George Soros if he were a WASP.

Is the criticism of Soros based on antisemitic conspiracies? Well, the criticism is mostly true, and George Soros does indeed act like an antisemitic stereotype, but that is no reason not to criticize him for it. If a black man is in a gang, commits lots of crimes, and has illegitimate kids - you can criticize him for those things even though they are negative black stereotypes. If a gay man is extremely promiscuous and effeminate, you can discuss or criticize those things despite them being stereotypes of gay men. I could go on listing dozens of examples of people acting stereotypically for some demographic group that they are a part of and in all of those cases, it is fine to judge those people on their actions.

 

[Cherico]

all I ask Sheild wife is for people to hate Soros because he's an asshole instead of hating him because hes ethnically jewish.

 

[ShieldWife]

all I ask Sheild wife is for people to hate Soros because he's an asshole instead of hating him because hes ethnically jewish.

Absolutely.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Unfortunately, there is an increasing current even in more mainstream conservative circles that brings up, cautiously, awkwardly, fearfully, the “Jewish matter”.

Because Jewish involvement in leftist causes is undeniable, Jewish animosity(at least written) towards Christianity is known in the Talmud, and perhaps even more inflammatory, Jewish animosity for, or hate for Whites/Europeans is strongly perceived to exist. And you can find dozens of alleged quotations(from Jews) on the internet from the far right confirming these suspicions.

As things go on, many conservatives have begun to accept these premises, reluctantly and in whispered tones.

I find that most unfortunate, but people can’t forget what they observe. Or the patterns they see.

True or not.

As the west becomes more Balkanized, many White right wingers will begin to form a more...20th century opinion on the Jewish people.

I don’t think that’s a good thing. But it is happening.

I think the problem is that many of these new so called "Right-wing" have began to buy into the premise of BLM. In short the Jew has become the white man's white man. "If it wasin't for the dirty jew, I'd have my forty acres and a mule" (Seriously change the races and that will sound awfully familar.)

the problem with this is that it's just not the case. Here is a little secret. People within the 1% don't use the internet outside of business perspectives. They don't socialize on 4chans or reddit forums, they are too busy wheeling and dealing or snorting drugs while on holiday.

but it's easier to blame somebody else for all your problems than it is to admit you don't have the drive, desire or discipline to do what it takes to make it to the top.

 

[Navarro]

I think the problem is that many of these new so called "Right-wing" have began to buy into the premise of BLM. In short the Jew has become the white man's white man. "If it wasin't for the dirty jew, I'd have my forty acres and a mule" (Seriously change the races and that will sound awfully familar.)

the problem with this is that it's just not the case. Here is a little secret. People within the 1% don't use the internet outside of business perspectives. They don't socialize on 4chans or reddit forums, they are too busy wheeling and dealing or snorting drugs while on holiday.

but it's easier to blame somebody else for all your problems than it is to admit you don't have the drive, desire or discipline to do what it takes to make it to the top.

It's the fundamental basis of socialism - "all the problems in my life are caused by the invisible, non-specific oppression done by this specific group".

 

[Rocinante]

*shrug*

This is the joke:

We must destroy the Children-with-Leukemia-Occupied Government.

and the explanation is below.

It's a joke, about how it's seen as unacceptable to critize or speak badly of terminally ill children, therefore by this logic kids with leukemia are really the people pulling the world's strings.

Its not particularly funny to me which is why the absurdity of it catches my eye.

If you find this funny? Ok. I don't feel much of anything from it. Sorry if this makes me a fool *shrug*

"You've obviously never met any" was yet another joke.