Musk actually buys Twitter.

[Rocinante]

You can literally use Twitter through a browser window on your phone. There is no need to develop his own app store.

They're collecting ad data on you. This is how they make money.

You can collect more, better data, if you can get people to install an app.

I recently tried to talk with people saying that Musk is far right and "possibly outright white supremacist".

I mentioned that Musk is obviously centrist, he even supports DeSantis over Trump (I was not even defending trumpism or alternative right).

They now assure me that DeSantis is also just a fascist, and in fact... half of people in the United States just love fascism. My question if beating these fascists ("direct action") is justifable under their framework, and if they truly understand consequences of such wide definition... remains without answer.

...I'm not even Conservative, I'm mostly in-between neoliberal and libertarian, but now like 60 people dogpile on me suggesting that I'm probably a fascist. Psychology of a mob.

I don't consider myself conservative either, but here I am on this site hanging with conservatives because the lefties I used to be friends with have all decided I'm a racist, fascist, nazi conspiracy theorist.

 

[liberty90]

Regardless of definitions and classifications, some people should hear a true white supremacist (extremely disgusting ideology, to be clear) saying to them that blacks belong in Africa, on cotton plantations or in cages. Then maaaybe they would start to understand what white nationalism is and why opposition to riots ("direct antifascist action") is not inherently white supremacist.

 

[Buba]

blacks belong in Africa, on cotton plantations or in cages.

I know some people like that. My local barber, for instance.
In spite of being banned at half a dozen or more sites for being a racist-fascist-homphopobic-AGW&COVID denying puppy killer, I take my hair grooming custom elsewhere.

 

[Bacle]

I recently tried to talk with people saying that Musk is far right and "possibly outright white supremacist".

I mentioned that Musk is obviously centrist, he even supports DeSantis over Trump (I was not even defending trumpism or alternative right).

They now assure me that DeSantis is also just a fascist, and in fact... half of people in the United States just love fascism. My question if beating these fascists ("direct action") is justifable under their framework, and if they truly understand consequences of such wide definition... remains without answer.

...I'm not even Conservative, I'm mostly in-between neoliberal and libertarian, but now like 60 people dogpile on me suggesting that I'm probably a fascist. Psychology of a mob.

Ah, so now you too know what it is like to break the Far-left echochamber and what happens to those on the Left who do not submit to the lies of the progressives.

Guess how I ended up on the 'Right'.

 

[Cherico]

Ah, so now you too know what it is like to break the Far-left echochamber and what happens to those on the Left who do not submit to the lies of the progressives.

Guess how I ended up on the 'Right'.

Its actually a pretty common story.

I mean that's how reagan ended up on the right as well, left wing establishments often by nature create their own opasition, and honestly there is no stronger beliver then a convert who was knifed in the back.

 

[Jormungandr]

Ah, so now you too know what it is like to break the Far-left echochamber and what happens to those on the Left who do not submit to the lies of the progressives.

Guess how I ended up on the 'Right'.

Yep.

As soon as you break ranks, or have a spark of independent thought which goes against their narrative, you're immediately labeled as an outsider to be scorned.

There's a reason why people call those on the Left NPC's or Leftoids -- they're proverbially a bunch of brainless drones that are programmed to regurgitate words and views like lobotomized paraquettes.

 

[Karmic Acumen]

Apparently, the count of banned Antifa accounts is now over 14.

 

[Cherico]

Apparently, the count of banned Antifa accounts is now over 14.

since they gladly worked to ban anyone who disagreed with them?

 

[mrttao]

Regardless of definitions and classifications, some people should hear a true white supremacist (extremely disgusting ideology, to be clear) saying to them that blacks belong in Africa, on cotton plantations or in cages. Then maaaybe they would start to understand what white nationalism is and why opposition to riots ("direct antifascist action") is not inherently white supremacist.

They just take it as proof that everyone not part of their cult is exactly like that.
Then write articles "conservatives prove they are even worse than we thought" and so on.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

As far as Musk's politics go, I think people too easily overlook that he's not only not American, but not truly a Westerner at all. He was born and raised entirely in the upper class of apartheid era South Africa, spending all of his formative years there before moving to Canada to exploit his mother's (technical) citizenship and then the United States.

His politics are, I suspect, fundamentally those of a moderate white South African, and mostly revolve around, "I'm a member of the true aristocracy, intellectually superior to practically everyone around me. I do as I see fit and am surprised when the government tries to actually restrain me, much less when all these lowly peasants backtalk me."

 

[Rocinante]

As far as Musk's politics go, I think people too easily overlook that he's not only not American, but not truly a Westerner at all. He was born and raised entirely in the upper class of apartheid era South Africa, spending all of his formative years there before moving to Canada to exploit his mother's (technical) citizenship and then the United States.

His politics are, I suspect, fundamentally those of a moderate white South African, and mostly revolve around, "I'm a member of the true aristocracy, intellectually superior to practically everyone around me. I do as I see fit and am surprised when the government tries to actually restrain me, much less when all these lowly peasants backtalk me."

Personally, I am proud that the world's richest man is an African American.

 

[Bigking321]

I don't like some stuff he advocates for but if it's him vs the evil globalists?

GO ELON!!!

 

[Agent23]

As far as Musk's politics go, I think people too easily overlook that he's not only not American, but not truly a Westerner at all. He was born and raised entirely in the upper class of apartheid era South Africa, spending all of his formative years there before moving to Canada to exploit his mother's (technical) citizenship and then the United States.

His politics are, I suspect, fundamentally those of a moderate white South African, and mostly revolve around, "I'm a member of the true aristocracy, intellectually superior to practically everyone around me. I do as I see fit and am surprised when the government tries to actually restrain me, much less when all these lowly peasants backtalk me."

I think Musk's politics are basically best summed into 'Whatever brings Musk the most money and notoriety.'

Also:

 

[shangrila]

As far as Musk's politics go, I think people too easily overlook that he's not only not American, but not truly a Westerner at all. He was born and raised entirely in the upper class of apartheid era South Africa, spending all of his formative years there before moving to Canada to exploit his mother's (technical) citizenship and then the United States.

His politics are, I suspect, fundamentally those of a moderate white South African, and mostly revolve around, "I'm a member of the true aristocracy, intellectually superior to practically everyone around me. I do as I see fit and am surprised when the government tries to actually restrain me, much less when all these lowly peasants backtalk me."

Heinleinian Libertarian ubermensch is as American as it gets. Lol at the idea that a family associated with the apartheid era white opposition would ever be surprised at government restraint, either before or after ANP rule. That's all pure American.

Elon Musk is, in the irony of ironies, the most American American to reach the American elite in decades. Because he got his idea of Americanism from the triumphal science fiction from the 50s and 60s, not the American education system, much less the elite circles.

Even his enemies can only analogize him to people like Howard Hughes or (the modern leftist conception of)Thomas Edison or (the fictional)Andrew Ryan, all quintessentially American in their perceived failures and excesses.

 

[bintananth]

As far as Musk's politics go, I think people too easily overlook that he's not only not American, but not truly a Westerner at all. He was born and raised entirely in the upper class of apartheid era South Africa, spending all of his formative years there before moving to Canada to exploit his mother's (technical) citizenship and then the United States.

His politics are, I suspect, fundamentally those of a moderate white South African, and mostly revolve around, "I'm a member of the true aristocracy, intellectually superior to practically everyone around me. I do as I see fit and am surprised when the government tries to actually restrain me, much less when all these lowly peasants backtalk me."

Dave Matthews is also white and from South Africa:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/life-as-a-black-dave-matthews-band-fan/2013/07/26/cc775722-f554-11e2-aa2e-4088616498b4_story.html

I couldn't find video of it, but he once ranted to the audience that yes, he is African and don't you forget it.

 

[Sobek]

Musk's Apartheid upbringing and South African origins might also explain his distaste for the modern leftist indentity politics. He has seen, in person, the effects of both white-centric racial superiority complex politics and victimhood enabling, "muh reparashuns" and "gotta make whitey pay" of anti-white racism.

Further, Musk is a perfect example of "the enemy of my enemy" in action. He doesn't really like us, we don't really like him. But both conservatives and Musk understand that at least they can speak with each other in a "loyal opposition" way, that we can honestly try and coexist and do trades. The Globalist left monster has no such attitude. Submit or die.

 

[AmosTrask]

Personally, I am proud that the world's richest man is an African American.

No. He's a Boer. They don't consider themselves African.

 

[ATP]

I recently tried to talk with people saying that Musk is far right and "possibly outright white supremacist".

I mentioned that Musk is obviously centrist, he even supports DeSantis over Trump (I was not even defending trumpism or alternative right).

They now assure me that DeSantis is also just a fascist, and in fact... half of people in the United States just love fascism. My question if beating these fascists ("direct action") is justifable under their framework, and if they truly understand consequences of such wide definition... remains without answer.

...I'm not even Conservative, I'm mostly in-between neoliberal and libertarian, but now like 60 people dogpile on me suggesting that I'm probably a fascist. Psychology of a mob.

Leftist thinking.If you do not follow them,you are fascist,period.

A mob is only as smart as its dumbest member. Also, Fascism was a LEFT-leaning ideology. Socialism, communism, and Fascism are all left ideologies. A central bureaucracy runs everything. You are told by the central committee where to live, where to wor, and how much your work is worth.

Yes,like Mussolini said - everything through state and for state.Formally private companies did what state wanted.

 

[Buba]

a Boer. They don't consider themselves African.

As evidenced by their name, Afrikaner, and the language they speak - Afrikaans.

 

[Battlegrinder]

As far as Musk's politics go, I think people too easily overlook that he's not only not American, but not truly a Westerner at all. He was born and raised entirely in the upper class of apartheid era South Africa, spending all of his formative years there before moving to Canada to exploit his mother's (technical) citizenship and then the United States.

His politics are, I suspect, fundamentally those of a moderate white South African, and mostly revolve around, "I'm a member of the true aristocracy, intellectually superior to practically everyone around me. I do as I see fit and am surprised when the government tries to actually restrain me, much less when all these lowly peasants backtalk me."

That's possible, yes.

That said, he left when he was 17 and was in his earlier 20s when the apartheid era ended, and when guys in their 50s look back on their political opinions as a teenager/20 something, the most common reaction is not "Yeap, I nailed it, totally understand everything back then and had a good handle on the world back then, haven't changed anything since then".