The human parts were pretty bad, especially the godzilla team side. They should have just had the human bad guys be actually good and that sides pov characters.
The monster stuff was amazing, especially when <redacted> went and <redacted>. Great stuff.
Yeah I saw the movie Saturday night, yesterday, with a young in and while they thought it was the greatest movie ever and keeps saying "One must fall" over and over again, I will say this might be the best Monsterverse film yet. Godzilla 2014 might be the best crafted movie but this one actually delivered on the monster action... after three substandard attempts.
I did like the movie, it was entertaining. It's still deeply flawed but it was better then the last two Monsterverse movies. If you want actual Kaiju fighting onscreen, this film will not disappoint. With that said, despite being two hours long or whatever (actually it was probably shorter) it could've cut a LOT out... and all of that it could've cut out was Human plotlines. Like one of the two Human plotlines was dumb and derivative and felt like it could've been excised or cut from the movie almost in its entirety. With that said the other plotline was pretty interesting with the Humans interacting with King Kong and dealing with Kong stuff and their wacky journey.
There were huge leaps of logic, random things thrown in, things that happened before the movie and offscreen to setup plots here that weren't even hinted at in previous films and all of the other nonsense that splashy, bloated, expensive blockbuster movies do nowadays... but this one is better because at least one of the two storylines was interesting (or fun) despite all of the flaws... and actually showed long Kaiju battles which is what this series is supposed to be about instead of cutting to boring Human shit and their shitty Human problems. The main improvement of this film is the Human drama exists SOLELY to bring Kaiju to fight each other as the Kaiju Gods intended.
You can also see them fighting. No more quick shots and cuts and snow levels or places covered in mist or fog or smoke or perpetual night battles. Everything is bright, even in the neon night cities so you can actually see them fighting.
This film could've been easily two movies (though probably not because of the Toho license lol). Godzilla was cool but this was Kong's movie. Both were great though. Godzilla was almost anthropomorphized in the previous films, even the first one, as being almost too personable and the like. In this one though, he's the King Lizard that he should be and far less relatable and more ornery then ever.
Also I saw the movie in theaters and the theater surround sound was AMAZING. Super loud... but amazing.
I thought it was bad to be honest, although the monster fights were good. The poor acting, lack of a coherent plot and the mediocre world building attempts though just ruined it for me; one thing that bothered me, and admittedly this is a minor detail, is how when Godzilla makes landfall in the final city they say they are evacuating everyone....only to show well into a fight people having to stop their dinner in a skyline restaurant to run from terror. To cap that off, as the second fight of in said city occurs in the daytime, people are still being shown to be walking the streets like normal until the Kaiju action spreads to them.
Big dumb popcorn movie that delivers on monster-fights unlike previous attempts...And definitely leaves physics at the door (Just...the first fight. Really?).
Best of this whole brand of monster-movies. Not a good movie. But cool dumb stuff happening.
Big positive it probably gets in my mind is being released in theaters and my part of the country generally being out of most Wuhan flu stuff, so there was actually a half-full or so theater and fresh popcorn and generally the feeling of a new movie instead of me, friends, and, like, two other tiny groups of people watching Classics (as the local movie theater in my area has been doing to keep some business).
Like one of the two Human plotlines was dumb and derivative and felt like it could've been excised or cut from the movie almost in its entirety. With that said the other plotline was pretty interesting with the Humans interacting with King Kong and dealing with Kong stuff and their wacky journey.
Nay! Nay I say! The humans interacting with Kong was the dumb and derivative bit of the movie. Blah, blah, blah, giant monster getting anthropomorphized with hopes and dreams, selfish humans get their karmic due, blah, blah, blah. Spunky teenager, friend, and conspiracy-theorist going on Scooby Doo-style quest into shady corporation bent on world domination to unravel a mystery is the superior human plotline. They just visibly embraced silliness with it.
Which, in that general vein...
That plotline has the 'Mechagodzilla is controlled by two Ghidorah-heads that communicate' reveal...Do they ever allude to the third head? Or was there something I forgot from the prior film that axed that (did one head get crushed or something? Because I kept expecting that to be another last-minute reveal of some kind, but it...wasn't... Unless I just missed it entirely because that was explained in the middle of BIG DUMB ACTION SCENE MONKEY VERSUS LIZARD VERSUS ROBOT
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Big dumb popcorn movie that delivers on monster-fights unlike previous attempts...And definitely leaves physics at the door (Just...the first fight. Really?).
Best of this whole brand of monster-movies. Not a good movie. But cool dumb stuff happening.
Big positive it probably gets in my mind is being released in theaters and my part of the country generally being out of most Wuhan flu stuff, so there was actually a half-full or so theater and fresh popcorn and generally the feeling of a new movie instead of me, friends, and, like, two other tiny groups of people watching Classics (as the local movie theater in my area has been doing to keep some business).
Nay! Nay I say! The humans interacting with Kong was the dumb and derivative bit of the movie. Blah, blah, blah, giant monster getting anthropomorphized with hopes and dreams, selfish humans get their karmic due, blah, blah, blah. Spunky teenager, friend, and conspiracy-theorist going on Scooby Doo-style quest into shady corporation bent on world domination to unravel a mystery is the superior human plotline. They just visibly embraced silliness with it.
Which, in that general vein...
That plotline has the 'Mechagodzilla is controlled by two Ghidorah-heads that communicate' reveal...Do they ever allude to the third head? Or was there something I forgot from the prior film that axed that (did one head get crushed or something? Because I kept expecting that to be another last-minute reveal of some kind, but it...wasn't... Unless I just missed it entirely because that was explained in the middle of BIG DUMB ACTION SCENE MONKEY VERSUS LIZARD VERSUS ROBOT
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I thought it was bad to be honest, although the monster fights were good. The poor acting, lack of a coherent plot and the mediocre world building attempts though just ruined it for me; one thing that bothered me, and admittedly this is a minor detail, is how when Godzilla makes landfall in the final city they say they are evacuating everyone....only to show well into the fight people having to stop their dinner in a skyline restaurant to run in terror. To cap that off, as the second fight in said city occurs in the daytime, people are still being shown to be walking the streets like normal until the Kaiju action spreads to them.
Realistically, you flat out could not evacuate people in a meaningful timeframe.
Even in ideal circumstances, everyone in a multi-million pop city simply can't leave, even in days - traffic would be too swamped, cities aren't built for even a fraction of their pop to be on the road at the same time.
Coastal city like Hong Kong? The situation gets so much worse.
Nay! Nay I say! The humans interacting with Kong was the dumb and derivative bit of the movie. Blah, blah, blah, giant monster getting anthropomorphized with hopes and dreams, selfish humans get their karmic due, blah, blah, blah. Spunky teenager, friend, and conspiracy-theorist going on Scooby Doo-style quest into shady corporation bent on world domination to unravel a mystery is the superior human plotline. They just visibly embraced silliness with it.
The fact it was a Scooby Doo style quest was what was wrong with it. They didn't actually do anything except walk and bumble into things. Even in Scooby Doo they bumble into things with intent, not pure happenstance.
Millie Bobbie Brown (I already forgot her characters name) has some eccentric portly ambiguously ethnic friend who will never be a love interest who steals an eccentric looking van and they somehow meet the equally portly and eccentric other comic relief character you always see in movies like this, but not as funny. The three of them wander into the wreckage of the facility and find the door, and go through it and find the full functional lab unguarded and without difficulty or thinking, then end up in a supersonic traincar and... end up in Hong Kong and see more things... and then they wander around and finally get captured. They're basically glorified cameramenpersons with a vehicle for extremely cringe dialogue and failed attempts at humor. It's like the Flash talking about Brunch only more gags about liquor and tap water... which worked even less.
The two portly dudes were supposed to be comic relief but none of the three actually did anything of any consequence except act as plot exposition which you could've just as easily done by focusing on the evil generic corporate (cloak wearing) villain himself. Like I'm not even sure what pouring the booze to short circuit the keyboard actually did. I get the plot said it weakened him but I didn't see any tangible correlation beyond the Kaiju duo like... winning the fight after having been losing it earlier.
Sorry, it was so generic and forced and reminded me of a Bayformers or something, only these characters didn't actually do anything except walk about and make failed jokes. Like the only humorous comment I can remember them making is the tap water gag which actually wasn't funny.
CONVERSELY while I loathe excessive anthropomorphizing of Kaiju (it was one of my quibbles with Godzilla in the Monsterverse) I actually don't see a problem with it in regards to King Kong since he is a giant ape and there's likely more relatable stuff going on there. Plus the brown deaf girl was far more interesting a character then MBB and friends. And there were some great visuals and set pieces. I really liked the Battle of the Fleet and wished there was even more. I liked the Author character (who was fairly generic) who had a bit of a character arc and the humor interwoven with it in that with the sign language that was used in reference to him.
The corporate lady was painfully generic of course but I liked the scenes of Kong doing the sign language and insight into his character and even lounging about, eating loads of fish. There was the plothole of flying him to Antarctica (probably on those infinite range helicopters they used in Godzilla: King of Monsters but having Kong head down those tunnels (based on the idea of homing pigeons or salmon... yeah sure okay whatever) to find his family and the stupid nonsensical hovercraft going through a warp tunnel... uhhh whatever... but I dug the exploration of the Hollow Earth and the guys just accompanying King Kong on his journey of exploration of what was apparently his original home.
BUT THEN... of course we had to bring the two storylines together. Godzilla can apparently sense Kong through the Mantle of the Earth and melts a hole into his homeland? Boring Slutty Corporate Lady can take a sample of the magic element and e-mail it to the evil corporation and they synthesize it immediately.... when all of the characters show up in Hong Kong, everyone but MBB is like.... whose the giant Robot Lizard? Yeah ofc... because we spent half the movie trekking about desperately following MBB's Stranger Things star power.
Watching the movie, I would've loved it just being about King Kong again and maybe fighting Godzilla as the secondary character. Like they skimmed over how the natives and the entire Skull Island was wiped out by a storm offscreen. And they had the whole Hollow Earth thing introduced properly and left under explored. You could've just had King Kong leaving Skull Island, fighting Godzilla en route and getting his ass kicked and then spending his time exploring the Hollow Earth and Godzilla maybe shows up at the end and Kong beats him or whatever so Godzilla rules on the surface and King Kong in the Hollow Earth.
I get they couldn't do that because they had a time limited deal with Toho but like all Hollywood movies, they jammed in like three or four storylines. Also... we never got insight into Serizawa's Son and why he was working with the evil corporation. It was never explored, his relationship with his father and his work or anything. He was basically just there and spouting out some lines about Salmon and getting his brain fried. Mechagodzilla could've been its own movie.
/Rant Over.
Still a good movie. Probably the best entertaining Monsterverse movie yet. And maybe the best Monsterverse movie in general to be perfectly honest since it still delivers what the fans wanted the most I feel.
Which, in that general vein...
That plotline has the 'Mechagodzilla is controlled by two Ghidorah-heads that communicate' reveal...Do they ever allude to the third head? Or was there something I forgot from the prior film that axed that (did one head get crushed or something? Because I kept expecting that to be another last-minute reveal of some kind, but it...wasn't... Unless I just missed it entirely because that was explained in the middle of BIG DUMB ACTION SCENE MONKEY VERSUS LIZARD VERSUS ROBOT
/
Yeah... one head was lost at the Oxygen Destroyer area IIRC, and Godzilla ate one IIRC... or maybe just engaged in enough avulsion that it was rendered unusable.
The fact it was a Scooby Doo style quest was what was wrong with it. They didn't actually do anything except walk and bumble into things. Even in Scooby Doo they bumble into things with intent, not pure happenstance.
Millie Bobbie Brown (I already forgot her characters name) has some eccentric portly ambiguously ethnic friend who will never be a love interest who steals an eccentric looking van and they somehow meet the equally portly and eccentric other comic relief character you always see in movies like this, but not as funny. The three of them wander into the wreckage of the facility and find the door, and go through it and find the full functional lab unguarded and without difficulty or thinking, then end up in a supersonic traincar and... end up in Hong Kong and see more things... and then they wander around and finally get captured. They're basically glorified cameramenpersons with a vehicle for extremely cringe dialogue and failed attempts at humor. It's like the Flash talking about Brunch only more gags about liquor and tap water... which worked even less.
The two portly dudes were supposed to be comic relief but none of the three actually did anything of any consequence except act as plot exposition which you could've just as easily done by focusing on the evil generic corporate (cloak wearing) villain himself. Like I'm not even sure what pouring the booze to short circuit the keyboard actually did. I get the plot said it weakened him but I didn't see any tangible correlation beyond the Kaiju duo like... winning the fight after having been losing it earlier.
Sorry, it was so generic and forced and reminded me of a Bayformers or something, only these characters didn't actually do anything except walk about and make failed jokes. Like the only humorous comment I can remember them making is the tap water gag which actually wasn't funny.
CONVERSELY while I loathe excessive anthropomorphizing of Kaiju (it was one of my quibbles with Godzilla in the Monsterverse) I actually don't see a problem with it in regards to King Kong since he is a giant ape and there's likely more relatable stuff going on there. Plus the brown deaf girl was far more interesting a character then MBB and friends. And there were some great visuals and set pieces. I really liked the Battle of the Fleet and wished there was even more. I liked the Author character (who was fairly generic) who had a bit of a character arc and the humor interwoven with it in that with the sign language that was used in reference to him.
The corporate lady was painfully generic of course but I liked the scenes of Kong doing the sign language and insight into his character and even lounging about, eating loads of fish. There was the plothole of flying him to Antarctica (probably on those infinite range helicopters they used in Godzilla: King of Monsters but having Kong head down those tunnels (based on the idea of homing pigeons or salmon... yeah sure okay whatever) to find his family and the stupid nonsensical hovercraft going through a warp tunnel... uhhh whatever... but I dug the exploration of the Hollow Earth and the guys just accompanying King Kong on his journey of exploration of what was apparently his original home.
BUT THEN... of course we had to bring the two storylines together. Godzilla can apparently sense Kong through the Mantle of the Earth and melts a hole into his homeland? Boring Slutty Corporate Lady can take a sample of the magic element and e-mail it to the evil corporation and they synthesize it immediately.... when all of the characters show up in Hong Kong, everyone but MBB is like.... whose the giant Robot Lizard? Yeah ofc... because we spent half the movie trekking about desperately following MBB's Stranger Things star power.
Watching the movie, I would've loved it just being about King Kong again and maybe fighting Godzilla as the secondary character. Like they skimmed over how the natives and the entire Skull Island was wiped out by a storm offscreen. And they had the whole Hollow Earth thing introduced properly and left under explored. You could've just had King Kong leaving Skull Island, fighting Godzilla en route and getting his ass kicked and then spending his time exploring the Hollow Earth and Godzilla maybe shows up at the end and Kong beats him or whatever so Godzilla rules on the surface and King Kong in the Hollow Earth.
I get they couldn't do that because they had a time limited deal with Toho but like all Hollywood movies, they jammed in like three or four storylines. Also... we never got insight into Serizawa's Son and why he was working with the evil corporation. It was never explored, his relationship with his father and his work or anything. He was basically just there and spouting out some lines about Salmon and getting his brain fried. Mechagodzilla could've been its own movie.
/Rant Over.
Still a good movie. Probably the best entertaining Monsterverse movie yet. And maybe the best Monsterverse movie in general to be perfectly honest since it still delivers what the fans wanted the most I feel.
Yeah... one head was lost at the Oxygen Destroyer area IIRC, and Godzilla ate one IIRC... or maybe just engaged in enough avulsion that it was rendered unusable.
