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An offer of peace by Egypt has failed. The GNA seems to have the initiative now.



Not sure how widespread this is, but there have been anti regime protests in Syria again. Omar al Bashir fell after weathering the Arab Spring in 2011-2012.

Bashar al-Assad has exhausted his resources and now relies on playing his allies against each other-who have sunk a lot of money and blood into keeping him around.

If a renewed wave of unrest in Syria occurs-I can see the Russians, and potentially the Iranians deciding to drop Assad and let some military transitional leadership take over. Deciding that more fighting is just not worth it and they(Russia and Iran) have bigger problems at the moment. I doubt we'd see another civil war. If only because even the people out on the streets now have neither the backing or resources to mount an uprising again.

However in Sudan's case-the rising cost of food, alongside divisions in the regime, and the fact that the demonstrators had more or less coalesced behind civil society middle class respectables, meant Bashir was unable to crush them. At least not due to the fact that the desperation due to food costs had made the people willing to endure the police and Janjaweed and not retreat or break, even if a thousand people got killed. They couldn't afford to lose.

Once that became clear-is when Sudan's military brass turned on Omar al-Bashir.

If a similar situation happens in Syria I suspect his foreign backers will weigh the costs of supporting him with no hope of getting any return on investment vs cutting him loose and doing the bare minimum to at least get a government that won't be pro America or western.
 

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The coup in North Sudan was basically a succession struggle (like in Zimbabwe), with defense minister securing his power and he will probably outmanoeuvre the civilians in the government.

Bashar in Syria never held a real power unlike his father, but was only a public face for the junta that is running the country. It's possible that he holds more power now, but even if he does not, removing him would endanger the fragile balance of the power networks that make up the government, which given the tenous hold they have on the country, could bring everything down. So dieming him is the last option for Russia and Iran.
 
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Apparently GNA forces are near Sirte. If Haftar’s backers want to turn things around, they probably ought to act now.
 

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The time was when they were couple of blocks from the government buildings in Tripoli. But if they can bogg down and wear out GNA then they can turn it around, otherwise they will need to do it on the road to Benghazi.
 
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Seems like the GNA has been stymied, but momentum is on their side.
 
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There’s been more unrest in Lebanon recently. I’d have to find the article. But the sectarian system is showing just how vulnerable to external shock it is.
 
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Some unrest in Syria-Daraa.

some anti Iranian warlord. Remember Assad's forces are comprised of militias that are run by men who are only loosely loyal to Assad.

In Yemen-apparently the Southern separatists(those that want an independent Southern Yemen) have captured Socotra. Giving them an island stronghold.

 
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Seems like Sirte is where the decisive blow will fall either way.

Personally I'm sympathetic to Haftar, as the GNA is a Turkish puppet dominated by Islamists.

I can't see the Egyptian army intervening in force, given the distances involved.
 

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So, that's what likely went up.

Edit: It looks like it was an ammonium nitrate storage that went up, according to the Lebanese gov.



Edit 2: Another angle on the explosion, from just a couple blocks away.

 
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2750 tons of amonium nitrate :oops:
The guys who were dealing with fire were probably blown to bits, even if they cleared immediate vicinity of the storage when fireworks started to go off.
They've nuke-mapped it to about a 2 kiloton blast, and AN is .74 the power of TNT, so it fits.

This is where things began, 7 years ago:
 

Duke Nukem

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They've nuke-mapped it to about a 2 kiloton blast, and AN is .74 the power of TNT, so it fits.

This is where things began, 7 years ago:


Damn a kiloton level explosion? im suprised only 70 people were confirmed dead.


Then again that might the bodies they were able to identify, who knows how many people were straight up obliterated by the explosion.
 

PsihoKekec

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Death toll of such large disasters takes time to finalize as people whose remains cannot be found are proclaimed dead and people suffering from overpressure injuries succumb to internal bleeding.
 

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