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Bear Ribs

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Zyobot

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More seriously, while I get why they put in money and expect to get their share, the money they put is gone and used up a long time ago. Instead, they’re getting it at the expense of the younger current generation — who are then forced to pay into Social Security to give older generations what they were promised without the consent of those actually paying for it. :rolleyes:
 

Terthna

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More seriously, while I get why they put in money and expect to get their share, the money they put is gone and used up a long time ago. Instead, they’re getting it at the expense of the younger current generation — who are then forced to pay into Social Security to give older generations what they were promised without the consent of those actually paying for it. :rolleyes:

The government can't just refuse to give them what they're owed though; that would be tantamount to defaulting on debt. Debt owed to American citizens at that; something which, I feel, would be justification enough for a violent revolution.
 

Zyobot

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The government can't just refuse to give them what they're owed though; that would be tantamount to defaulting on debt. Debt owed to American citizens at that; something which, I feel, would be justification enough for a violent revolution.

Yeah...

Honestly, I think the USG has put itself in a long-term bind by touting Social Security so much, the money for which is running out as we speak. On the one hand, you’re right they made their promise to seniors and would break it by going back on their word… but on the other, the money they’d use to fulfill that promise is coming from the current, younger labor force — who ultimately, will likely never enjoy Social Security themselves.

It’s not just the equivalent of promising a 70-year-old money taken from a 25-year-old who never consented to the deal, and then upholding the same promise for that 25-turned-70-year-old paid for with the money of the next 25-year-old. It’s both that, and how the next 25-year-old will never get Social Security themselves, which will only dump oil into the fires of resentment decades down the line. :(
 

The One Char

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Yeah...

Honestly, I think the USG has put itself in a long-term bind by touting Social Security so much, the money for which is running out as we speak. On the one hand, you’re right they made their promise to seniors and would break it by going back on their word… but on the other, the money they’d use to fulfill that promise is coming from the current, younger labor force — who ultimately, will likely never enjoy Social Security themselves.

It’s not just the equivalent of promising a 70-year-old money taken from a 25-year-old who never consented to the deal, and then upholding the same promise for that 25-turned-70-year-old paid for with the money of the next 25-year-old. It’s both that, and how the next 25-year-old will never get Social Security themselves, which will only dump oil into the fires of resentment decades down the line. :(
The reason this is happening is Social Security was supposed to be a sort of piggy bank you were to pay into. Congress raided it the second they could.
 

Zyobot

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The reason this is happening is Social Security was supposed to be a sort of piggy bank you were to pay into. Congress raided it the second they could.

Still an indictment of the people controlling the purse strings, though. In fact, it’s a case of the USG breaking its own promise to the American public, by raiding the very funds they promised would be available for seniors.

Besides, my moral objection to the way Social Security works remains regardless. Already explained why up-thread, though now that I remember it, the mechanics work more like the biggest (and perhaps only government-sponsored) Ponzi scheme in US history.

Either way, Congressional mismanagement of SS means that not only will my generation be forced to pay into it, we’re also unlikely to get a dime of SS money ourselves once we reach retirement age. And that sucks big time — both for us, and the public officials who’ll have to answer for their inability to deliver by then. :(
 

Terthna

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Still an indictment of the people controlling the purse strings, though. In fact, it’s a case of the USG breaking its own promise to the American public, by raiding the very funds they promised would be available for seniors.

Besides, my moral objection to the way Social Security works remains regardless. Already explained why up-thread, though now that I remember it, the mechanics work more like the biggest (and perhaps only government-sponsored) Ponzi scheme in US history.

Either way, Congressional mismanagement of SS means that not only will my generation be forced to pay into it, we’re also unlikely to get a dime of SS money ourselves once we reach retirement age. And that sucks big time — both for us, and the public officials who’ll have to answer for their inability to deliver by then. :(
Sadly it's far from the only, or even worst, bill the US government has laid at the feet of younger generations to pay; the cumulative cost for which will eventually be extracted in blood from the ruling class.
 

Zyobot

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Sadly it's far from the only, or even worst, bill the US government has laid at the feet of younger generations to pay; the cumulative cost for which will eventually be extracted in blood from the ruling class.

Think I know what you’re alluding to based on previous exchanges with Skall and others, yeah.

In tentative agreement overall, even if like you, there are times when I wonder if the Establishment’s stupid enough (or the Populists jumpy enough) to set off the powder keg early and make everything go to Hell decades before it should’ve. 👿
 

Cherico

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No, it means the DOJ drops the charge, Hunter Biden goes free and the law continues to be applied but only to the people who aren't connected.

Biden wont be president forever and he established that former presidents are not safe from prosicution.
 

Zyobot

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Biden wont be president forever and he established that former presidents are not safe from prosicution.

Maybe, but as @Bear Ribs said, ordinary Americans will still be prosecuted for pulling what Hunter did — regardless of whether the DOJ starts going after former presidents or not. So, unless SCOTUS delivers some more landmark rulings favoring gun rights, the two-tier justice system will continue to stand. :cautious:
 

Cherico

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Maybe, but as @Bear Ribs said, ordinary Americans will still be prosecuted for pulling what Hunter did — regardless of whether the DOJ starts going after former presidents or not. So, unless SCOTUS delivers some more landmark rulings favoring gun rights, the two-tier justice system will continue to stand. :cautious:

The two tier justice system lasts until the tipping point is reached and then said assholes get to be on the other end of what they unleashed. That process takes awhile and I think its going to see saw for quite a bit but I don't see our current establishment ruling forever as our high lords.

Their just to cultish and dickest and manavolent to hold onto power for too long.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
The two tier justice system lasts until the tipping point is reached and then said assholes get to be on the other end of what they unleashed. That process takes awhile and I think its going to see saw for quite a bit but I don't see our current establishment ruling forever as our high lords.

Their just to cultish and dickest and manavolent to hold onto power for too long.

Mostly agreed, but whatever the "macro-historical" consequences are in the long run, they won't mean jack, nor shit for the current generation (read: you and me) unless we get more pro-gun rulings while we're still young.

Alternatively, advances in highly "disruptive" tech (such as 3D printing) might enable home gunsmithing to become so popular and easily affordable, that the authorities basically give up on trying to police gun ownership. Think Defense Distributed on steroids, which you can bet the Feds will try (but probably fail) to shut down as the means to do it get better and better.
 

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