SoliFortissimi
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In pretty much the same sense as blacks and whites in the Reconstruction era South got along. The Muslims had their boots firmly planted on the Jews' throats, and the Jews weren't stupid enough to defy them.
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Lawl no. The truth is the muslims weren't a threat to anyone for centuries.
They loved the USA and the west. Then the the jews drop into the holy land
call it Israel and start a terror campaign against the locals.
What on earth did they expect?
Never mind they could have all moved to the Russian oblast instead.
No I'm not a fan of muslims but theres a difference between not especially
liking a people and having a group of sadistic scum shooting at starving
women and kids when they run to a truck to get food.
The fact is netanyahu did more to make people hate jews in a month
than places like Stormfront have in it's entire existence.
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SoliFortissimi
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Yes, because they were surrounded by people who had kicked their ass. Europe had to spend centuries beating the Ottomans into submission before the Muslims stopped trying to murder and enslave them. Not that it saved the Greeks or the Balkans.
...and they were also still torturing black slaves in ways not worth describing.
So fuck your Islam apologism.
It's not often I agree with Soli, but he seems to be on point here.
Yes and after all that you had a group of jews drop right into the middle of them, antagonize them then run behind the USA and have us pay their bill in blood and coin. What have we ever got from our "partnership" with Israel? Not one damn thing.
SoliFortissimi
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From "Muslims and Jews were chums before Israel" to "what have the Muslims ever done to anyone" to now "but what about Israel tho". It's like you think you can tire me out by just stacking easily refuted talking points at me until I just give up and log off.
Are you reading them off a list or something? What's the next one?
The entire reason the US Navy exists is because of Muslim Pirates unprovoked attacks on US Merchants in the late 18th century, long before the entire modern Zionist movement became a fucking thing.
The US has literally been fighting Islamic aggression since Jefferson, the entire reason the Marine Corps use a Arabic sword is due to our victories against them as noted in the Marine Corp Hymn.
There is literally ONE Muslim country in the world that has consistently been friendly with the US, the rest of the Muslim world has been attacking us since day one...
Morocco. The only one who we have never been at war with
We have a good relationship with them
Iran was friendly with us until we got rid of the shah. The only reason the current regime in Iran is in power is because of us.
Umm...kinda not. Sure, the CIA had a hand in replacing the Shah with another Shah. That being said, Reza was NOT a big fan of America, and Carter was considering removing him before the coup that removed the Shah's from power.
However, it's a little odd all around b/c Iran had an annual growth of around 5-10% annually. That's dang good performance and illustrates what Iran could be capable of.
This is when Islam pokes its head in and screws that part of the world yet again. A lot of the major points for the coup were laws that were forcing Islam to not be Islam...because they would have to watch men and women having conversations with each other in public...and watch women work...and all sorts of other things like people wearing western clothing.
Yeah, Islam...the Religion of Peace...my ass.
Now...back on target:
A better question is why do we have to be over there at all?
Sorry "muh greatest ally" doesn't cut it either.
Why the hell are we even over there? Giving a total blank check to
the Israelis to do whatever they want and it just a given that the USA is
going to back them up regardless of their behavior and pay the bill?
Especially after incidents like the USS Liberty.
Sorry "muh greatest ally" doesn't cut it either.
Why the hell are we even over there? Giving a total blank check to
the Israelis to do whatever they want and it just a given that the USA is
going to back them up regardless of their behavior and pay the bill?
Especially after incidents like the USS Liberty.
Morphic Tide
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The Iranians openly say that they want to kill us and have been working on the two technologies needed to make a serious go of it?
Have you heard of these geographical features called the Red Sea, the Strait of Hormuz, and the Suez Canal?
Lawl. They've been "working on the bomb" for over twenty years or more now.
Oh yeah hows Iran's navy. Oh yeah they haven't got one. It's silly.
There is literally no reason for us to be over there except to protect Israel.
The USA has everything we need in the USA including oil. We don't need to be over there at all.
It benefits the US if the Suez gets closed permanently. The Suez helps out Russia and Europe connect to the Middle east, India, and China. As long as the US is energy exporting, the US is in a stronger position if the Suez got closed, as everyone else os hurt but it hardly bothers the US.
We are there for our allies, not for our own benefit.
SoliFortissimi
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No it doesn't, it just doesn't hurt the US as much as it hurts most countries. And bud, it'll hurt the US like a bitch.
We can't afford disruptions to world trade. Literally. Keep your Juche ideas to yourself.
Let's take a look at the bigger picture for a moment, maybe?
The Cold War, which was itself just the latest iteration of the Great Game. There was the USA, and there was the USSR, and all of the world was either in one camp or the other. In the Middle-east, just like everywhere else on Earth, some countries were US proxies, and some were Soviet proxies.
That is the bigger context in which the entire existence of the modern state of Israel should be seen, and also the current "theocratic" state of Iran.
The Shah of Iran was a Western puppet - as someone else mentioned, not too good a puppet... if as Monk said, even freaking Jimmy Carter was willing to depose him for someone more pliant, that just shows how much the USA's attitude to the rest of the world has long been all about what's good for American Big Business. Democracy? A people's freedom to have a leader of their own choice? LOL no, muh interests.
Except that the Other Side got in first and put a Comrade in robes and a turban in the place of the Shah. Islamic Revolution?
(okay, I have some "hot takes" sometimes)
And of course let's not for moment imagine that the cold calculating minds in the Kremlin cared much about what was good for the Iranian people either.
The Cold War, which was itself just the latest iteration of the Great Game. There was the USA, and there was the USSR, and all of the world was either in one camp or the other. In the Middle-east, just like everywhere else on Earth, some countries were US proxies, and some were Soviet proxies.
That is the bigger context in which the entire existence of the modern state of Israel should be seen, and also the current "theocratic" state of Iran.
The Shah of Iran was a Western puppet - as someone else mentioned, not too good a puppet... if as Monk said, even freaking Jimmy Carter was willing to depose him for someone more pliant, that just shows how much the USA's attitude to the rest of the world has long been all about what's good for American Big Business. Democracy? A people's freedom to have a leader of their own choice? LOL no, muh interests.
Except that the Other Side got in first and put a Comrade in robes and a turban in the place of the Shah. Islamic Revolution?
(okay, I have some "hot takes" sometimes)
And of course let's not for moment imagine that the cold calculating minds in the Kremlin cared much about what was good for the Iranian people either.
