Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses
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Bear Ribs
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Given the very real risk of someone getting killed, which has happened in the past, SWATting really needs to be prosecuted as if it were attempted murder... of the police officers involved given they could readily be the ones shot as well.
Currently SWATting is a misdemeanor* treated as a prank call to the authorities. If somebody is injured or killed, then there can be other charges added, but I personally feel there could be much more done to fight it. Granted, fighting SWATting is hard because usually all you have is a hasty 911 call, often with a disguised caller ID and/or VPN to protect privacy on a VoIP phone so it's not easy to find the perpetrator.
That said, it really needs social changes rather than legal ones, to a degree. If the officers and prosecutors started treating it like "came close to getting police killed" I suspect they could get around those difficulties.
*In the areas where I'm familiar with the local laws, I hardly know all fifty states.
Currently SWATting is a misdemeanor* treated as a prank call to the authorities. If somebody is injured or killed, then there can be other charges added, but I personally feel there could be much more done to fight it. Granted, fighting SWATting is hard because usually all you have is a hasty 911 call, often with a disguised caller ID and/or VPN to protect privacy on a VoIP phone so it's not easy to find the perpetrator.
That said, it really needs social changes rather than legal ones, to a degree. If the officers and prosecutors started treating it like "came close to getting police killed" I suspect they could get around those difficulties.
*In the areas where I'm familiar with the local laws, I hardly know all fifty states.
In some areas it is a felony with up to 20 years
Yup. And it should be. It is a direct variation on the proverbial "shouting FIRE! in a crowded theater", but combined with a big waste of government resources and providing dangerously false intelligence to heavily armed police commandos.
Secondly, in the time of such stuff police effectively needs its own signals intelligence division to prevent that. Basically, IT experts to profile calls that look suspiciously like shenanigans, able to check on spot, for example, if the call was made from a cellphone or house phone located in the area the call is about. Calls going through dodgy anonymizing services, well, take that with a big grain of salt, as that could be anyone saying anything for any, probably malicious reason.
Last but not least, tactically, perhaps police could use a dedicated recon element, to prevent swatting and also many other kinds of incidents that get people killed. I'm talking low profile drones, plainclothes officer dressed as a gas company employee or door to door salesman walking by, a sensor laden car driving by, all checking if the situation on the site resembles the one described in the call, all before deploying the SWAT team.
Should be relatively low risk, and the extra information gathered will be useful even in a genuine situation.
That isn't hoe things work my friend.
Money is an issue fir the SIGINT and fir th wole last thing. Time. Time is always on the line
Of course this stuff isn't free. Still, it may be worthwhole. The SIGINT part could probably would need to be done nationally anyway, tied into the whole emergency call system. The recon part is a bigger issue for all but biggest and most funded departments. Time wise though, a recon drone could get to places much faster than SWAT can gear up and drive anywhere.
The SWATting of Tim was done by two officers who just happend to be near by which is what happens in more rural areas where there isnt a full time SWAT team. In most cases that is actually what happens, as it depends heavily on what the call is, how quick the SWAT can get there compared to normal officers.
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Still, I'd suspect that having software/infrastructure to check and make sure the person calling for police actually *is* in the area wouldn't bee too expensive to set up, and should filter out at least some of the crap?
Bear Ribs
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Man this is funny. Ultra-Woke Vox trying to guilt everybody about how we eat 174 animals a year apiece. So greedy! Then they make the stupid mistake of breaking it down and revealing that 137 of them are shrimp. Bruh, you know what's really evil? Whales. A Blue Whale will eat 40 million krill per day. If you're so concerned about the lives of shrimp leave me alone about my 137 of them a year and go whaling, morons.
The entire thread is people roasting them over this stupidity.
The entire thread is people roasting them over this stupidity.
I eat 100 shrimp a month (granted they are mostly the small, coldwater variety) and at least 5-7 fish. More fish in the summer because I go fishing at least thrice a week. Never bothered to count the meat. Except rabbits. I have a friend who hunts and he gets me a few rabbits every winter.
But then again, I'm considered tame by East Asian standards . . .
Bear Ribs
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Yeah, pretty sure I break their annual "duck" and "shrimp" budget every time I go out for Chinese food. I don't actually eat much pork aside from a love of cheap, succulent country-style ribs in the fall when they used to drop to 1.25 a pound (RIP low Meat prices, died 2021) so I'm probably well behind on that but I at least quintuple their fish per year. Who the heck only eats one fish a month? I thought even vegetarians ate fish.I eat 100 shrimp a month (granted they are mostly the small, coldwater variety) and at least 5-7 fish. More fish in the summer because I go fishing at least thrice a week. Never bothered to count the meat. Except rabbits. I have a friend who hunts and he gets me a few rabbits every winter.
But then again, I'm considered tame by East Asian standards . . .
At 1-2 pounds a day I still only eat like 1/4-1/2 of a cow a year
Bear Ribs
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Actually, that would add up to about a whole cow. Yeah, the live cow might be 1400 pounds but once you remove the head, hide, hooves, and guts you're down to about 800 pounds and once excess moisture, fat, and bones come out of that you can expect to have maybe 550 pounds of edible meat left. So at maybe 1.5 pounds a day, you're going to hit around 547.5 in a year putting you close to a whole cow. Granted, 1.5 pounds a day is a fairly meat-intensive diet for most Americans, but look on the bright side, by eating so much beef you've saved the lives of 137 shrimp!
How Many Pounds of Meat Can We Expect From A Beef Animal?
Consumers who buy a live animal from a local cattle producer or 4-H member for custom processing are often surprised by the amount of beef they receive, the amount of freezer space needed and that they did not get back the entire live weight of the animal in retail cuts. This article will...
Vindication.
So what your saying Glenn Kessler is that you didn't want it to turn out to be true, but it did turn out to be true and you fact checked based on your feelings, not on actual facts?
I give this a rating of pants on your head retarded.
So what your saying Glenn Kessler is that you didn't want it to turn out to be true, but it did turn out to be true and you fact checked based on your feelings, not on actual facts?
I give this a rating of pants on your head retarded.
Bear Ribs
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On the one hand I want to give him credit for actually retracting his statement.
On the other hand, it was a weak as heck retraction that's buried at the bottom of the article where most readers won't get to it, and he still has it listed as one Pinocchio so he didn't exactly retract it, just softened it up slightly using "context."
The gripping hand is that if you call yourself a fact-checker, literally your entire job is to check actual facts.
lulz, fact-checking isn't about checking facts; it's about spreading the party-approved propaganda of the leftoids.
Bear Ribs
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Can somebody fact-check this for me?
now you have me thinking about buying a cow from a butcher. If I only had the freezer space.Actually, that would add up to about a whole cow. Yeah, the live cow might be 1400 pounds but once you remove the head, hide, hooves, and guts you're down to about 800 pounds and once excess moisture, fat, and bones come out of that you can expect to have maybe 550 pounds of edible meat left. So at maybe 1.5 pounds a day, you're going to hit around 547.5 in a year putting you close to a whole cow. Granted, 1.5 pounds a day is a fairly meat-intensive diet for most Americans, but look on the bright side, by eating so much beef you've saved the lives of 137 shrimp!
How Many Pounds of Meat Can We Expect From A Beef Animal?
Consumers who buy a live animal from a local cattle producer or 4-H member for custom processing are often surprised by the amount of beef they receive, the amount of freezer space needed and that they did not get back the entire live weight of the animal in retail cuts. This article will...beef.unl.edu
And yeah I have a very beef intensive diet lol. It's my favorite protein by miles.
I also eat more than 137 shrimp in a year. Fuck it, gimme some of them shrampies.