China Massive influx of Chinese apologia and shilling amidst Covid-19

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
Shame, I don't wanna give up on this. I even tried to file a appeal before as I said offering to just get permabanned from the debate hall and get it done with but I forgot to follow the appeal form and was just rejected out of principle apparently. It really is just insane how the echo chamber mentality works. I just felt like I was slowly going insane. NO ONE seemed to even acknowledge what I was saying at time. Not disagreements, not arguing against it, flat out denial I had said anything unless it was in line with what they thought already. It was... eerie. Even on reddit when I say controversial stuff people will challenge me on it. Not on SB, they just ignored it and moved on to the next topic.

Yeah the political side of SB is like a damn landmine very easy to get banned if you go there often.

And it seems like the lefty bullshit is leaking on to other subforums .
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
So it's terminal. What a shame.

I guess I will just use bookmarks then. Not like I will be losing much anyway. It was cool talking to the authors but... Oh well.

If those authors and other guys were assholes, don't have much regrets if they stop talking to you, they're not worth your time

Honestly, these days, I kinda have it a hard time to separate the writer from his/her work when I keep getting the feeling even decades ago now, that they would be a bunch of gaslighting accuse-you-of-Nazism and be a sadistic douchebag

Yeah the political side of SB is like a damn landmine very easy to get banned if you go there often.

And it seems like the lefty bullshit is leaking on to other subforums .

This is my belief in-regards to problems that people purposely ignore and lie about

Things have to get worse to the point it's way too obvious, that people who styled themselves as "moderates" or "sane" start questioning the world around them once more
 

Harlock

I should have expected that really
I just got permananned from SB. How nice of those mods to wait until after my regular suspension ran out to do so!

I am so fucking sad. Can't even log out as it keeps throwing a error now. (Edit: was able to, had to manually go to my profile to do so.) How am I gonna follow the stories I joined the site to follow now? I can't even fucking appeal it, and I am pretty sure they threw this new ban because I changed my signature to have a anti CCP message. I don't wanna make a fake account. Not only is that against the rules I am 100% sure it won't even work with the mods being so fucking pedantic as they are. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a way I could use the notification system without having a account? At least SB is not as pedantic and annoying as AlternateHistory which doesn't even let you see the threads without a account.

Use a VPN and try not to post a lot, in fact don't go anywhere but fics and don't reference anything your banned account did.
Basically be very, very quiet :p If all you want to do is follow fics and thats all you actually do, you'll get away with it. Just change everything about your names, posting habits and say very little :p
 

prinCZess

Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
Honestly? I don't see what's wrong with massive amounts of Chinese shilling and apologia in this situation. The Republic of China isn't to blame, has been very open and seemingly accurate in their reportsing despite negligence and prejudice from the WHO, and providing some aid to assist others in mitigation and vaccine research cooperation.
😜
 

MelancholicMechanicus

Thought Criminal
Way too much effort for way too little reward. May try it some other time but honestly doesn't sound worth it. Even if I never go to Whitehall and Non-SF debates the fact that I will constantly have to police my own opinions and not speak my mind openly ruins it for it.


I never really noticed much wrong with the authors themselves in the creative writing section. But then again I did not speak much nor did I see much of anything that would really trigger the mods there. I would like to believe the Whitehall is where the loud minority circle jerks all day, but it would be naive of me to not admit there is a high probability all the forums are infected. I noticed while I was banned there was a apparent drama with a "alt-right cabal" that was "targeting moderated and attempting to push the forum to extremism" via DM's and profile messages in 2019? I just glanced over that as I was already suspended (not realizing I would be permabanned as soon as my suspension ran out) and wanted to keep off that landmine to keep my account. Looking back, that probably was the moderates getting purged by mods. Hell, I would go as far as to say this could have been a possible False Flag to get rid of the more "problematic" people in the site but I don't know enough to say.

I am just glad SB isn't a big part of my life as it seems to be to some people there.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Way too much effort for way too little reward. May try it some other time but honestly doesn't sound worth it. Even if I never go to Whitehall and Non-SF debates the fact that I will constantly have to police my own opinions and not speak my mind openly ruins it for it.



I never really noticed much wrong with the authors themselves in the creative writing section. But then again I did not speak much nor did I see much of anything that would really trigger the mods there. I would like to believe the Whitehall is where the loud minority circle jerks all day, but it would be naive of me to not admit there is a high probability all the forums are infected. I noticed while I was banned there was a apparent drama with a "alt-right cabal" that was "targeting moderated and attempting to push the forum to extremism" via DM's and profile messages in 2019? I just glanced over that as I was already suspended (not realizing I would be permabanned as soon as my suspension ran out) and wanted to keep off that landmine to keep my account. Looking back, that probably was the moderates getting purged by mods. Hell, I would go as far as to say this could have been a possible False Flag to get rid of the more "problematic" people in the site but I don't know enough to say.

I am just glad SB isn't a big part of my life as it seems to be to some people there.

Wrong thread dude
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
What? How so? I am in the same thread I created to talk about SB and internet in general shilling for China.

Thought this the Complaining About Other Forums thread, my bad

That said, as I said before, separating the author from his/her work becomes harder, especially that now in this day and age they're using it even more to fantasize about bashing in the heads of their enemies

Course, TBF, I doubt even non-Far Left wing authors can't help but also want to make their Far Lefties into villains or antagonists
 

MelancholicMechanicus

Thought Criminal
Thought this the Complaining About Other Forums thread, my bad

That said, as I said before, separating the author from his/her work becomes harder, especially that now in this day and age they're using it even more to fantasize about bashing in the heads of their enemies

Course, TBF, I doubt even non-Far Left wing authors can't help but also want to make their Far Lefties into villains or antagonists

There is a thread just to complain about other forums? Could you direct me there?

Also, on the subject I began this thread for in the first place, I thought I should share a example of CCP apologia in the wild. Just notice the comment section in this reddit post.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Use a VPN and try not to post a lot, in fact don't go anywhere but fics and don't reference anything your banned account did.
Basically be very, very quiet :p If all you want to do is follow fics and thats all you actually do, you'll get away with it. Just change everything about your names, posting habits and say very little :p
Be a lurker?
 

Flintsteel

Sleeping Bolo
Moderator
Staff Member
Founder
I never really noticed much wrong with the authors themselves in the creative writing section. But then again I did not speak much nor did I see much of anything that would really trigger the mods there. I would like to believe the Whitehall is where the loud minority circle jerks all day, but it would be naive of me to not admit there is a high probability all the forums are infected. I noticed while I was banned there was a apparent drama with a "alt-right cabal" that was "targeting moderated and attempting to push the forum to extremism" via DM's and profile messages in 2019? I just glanced over that as I was already suspended (not realizing I would be permabanned as soon as my suspension ran out) and wanted to keep off that landmine to keep my account. Looking back, that probably was the moderates getting purged by mods. Hell, I would go as far as to say this could have been a possible False Flag to get rid of the more "problematic" people in the site but I don't know enough to say.
Err.... I'm not exactly sure how to put this, but...

Welcome to the home of said "alt-right cabal." The charges were bullshit, and the incident was used to purge all the right-leaning mods on SB in one go, leaving the crazies in charge of the asylum. We made this place instead.
 

MelancholicMechanicus

Thought Criminal
Err.... I'm not exactly sure how to put this, but...

Welcome to the home of said "alt-right cabal." The charges were bullshit, and the incident was used to purge all the right-leaning mods on SB in one go, leaving the crazies in charge of the asylum. We made this place instead.

Oh damn. That should have been a massive red flag for me. How bad was it? What really happened? How did SB even get away with it? I am just baffled at how authoritarian and insane they seem to be outside the regular folks on Creative Writing. Was it a Gamergate sorta deal?
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
@MelancholicMechanicus all I can offer is that you should try to contact the fiction authors and get them to post their works here. We'd love to have them.

Welcome aboard. We are doing everything we can to build this community into the Spacebattles alternative for just those reasons.

I think they're still hesitant and believe those accusations or others going "just as bad"
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
I'd like to introduce you all to a Youtuber by the name of Gweilo 60. I discovered him while trying to look for more content by Laowhy86 and Serpentza, the ADVChina guys; specifically, this video is what came up:


And looking at the rest of his videos, it quickly became clear what this guy was; a propaganda mouthpiece for the CCP. Now, I don't think he's being directly instructed by them to say anything, but ideologically he seems to want to do everything he can to defend the Chinese government from criticism (particularly by insisting that any criticism of the government is a racist attack against all people of China), and push whatever narrative best supports them and their actions.

I'll say this much for the guy; he has fully assimilated to the country, and has become Chinese in all but ethnicity.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
What a shame that he will never actually be considered chinese by the native citizens adnd culture.
He's certainly in for a rude awakening at some point, because China is one of the most racist countries in the world. The CCP know everything about him, and they leave him alone because he spreads their propaganda willingly; if that changes though, if they decide he's become a liability even through no fault of his own, we'll probably never hear from him again after that.
 

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