Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

Megadeath

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...Are you serious?

Because how she actually got where she was, was by hitching herself to Bill Clinton. She had literally no other political qualifications than 'former first lady' when she was handed a Dem Senator seat in a safe district, and she was a chronic screw-up as Secretary of State during the Obama Admin.

Ever heard of the Uranium One deal? Remember her 'reset button' for Putin? And that's before you go into the Ben-Ghazi fiasco, and her openly lying about it.
Lol, no of course I wasn't serious. Pretty sure a quick search will find several less favourable posts I've made about her. I don't hate her as much as some, and don't believe everything some others do, but I don't like her and even if I did I'm not stupid enough to think any trump fans would see her as any kinda alternative.
 

S'task

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Or they are passing the baton to the GOPe.

Dude, the GOPe has been against the Jan6 commission the entire time. They literally hung the two "Republicans" who sat on it at Pelosi's request out to dry, completely standing aside to let them hang for their participation in it. Pelosi completely screwed up in even getting GOPe support with how she handled the it because she did the one thing the GOPe couldn't stand: she didn't let them have a seat at the table. Remember, Pelosi did the unprecedented with the Jan6 commission: she refused to let the minority party choose its own representatives to the commission, instead she herself picked the Republican representatives to the commission.
 

PeaceMaker 03

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It's worse than we thought. Jan 6 was the biggest attack on democracy since the civil war. Worse than BLM, worse than the Oklahoma City Bombing, worse than 9/11, worse than Pearl Harbor or both world wars. It was the worst.



You forgot the lady who detonated a bomb in the capital building, in an attempt to kill republicans, who was latter pardoned by Bill Clinton, and who now consults/works for BLM.
 

ShadowArxxy

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You forgot the lady who detonated a bomb in the capital building, in an attempt to kill republicans, who was latter pardoned by Bill Clinton, and who now consults/works for BLM.

That's been going around Facebook lately, and it's only partially accurate. The person they're talking about was Susan Rosenberg, a member of the self-styled "May 19th Communist Organization", a feminist Communist organization with ties to the Black Liberation Army movement. In fact agree that she's a traitor and a domestic terrorist, but let the facts speak for themselves:

Rosenberg charged but not prosecuted for the 1983 Capitol bombing, because while there was plenty of evidence that she was part of the self-styled "Resistance Community" militant faction of M19 which openly took credit for that bombing, the evidence pointing to her specifically was weak. This did not mean that she got away with it; a total of six members were caught, and ultimately federal prosecutors chose to offer a group plea bargain where the three who were directly involved pled guilty in return for charges being dropped against the other three -- however, two of those not charged, including Rosenberg, were already in prison anyway for prior crimes, and a recent SCOTUS decision on double jeopardy made prosecuting them a relatively shaky prospect.

Rosenberg, specifically, was serving a massive 58-year sentence for possession of over 750 pounds of explosives, which is sixteen times the typical sentence for this offense. Basically, that related case reached trial first, and the judge absolutely threw the book at her for the explosives possession because of her known involvement with *all* the Resistance Community terrorist attacks.

As to President Clinton's involvement, he didn't pardon her; he only commuted the sentence in 2001, which means she still served a very substantial 17 years *and* she's still a convicted felon with all the loss of rights that attach to that. Did he let her out of prison? Yes, but the difference between pardoning and commuting is huge. She's still a convicted terrorist, and *no one* ever said she was innocent, only that the sentence was excessive for the crime she was actually convicted of.

As for consulting/working for BLM, that's accurate but indirect. She was on the board of directors of "Thousand Currents", a nonprofit that supports a wide variety of grassroots movements; it's basically a glorified temp agency crossed with a nonprofit, providing free ""administrative and back-office support" for partner groups. The "Black Matter Lives Global Network" was such a partner group from 2016 to 2020, but Thousand Currents subsequently dropped them as part of a brand refocus on exclusively supporting overseas groups.
 

Captain X

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Rosenberg charged but not prosecuted for the 1983 Capitol bombing, because while there was plenty of evidence that she was part of the self-styled "Resistance Community" militant faction of M19 which openly took credit for that bombing, the evidence pointing to her specifically was weak. This did not mean that she got away with it; a total of six members were caught, and ultimately federal prosecutors chose to offer a group plea bargain where the three who were directly involved pled guilty in return for charges being dropped against the other three -- however, two of those not charged, including Rosenberg, were already in prison anyway for prior crimes, and a recent SCOTUS decision on double jeopardy made prosecuting them a relatively shaky prospect.
So what exactly is your point here? Are we to take this to mean that she didn't actually do it?

Rosenberg, specifically, was serving a massive 58-year sentence for possession of over 750 pounds of explosives, which is sixteen times the typical sentence for this offense. Basically, that related case reached trial first, and the judge absolutely threw the book at her for the explosives possession because of her known involvement with *all* the Resistance Community terrorist attacks.
And just remember that the FBI and ATF massacred a group of people who ran an entirely above-board gun shop over dummy grenades and gunpowder being in their mail, and justified it with false allegations of child abuse.

As to President Clinton's involvement, he didn't pardon her; he only commuted the sentence in 2001, which means she still served a very substantial 17 years *and* she's still a convicted felon with all the loss of rights that attach to that. Did he let her out of prison? Yes, but the difference between pardoning and commuting is huge. She's still a convicted terrorist, and *no one* ever said she was innocent, only that the sentence was excessive for the crime she was actually convicted of.
And? You aren't actually refuting what @PeaceMaker 03 said. After all, the entire point is that she's a terrorist, who at the very least helped the people who detonated a bomb in the Capitol Building, yet is treated like a hero by the left, who meanwhile act like people who at worst did some vandalism after literally being let in by the police are worse than the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11, worse than the Nazis and Imperial Japanese, etc.

Of course, I'm also mystified why they think the Civil War was an "attack on our democracy." I mean, Lincoln did plenty of stuff that could be seen as that, but I'm pretty sure they're referring to the wish of states to simply leave the Union as an attack on democracy somehow. :LOL: Shows just how warped their perspective is. Either that or they know they're full of shit and are just hoping the average American is just as stupid as they are.
 

Jormungandr

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[...]Either that or they know they're full of shit and are just hoping the average American is just as stupid as they are.
To be fair, your education system is so shit that Americans on the street (high schoolers and those in college), when asked, do not even know basic mathematics and geography (e.g. "Where is France? What is 3 x 3 x 3?").

While it started as being an institutional thing, churning out legions of uneducated morons, it's now evolved into a cultural thing -- some Americans actually seem proud being as thick as shit because "America number one! Woo! Wait, other countries don't follow American law and culture? Why aren't they doing what we say?". smh

I wish I were being hyperbolic. sigh
 
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ShadowArxxy

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So what exactly is your point here? Are we to take this to mean that she didn't actually do it?

My point is simply providing relevant facts to give people here a fuller picture of what actually happened with that.

And? You aren't actually refuting what @PeaceMaker 03 said.

I'm not trying to refute what he said. I even outright said I agree that she's a terrorist. Are you seriously objecting to actual factual research simply because you're somehow assuming that if I'm saying it, I have to be taking a "left" position?

After all, the entire point is that she's a terrorist, who at the very least helped the people who detonated a bomb in the Capitol Building, yet is treated like a hero by the left,

She's not treated as a hero on the left, she's a historical footnote that most people have never even freaking heard of.
 

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