Islam Co-Existing With the Christian West

King Arts

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Fucking Islamists; trying to dictate what the religious laws are in another nation in order to get them in NATO.

I hope every citizen of Sweden burns a quran on camera and on tv, so Erdy can see how little this is going to help him.

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Vengeful Finns are something that should give Russia nightmares.

Bacle why do you keep stanning for liberals?

As for Turkey why should they not try to make their religion more respectable? After all many western countries including your liberal paradise of Sweden try to force other nations to change their religious laws and live in a secular globohomo way by allowing gays and trannies.
 

Bacle

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Bacle why do you keep stanning for liberals?

As for Turkey why should they not try to make their religion more respectable? After all many western countries including your liberal paradise of Sweden try to force other nations to change their religious laws and live in a secular globohomo way by allowing gays and trannies.
How is being pissed at Islamist bullshit interfering with NATO membership applications "stanning for liberals"?

And this is not about whether a country is 'woke' or 'liberal', it's about mutual defense against Russia, and Erdogan's Islamist bullshit getting in the way of that.
 

King Arts

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How is being pissed at Islamist bullshit interfering with NATO membership applications "stanning for liberals"?

And this is not about whether a country is 'woke' or 'liberal', it's about mutual defense against Russia, and Erdogan's Islamist bullshit getting in the way of that.
I'm tired of your bullshit racism. Look at a map and stop being illiterate. If Finland joins NATO Sweden can't even be invaded, but even if they are "mutual defense" Sweden being conquered is no threat to America fuck them.
 

Bacle

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I'm tired of your bullshit racism. Look at a map and stop being illiterate. If Finland joins NATO Sweden can't even be invaded, but even if they are "mutual defense" Sweden being conquered is no threat to America fuck them.
Russia has already made noises about Gotland Island, and they can access that from Kaliningrad/Konigsberg.

Also, hilarious to call 'being tired of Islamists wanting to force other nations to follow their Sharia-type religious laws' "racist"; that's a new level of absurdity that is rather funny.

Erdogan is little better than fucking Kimmy Boy or Putin, he just has the Islamist excuse to layer over his dictatorial and imperial ambitions and is on 'our side'.

And you show your true colors by saying a Russia invasion of Sweden is impossible, then saying even if it does happen it doesn't matter to the US.
 

King Arts

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Russia has already made noises about Gotland Island, and they can access that from Kaliningrad/Konigsberg.

Also, hilarious to call 'being tired of Islamists wanting to force other nations to follow their Sharia-type religious laws' "racist"; that's a new level of absurdity that is rather funny.

Erdogan is little better than fucking Kimmy Boy or Putin, he just has the Islamist excuse to layer over his dictatorial and imperial ambitions and is on 'our side'.

And you show your true colors by saying a Russia invasion of Sweden is impossible, then saying even if it does happen it doesn't matter to the US.
Dude my people hate the Turks we fought them for centuries when they actually were an empire and tried to impose Islam. But they are better than the Swedes. I swear I hope conservacucks end up having their children raised by gay or trans couples because every action you take makes those leftists stronger so you and your children should suffer for it.

Seriously America won’t be affected by Sweden it is not Mexico or Canada. The only reason people Stan for it is either because it’s super liberal or they love to suck up the blonde blue eyed whitetype. I don’t give a shit about race so I see how liberal and disgusting Sweden is it’s so bad that Islamists are preferable. Why do you care about Sweden?
 

LordsFire

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Bacle why do you keep stanning for liberals?

As for Turkey why should they not try to make their religion more respectable? After all many western countries including your liberal paradise of Sweden try to force other nations to change their religious laws and live in a secular globohomo way by allowing gays and trannies.

Advancing a false religion benefits no one.
 

King Arts

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Advancing a false religion benefits no one.
Wrong, it may give benefits in the earthly life. What it will fail to do is give the ultimate benefit which is eternal salvation, as only Christ can save. But even then it's not sure, I like Christianity's chances of beating Islam more than I like it's chances of overtaking atheist liberalism. Atheists are the least likely group to accept the gospel. So I prefer Muslims to atheists. Also at least Muslims have morals that are slightly based on truth just like religious Jews do.
 

Terthna

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Advancing a false religion benefits no one.
Wrong, it may give benefits in the earthly life. What it will fail to do is give the ultimate benefit which is eternal salvation, as only Christ can save. But even then it's not sure, I like Christianity's chances of beating Islam more than I like it's chances of overtaking atheist liberalism. Atheists are the least likely group to accept the gospel. So I prefer Muslims to atheists. Also at least Muslims have morals that are slightly based on truth just like religious Jews do.
This kind of talk is exactly why I'm worried about the supposed Christian revival Cherio has been predicting; because I'm almost certain you lot would damn the world trying to save it from itself, just as many amongst the regressive left are in the process of doing.
 

Cherico

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This kind of talk is exactly why I'm worried about the supposed Christian revival Cherio has been predicting; because I'm almost certain you lot would damn the world trying to save it from itself, just as many amongst the regressive left are in the process of doing.

You don't get an ideal situation it's all trade offs mate
 

King Arts

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This kind of talk is exactly why I'm worried about the supposed Christian revival Cherio has been predicting; because I'm almost certain you lot would damn the world trying to save it from itself, just as many amongst the regressive left are in the process of doing.
What are you talking about? Letting liberal nations become Islamic wouldn’t destroy anything. Christianity is the truth but other traditional religions can run stable societies. Islam while being a historical enemy have had stable societies, only silly US evangelicals don’t think Islam is a traditional religion.
 

Atarlost

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What are you talking about? Letting liberal nations become Islamic wouldn’t destroy anything. Christianity is the truth but other traditional religions can run stable societies. Islam while being a historical enemy have had stable societies, only silly US evangelicals don’t think Islam is a traditional religion.
The problem is Mecca, or rather what Mohammed ordered his followers to do when he conquered it. A religion where it is a positive good to break oaths and contracts if they're with non-coreligionists is not a religion compatible with civilization unless it is the only surviving religion.
 

LordsFire

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What are you talking about? Letting liberal nations become Islamic wouldn’t destroy anything. Christianity is the truth but other traditional religions can run stable societies. Islam while being a historical enemy have had stable societies, only silly US evangelicals don’t think Islam is a traditional religion.

I really do have a hard time understanding the way your mind functions.

Are you really that ignorant of Islam's history?
 

King Arts

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The problem is Mecca, or rather what Mohammed ordered his followers to do when he conquered it. A religion where it is a positive good to break oaths and contracts if they're with non-coreligionists is not a religion compatible with civilization unless it is the only surviving religion.
Do you take the same view towards Judaism? Do you know the story of Hamor, and the circumcised city? Political groups sometimes betray others, you have to show that they are worse than other groups. And Islam has survived with other religions. The only ones it is required to destroy are pagans. It is true that Christians and Jews would be second class citizens but they would exist, which is a better faith than under liberalism where they would surely be attempts to kill them off.
Also I don't know much about Islam as it's not my religion but I can check wikipedia, and it says that the pagans were the ones who broke the 10 year truce. So why should I cry about the pagans when they were the ones who actually broke the oath and not the Muslims?
In 628, the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and the Muslims in Medina entered into a 10-year pact called the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah. However, in 630 (8 A.H.), the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah was breached as a result of the aggression of the Banu Bakr, a confederate of the Quraysh, against the Banu Khuza'ah, who had recently entered into an alliance with the Muslims.

Pursuant to the Treaty of Hudaibiyyah, the Arab tribes were afforded the opportunity to align themselves with either the Muslims or the Quraysh. The agreement stipulated that in the event of any aggression against a tribe that had chosen a particular alliance, the party to which it was allied would possess the right to take retaliatory action. Consequently, the Banu Bakr aligned themselves with the Quraysh, while the Banu Khuza'ah aligned themselves with the Muslims.[5] They had maintained peace for a period of time; however, underlying motives stemming from the pre-Islamic era, exacerbated by a persistent desire for revenge, ultimately led to renewed hostilities.

The Banu Bakr launched an attack against the Banu Khuza'ah at Al-Wateer in Sha'ban, 8 A.H., disregarding the terms of the treaty. A group of the Quraysh, headed by Safwan ibn Umayya, Ikrima ibn Amr, and Suhayl ibn Amr, provided the Banu Bakr with men and weapons under the cover of darkness, without the awareness of Abu Sufyan ibn Harb.[6][5] Faced with aggression from their opponents, the members of the Banu Khuza'ah sought refuge in the Holy Sanctuary - the Kaaba. However, they were not spared and Nawfal, the leader of the Banu Bakr, killed twenty of them in violation of established customs. In response, the Banu Khuza'ah immediately dispatched a delegation to Medina to inform Muhammad of the breach of the truce and to request his assistance



I really do have a hard time understanding the way your mind functions.

Are you really that ignorant of Islam's history?
My logic is that if it is possible it is best to make enemy of my enemy is my friend. Muslims are the closest non Christian religion to us, therefore unless there are pressing issues that make an alliance unacceptable(like the Muslims are currently attacking us like with the Ottoman wars) then we should be more friendly to Muslims than to pagans. Pagans are also closer to us than atheists, so we should be nicer to pagans than to atheists. You see there is a ladder.

But why don't you tell me about Islam's history and how it is unique in being the WORST non Christian religion Mr. Jack Chick. Or are you just going to complain that Muslims are not liberal because they have laws demanding women have headscarves and that they kill gays?
 

LordsFire

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My logic is that if it is possible it is best to make enemy of my enemy is my friend. Muslims are the closest non Christian religion to us, therefore unless there are pressing issues that make an alliance unacceptable(like the Muslims are currently attacking us like with the Ottoman wars) then we should be more friendly to Muslims than to pagans. Pagans are also closer to us than atheists, so we should be nicer to pagans than to atheists. You see there is a ladder.

But why don't you tell me about Islam's history and how it is unique in being the WORST non Christian religion Mr. Jack Chick. Or are you just going to complain that Muslims are not liberal because they have laws demanding women have headscarves and that they kill gays?
Why are you so eager to build a straw man of me? It's especially ironic that you use Jack Chick, given I'm a chronic D&D player and DM.

Simply put, Islam has always been at war with Christianity. It is inherent to its nature. The only times this has 'settled down' to 'rogue actors' such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS attacking us, rather than entire empires, is when the muslim world has been so thoroughly militarily outmatched that the futility of trying was obvious.

I can and have had individual muslim friends. I grew up in the muslim world, after all.

But it is impossible to have a cultural alliance with Islam, and even political alliances are only possible as a matter of convenience, against groups like the LGBTQ+ deviants; they will not last beyond the convenience.
 

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On the small scale it is okay to coexist.
But after that the more you get tje more you fight
 

Atarlost

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Do you take the same view towards Judaism? Do you know the story of Hamor, and the circumcised city?
If you can't tell the difference between peoples' sins being recorded as sins and a prophet speaking for the source of all morality in his religion directing his followers in his office as prophet to commit evil there is no point speaking to you.

It is not the upholding of the alliance that is the problem. It is after that Mohammed's followers in Mecca were commanded to break oaths and contracts with their neighbors who did not follow. This is an attack on the very moral and ethical foundation of civilization. Without binding contracts a people can never move beyond barbarism because there can be no trust in groups larger than maybe Dunbar's number squared if everyone has non-overlapping circles of acquaintance and trusts each others' judgement.
 

King Arts

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Why are you so eager to build a straw man of me? It's especially ironic that you use Jack Chick, given I'm a chronic D&D player and DM.

Simply put, Islam has always been at war with Christianity. It is inherent to its nature. The only times this has 'settled down' to 'rogue actors' such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS attacking us, rather than entire empires, is when the muslim world has been so thoroughly militarily outmatched that the futility of trying was obvious.

I can and have had individual muslim friends. I grew up in the muslim world, after all.

But it is impossible to have a cultural alliance with Islam, and even political alliances are only possible as a matter of convenience, against groups like the LGBTQ+ deviants; they will not last beyond the convenience.
You grew up in the Muslim world? Really where I did not know that, I thought you were from America and were some kind of evangelical or at best a Baptist.

Yes, us and Muslims have historically warred with each other because at the time most of the pagans(not all) had been defeated and so it was just between us to determine who was supreme. It's like any other political/civilizational struggle Athens vs Sparta, Rome/Greece vs Persia, etc.

But the situation has changed both Christians AND Muslims are weaker now, and there is a far more evil threat those that openly and KNOWINGLY worship satan. I'm not sure what you mean by cultural alliance I'm referring to a culture war here in America between the left and right. As for after the deviants are defeated and no longer able to rise up, obviously then the alliance with the Muslims will end. That's perfectly reasonable what is not reasonable is starting fights or insulting them while we are in the same boat together now.

The way I see many of us on the right it looks like we are sabotaging ourselves. The left actively hates both white people but more importantly Christians. Some conservatives see this and it's good they notice the problem but they seem to think that white Christians by themselves are strong enough to stop the leftists. The right used to have two big parties the religious conservative and the big business. However the business class is disloyal to the right and is in bed willingly with leftests. The left opened the pandora's box of identity politics it can't go back in they have 60 to 80 percent of black people in their pocket of democrats maybe later we can convince blacks to abandon the left but that's a long term goal. First we need more allies for the right if we antagonize groups like arab muslims having them as allies will be hard, but maybe you don't want Arabs, fine look for other allies. Maybe Asian people they are usually fiscally conservative and like safe orderly societies,(though sadly they aren't completely socially conservative as most aren't Christian so have no problem with things like gay marriage and such) but whatever the Asians are a decent block. But here is the thing when COVID hit people blamed chinese people as a whole and some started to attack or mock them. It's one of the reasons I but heads with Zach when he is a hawk towards China. The right always obeys the government line, while the left in the future will use any actions that happen towards groups like asians against us. That's why fuck what happens in the pacific what is happening here is more important. Making the Asian block loyal to the right would be amazing. But what about another block hispanics, Lantino's would be perfect they are mostly Catholic so they are Christian and would be amenable towards many conservative Christian policies. But again people will bitch about immigration, or even be racist. So there is a good chance they might become democrats and make the left stronger.
Like I showed three groups that could have been part of the conservative right yet idiots keep fucking it up.

If you can't tell the difference between peoples' sins being recorded as sins and a prophet speaking for the source of all morality in his religion directing his followers in his office as prophet to commit evil there is no point speaking to you.

It is not the upholding of the alliance that is the problem. It is after that Mohammed's followers in Mecca were commanded to break oaths and contracts with their neighbors who did not follow. This is an attack on the very moral and ethical foundation of civilization. Without binding contracts a people can never move beyond barbarism because there can be no trust in groups larger than maybe Dunbar's number squared if everyone has non-overlapping circles of acquaintance and trusts each others' judgement.
Do you have proof that the incident was recorded as a sin? It was just told neutrally it did not say if it was good or bad. Though there is slight praise towards it even.

Also explain what you mean, "they were told to break oaths and contracts?" Give an example I at least showed wikipedia you are just spouting your words. What wikipedia says
Muhammad did not rest for long and, accompanied by the Ansar and Muhajirun, made his way towards the Kaaba which is seen as a symbol of the Oneness of Allah. It was filled with idols, numbering 360.[5][18] He proceeded to knock them down using his bow while reciting the verse from the Qur'an:

"And say: 'The truth has come, and falsehood has vanished away; surely falsehood is ever certain to vanish." (Qur'an 17:81)[5][19]
This act was significant as it symbolized the removal of polytheistic practices and the reclaiming of the Kaaba for the worship of Allah alone, in line with the teachings of Islam. This event is considered a major milestone in the establishment of the Islamic faith and the spread of monotheism.

Muhammad began the usual circumambulation on his ride, and after completing the circumambulation, he called for 'Uthman ibn Talha, the key holder of the Kaaba, and took the key from him. He entered the Kaaba and observed images of the prophets Abraham and Ishmael, throwing divination arrows. He strongly denounced these practices of the Quraysh and ordered that all idols, images and effigies be destroyed.[5]

I mean he invaded the city and then destroyed pagan idols, not really bad considering that is what many other prophets have done look up what Israel did when they went to the holy land. The only tricky part is what is idolotry as it can be hard to define, but if these were pagans aka polythests those who worship many gods then it's obviously idolotry and not that bad. If they did this to a church then it's diffrent and it would be bad.

Punishing the Enemies[edit]

It was decreed that the shedding of the blood of nine arch-criminals was lawful, even "under the curtains" of the Kaaba. However, only four of them were ultimately killed, while the others were pardoned for various reasons. One of the individuals killed was 'Abdullah ibn Khatal, who had initially accepted Islam and was appointed to collect alms-tax (zakat) in the company of an Ansar. During a dispute, 'Abdullah killed the Ansar's slave and subsequently apostatized, joining the pagan Arabs. He remained unrepentant for this crime and even hired two women singers to sing satirical songs about Muhammad.[5][25][26]

Another individual who was executed was Miqyas bin Sababa, who was a Muslim. An Ansar had accidentally killed his brother Hisham, and Muhammad had arranged for the payment of blood money to him, which he had accepted. However, Miqyas killed the Ansar and subsequently apostatized, going to Mecca. Similarly, Huwairith and one woman singer were also put to death for their crimes.[5][27]

In contrast, 'Ikrimah bin Abu Jahl, who had attacked Khalid ibn al-Walid's detachment during the entry into Mecca, was forgiven. Wahshi, the murderer of Hamza ibn Abd al-Muttalib, Muhammad's uncle, and Hind bint Utba, who had mutilated his body, were also extended clemency. Habar, who had attacked Muhammad's daughter with a spear while she was on her way from Mecca to Medina, causing fatal injuries that ultimately led to her death, was also forgiven.[5]

Two chiefs of the Quraysh were pardoned once they had embraced Islam. They were Safwan bin Umayya and Fudalah bin 'Umair. The latter had previously attempted to assassinate Muhammad while he was circumambulating the Kaaba.[5]

Following the conquest, many of its inhabitants came to accept Islam and pledged their allegiance to Muhammad. Men came first, pledging full obedience in all areas, followed by the women. Muhammad, with 'Umar bin Al-Khattab acting as his representative, accepted their allegiance on the condition that they would not associate any other deity with Allah and that they would not engage in theft. Hind bint Utba, the wife of Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, came disguised, fearing recognition by Muhammad for her past actions, including her role in the death of his uncle Hamza ibn Abd al-Muttalib. When asked if they agreed to refrain from theft, Hind complained that her husband, Abu Sufyan, was tight-fisted. Her husband interrupted granting all his worldly possessions to her. Muhammad laughed and recognised the woman.[28][29] She implored him for forgiveness. Additional conditions, such as the prohibition of adultery, infanticide, and bearing false witness, were also imposed. Hind swore that she would not have come to pledge her allegiance if she had any intention of disobeying him. Upon returning home, she destroyed her idols and acknowledged her previous misconceptions about stone gods.[5]
So what contracts you are talking about? I see nothing wrong with ending polytheism, and banning theft, adultery, infanticide, and bearing false witness.

It seems like he was very merciful as most of the people were forgiven for past crimes, and there is nothing about oath breaking, except banning it under bearing false witness.
 

LordsFire

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You grew up in the Muslim world? Really where I did not know that, I thought you were from America and were some kind of evangelical or at best a Baptist.

Yes, us and Muslims have historically warred with each other because at the time most of the pagans(not all) had been defeated and so it was just between us to determine who was supreme. It's like any other political/civilizational struggle Athens vs Sparta, Rome/Greece vs Persia, etc.

But the situation has changed both Christians AND Muslims are weaker now, and there is a far more evil threat those that openly and KNOWINGLY worship satan. I'm not sure what you mean by cultural alliance I'm referring to a culture war here in America between the left and right. As for after the deviants are defeated and no longer able to rise up, obviously then the alliance with the Muslims will end. That's perfectly reasonable what is not reasonable is starting fights or insulting them while we are in the same boat together now.

The way I see many of us on the right it looks like we are sabotaging ourselves. The left actively hates both white people but more importantly Christians. Some conservatives see this and it's good they notice the problem but they seem to think that white Christians by themselves are strong enough to stop the leftists. The right used to have two big parties the religious conservative and the big business. However the business class is disloyal to the right and is in bed willingly with leftests. The left opened the pandora's box of identity politics it can't go back in they have 60 to 80 percent of black people in their pocket of democrats maybe later we can convince blacks to abandon the left but that's a long term goal. First we need more allies for the right if we antagonize groups like arab muslims having them as allies will be hard, but maybe you don't want Arabs, fine look for other allies. Maybe Asian people they are usually fiscally conservative and like safe orderly societies,(though sadly they aren't completely socially conservative as most aren't Christian so have no problem with things like gay marriage and such) but whatever the Asians are a decent block. But here is the thing when COVID hit people blamed chinese people as a whole and some started to attack or mock them. It's one of the reasons I but heads with Zach when he is a hawk towards China. The right always obeys the government line, while the left in the future will use any actions that happen towards groups like asians against us. That's why fuck what happens in the pacific what is happening here is more important. Making the Asian block loyal to the right would be amazing. But what about another block hispanics, Lantino's would be perfect they are mostly Catholic so they are Christian and would be amenable towards many conservative Christian policies. But again people will bitch about immigration, or even be racist. So there is a good chance they might become democrats and make the left stronger.
Like I showed three groups that could have been part of the conservative right yet idiots keep fucking it up.

Seeing you post this kind of thing honestly just makes me feel tired.

Do you think conservatives haven't tried getting voting blocs that usually go Democrat to align with them?

Do you think conservatives haven't tried outreach?

Do you think that these efforts aren't still under way?

What brilliant tactic do you think there is that will suddenly convince people living in Democrat slums to stop voting for them? Asians being discriminated against by affirmative action? Latinos who the Democrats are trying to turn into the new underclass?
 

King Arts

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Seeing you post this kind of thing honestly just makes me feel tired.

Do you think conservatives haven't tried getting voting blocs that usually go Democrat to align with them?

Do you think conservatives haven't tried outreach?

Do you think that these efforts aren't still under way?

What brilliant tactic do you think there is that will suddenly convince people living in Democrat slums to stop voting for them? Asians being discriminated against by affirmative action? Latinos who the Democrats are trying to turn into the new underclass?
No I don't think conservatives have tried to get the votes of these people in a smart way. Conservative outreach at most is them just explaining conservative ideals, they don't specifically try to woe certain segments of the population(except for big business) let's use Asians as an example. Conservatives simply say "Affirmative action is wrong people should not be given a leg up because of their race, every person should be treated equally and judges solely by merit." Conservatives always try to play this stupid high minded bullshit instead of getting right down to Asians and telling them "Affirmative action hurts your people and here is why" they also don't use the tactics that work for the left like removing statues of FDR or other people during world war 2 that implemented internment, or they don't condemn atomic bombings. Quite simply they should start trying to win the Asian vote and tell them that the democrats have historically oppressed Asians bring up the Chinese Exclusion act and how racial discrimination against their people was mostly done in California by the ancestors of the people in power there the democrats. Is it race baiting? I don't care, the democrats are the enemy. And thats just to start, I mean the only non white group the right can count on the support of consistently is Cubans because they actually escaped a communist nation. But no the right needs to remove any lingering racism, and meet with the leaders of racial groups that can be won over maybe Imams for the Arab muslims, or see if there is some pan asian group for Asians like the NAACP is for blacks and start making alliances with them.
 

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No I don't think conservatives have tried to get the votes of these people in a smart way. Conservative outreach at most is them just explaining conservative ideals, they don't specifically try to woe certain segments of the population(except for big business) let's use Asians as an example. Conservatives simply say "Affirmative action is wrong people should not be given a leg up because of their race, every person should be treated equally and judges solely by merit." Conservatives always try to play this stupid high minded bullshit instead of getting right down to Asians and telling them "Affirmative action hurts your people and here is why" they also don't use the tactics that work for the left like removing statues of FDR or other people during world war 2 that implemented internment, or they don't condemn atomic bombings. Quite simply they should start trying to win the Asian vote and tell them that the democrats have historically oppressed Asians bring up the Chinese Exclusion act and how racial discrimination against their people was mostly done in California by the ancestors of the people in power there the democrats. Is it race baiting? I don't care, the democrats are the enemy. And thats just to start, I mean the only non white group the right can count on the support of consistently is Cubans because they actually escaped a communist nation. But no the right needs to remove any lingering racism, and meet with the leaders of racial groups that can be won over maybe Imams for the Arab muslims, or see if there is some pan asian group for Asians like the NAACP is for blacks and start making alliances with them.
The fundamental problem with nationalists trying to woo minorities is that unlike leftists they are uninterested in shitting on own country and giving them special favors in it. Sure, something could be figured out with groups that are doing fine and aren't trying to fuck up the country like said Asians, but that's about it. You don't want to make the islamic lobby more comfortable and feeling more welcome, you want them out, you know it and they know it (or know you will want them out once they get further if you have any brains left).

As for Asia, well, half the nations from there have bad memories with Japan so its silly to jump to that, plus the clause about shitting on own country.

Yes, Asians aren't as racially collectivised as some other groups and to keep to own national culture if anything rather than a generic "Asian" one constructed to intersect with leftist pet peeves. In terms of significance in numbers and votes though this is completely eclipsed by how relations with Mexicans of varying legal status will go.
 

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