Interesting Military Facts & Stories You Discovered

Zachowon

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If that was true. We would have declared war in Britain for causing the death of Americans
 

Aaron Fox

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If that was true. We would have declared war in Britain for causing the death of Americans
But you didn't, you declared war after Germans committed a diplomatic idiocy of the century (and as you can imagine that's against some very stiff competition).
Largely because of what is essentially a fucking coverup from what I understand (while a significant portion of the US populous was Pro-Germany, a good portion of the economic leaders were pro-British). Germany literally posted a warning in the papers that their intelligence services had viable information that the Lusitania was illegally carrying war goods and would be a target and advised all Americans to not go on that ship.

It got buried to page 4... at least from what I remember.

I wouldn't be surprised that, years from now, we discover that Britain made the Zimmerman Telegram, not Germany. Largely because the British leadership was willing to go that low.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
I wouldn't be surprised that, years from now, we discover that Britain made the Zimmerman Telegram, not Germany. Largely because the British leadership was willing to go that low.
The Germans made that one, they admitted it during the inept handling of the fallout.
 

Aaron Fox

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The Germans made that one, they admitted it during the inept handling of the fallout.
Given everyone simply screwed anyone that went with the 'Lusitania wasn't carrying illegal war cargo' fact was decried as conspiracy theorists until the British Admiralty went 'yep, the Lusitania was carrying illegal war cargo' a few years back...

... I'm giving a tiny benefit of the doubt. Not large, mind you, but small. Hence why I said 'I wouldn't be surprised that the British would go 'yes, we did the Zimmerman Telegram just so we can get the US on our side during WW1' in years time',
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Kind of immaterial if the U-boat captain didn't know about it, though. Were his reasons ever given beyond it just being a British ship?
 

Aaron Fox

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Kind of immaterial if the U-boat captain didn't know about it, though. Were his reasons ever given beyond it just being a British ship?
If I remember right, he was given a list of RMS vessels that he was free to target without consequence... but that was from an article that I don't have the link to as I read it ages ago.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
...can we get a source about the Lusitania slowing and blasting it's fog horn.

I buy it carrying war material covertly, partly as a Brit ploy to get us into the war.

But slowing when you know a sub is around, when you are without escorts, and blasting the fog horn is a whole other level of conspiratorial actions.
Starting at around 8:00AM Captain Turner ordered the Lusitania slowed to 18kts due to fog. Sometime before 10:00AM she slowed to 15kts and the foghorn was sounded.

Source: Preston, D (2003). Willful Murder. The Sinking of the Lusitania.
 

Aaron Fox

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the Brits had also been running a very intense PR campaign in America, against the Germans from 1890 to 1910.
By the time of the Lusitania, American public opinion of Germany was firmly in Britian's pocket.

From what I understand, not really. The US at the time was very anti-British, at least with the general populous... the British targeted wasn't the general populous but the various elites, specifically the economic ones.
 

bintananth

behind a desk

A ninja tried to get the jump on special forces.
He was apparently successful because they had to call 911 for help after taking casualties.

I'm not sure what that says about the audacity of determined nutcases or the quality of US military special forces.
 

Zachowon

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He was apparently successful because they had to call 911 for help after taking casualties.

I'm not sure what that says about the audacity of determined nutcases or the quality of US military special forces.
It was the 160th. Pilots basically
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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It's kind of a dumb take anyways. If you actually read the story he attacked one dude outside the hangar with a sword so they locked in a hangar and the guy apparently threw a rock through a window and another person waa injured.

But apparently the injuries were so minor they're back on duty.

But apparently to some the ideal action is to charge out and rush a guy whose on drugs or mentally ill and engage in mindless vigilantism instead of having the police handle the situation. 🤷‍♀️
 

Zachowon

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It's kind of a dumb take anyways. If you actually read the story he attacked one dude outside the hangar with a sword so they locked in a hangar and the guy apparently threw a rock through a window and another person waa injured.

But apparently the injuries were so minor they're back on duty.

But apparently to some the ideal action is to charge out and rush a guy whose on drugs or mentally ill and engage in mindless vigilantism instead of having the police handle the situation. 🤷‍♀️
That's how I noticed it was 160th.
Pilots and that's it
 

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