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PsihoKekec

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Yeah, sounds like typical USAF self-promoting BS, there was probably another budget battle and they needed money for B-52s.

Here is the army version:
Having infiltrated into Afghanistan during the night of 19-20 October, the team linked up with the two Northern Alliance cornmanders on 21 October at Bagram air base and began looking for vantage points on the plains to call in close air support. They soon found an ideal position and established an observation post in the old air traffic control tower for the airfield. From that location, they could clearly see the Taliban positions in the Shamali Plains spread out before them and immediately began calling in air strikes on the entrenched enemy. From 21 October through 14 November 2001, the Special Forces directed almost continuous CAS missions against the dug-in enemy. The constant air attacks degraded the Taliban/al Qaeda command and control, killed hundreds of entrenched front-line troops, and disrupted their support elements. General Fahim Khan was encouraged to begin thinking about an immediate move against Kabul while the enemy was in disarray.

The Northern Alliance leaders originally planned a multiday, five-phased operation to take the Afghan capital. However, it soon became apparent to them that their foes were so weakened by U.S. air strikes that operations could be accelerated. When the attack was launched on 13 November, the enemy defenses quickly crumbled. By noon on the first day of the offensive, the operation had achieved all of its phase three objectives. Twenty-four hours later, to the surprise of the world press and the delight of the Northern Alliance, General Khan's ground forces liberated Kabul without incident. The Taliban and al Qaeda had fled in disarray toward Kandahar in the south and into the supposed sanctuary of the nearby Tora Bora Mountains to the east near Jalalabad. By early December U.S. troops were assisting in a ceremony reopening the U.S. embassy in Afghanistan's capital.

Series of air strikes over three weeks is much more believable than solitary B-52 with miracle accuracy.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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Yeah, sounds like typical USAF self-promoting BS, there was probably another budget battle and they needed money for B-52s.

Here is the army version:


Series of air strikes over three weeks is much more believable than solitary B-52 with miracle accuracy.

Can you actually post a citation of "the Army Version" since you apparently couldn't find "anything" an hour ago?

And keep in mind this started with you stating this was the equivalent of a story that never happened and the equivalent of blowing up trees and even discounting its existence whatsoever when I stated in response it likely was overstated in casualties.

Also it didn't take three weeks to liberate Bagram. Like you are aware how fast the initial advances were when SF's got on the ground?
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
Yeah all I can see is the single story.
The Army has no articles on it.
 

Zachowon

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It doesn't cover every event is the issue.
The Army will spread it by word over putting it in a document
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder

That's a summary of the entire campaign. Not something covering the specific battle. What you quotes doesn't contradict anything I said...

It does contradict your initial analysis that the Airstrikes were the same as Operation Allied Force however when again it's obviously vastly different situations.

Like I've read Wesley Clark's book on Kosovo and Doug Stantons Horse Soldiers, the differences in both campaigns is huge and it never took three weeks to Capture Kabul. It took a month to get there yes, but it wasn't some hazy retelling of staff officers lying about Special Forces combining weeks of campaigns into a single bomb run.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
When two eccentric globetrotters working for the British SOE hatched a crazy plsn to capture a German General headquartered within a Cretan Fortress...

 

bintananth

behind a desk

What? This was a thing? How come there's no reports of pastel colored triangular UFO's back in those days? o_O
Because pastels aren't manly and the USAF suffers from a chronic case of testosterone poisioning.

During WWII the British actually did use pink paint to camoflauge some DeHaviland Mosquitos, which were already faster than most Axis aircraft, to make them nearly invisible to Eyeball Mk.1 around sunrise and sunset.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
"On purpose" and "confirmed" should be added to that sentence.

USS New York wasn't trying to sink a submarine when she ran over what was probably one which was a little too close to the surface in the wrong place at the wrong time.
And the floatplane Swordfish assigned to Warspite nailed one at Narvik and generally speaking aircraft's kills are attributed to their mothership. The kill is actually pretty remarkable since given the size of the bombs used it basically required a direct hit to the hull of the sub to kill it.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
Gebirgisjägers managed to pull the survivors out the water though and they became one of the most successful U-Boat crews.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
This should emphasize how much the OCP uniform makes someone look compared to outside of it.
It is really good at hiding ones figure usually adding weight as the uniform is somewhat baggy
 

ATP

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Kazimierz Piechowski,polish boy scout,run from Auschwitz 20th June 1942with 3 others in german uniforms using stolen commander car.He was arrested when he try to get to France to fight - but other boyscouts in his town/Tczew/ was murdered by germans for being polish boy scouts.
Here,documentary:
 

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