In the long term, just how utterly buggered are the Left?

WolfBear

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I'm surprised at the amount of people who think the left are going to be around forever. When something as simple as education reform is a death blow to them, that should reveal how unstable and weak they truly are.

Remember, all their success is built off their opponents not reacting to them. That doesn't strike me as genius, more absurdly lucky.

The problem is, though, that it's harder to resist Leftism when Conservatism is sometimes/often Leftism simply delayed by 10-20 years.
 

Scottty

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I disagree.

Mostly because violence has never actually worked in the past.

On the contrary, violence can work pretty well to solve lots of problems, as long as you're in a position to deal out enough of it, and at the right targets.
But that's not what I was arguing for.

Hence why the people in the US are still subservient to the British crown.

Well, that's really a case in which the British crown tried to solve a problem with violence, and found that it didn't work.
 

Cherico

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On the contrary, violence can work pretty well to solve lots of problems, as long as you're in a position to deal out enough of it, and at the right targets.
But that's not what I was arguing for.



Well, that's really a case in which the British crown tried to solve a problem with violence, and found that it didn't work.

The british fought Us, the spanish, the french and the dutch at the same time with no allies because they had pretty much alenated everyone. The fact they did as well as they did was a freaking miracle and a testiment to their skill. That really should have been a war that laid low british power for a generation instead of the mear blip it actually was for them.
 

Vyor

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Both, applied as necessary and as possible. Basically how the Leftists acted throughout history: they had smart people infiltrating universities and elsewhere, and dumb brutes cracking skulls and making sure nobody opposed them.

If you try either of these, alone, it will never work.

Ok, so you want the French Revolution to happen again. Got it.
 

Prince Ire

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Hegemons heavily invested in their current world order tend not to outlive that order, but rather immolate themselves attempting to sustain it. I am extremely doubtful that the US would be in a position to push some sort of fantasy rugged individualist hegemon across the world. Especially since rugged individualism started an extreme decline in popularity almost as soon as the frontier closed and that's not about to somehow reopen.
 

Scottty

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Hegemons heavily invested in their current world order tend not to outlive that order, but rather immolate themselves attempting to sustain it. I am extremely doubtful that the US would be in a position to push some sort of fantasy rugged individualist hegemon across the world. Especially since rugged individualism started an extreme decline in popularity almost as soon as the frontier closed and that's not about to somehow reopen.

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