In defense of pedophiles

Abhorsen

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Don't kid yourself; whatever your ideological fantasy worldview tells you is true, here in real life the only people who write or think positively of raping little kiddies invariable end up getting outed as practitioners of those acts.
If so, then they should be punished for their actions. This idea of arresting people for thoughts won't lead to a good place for you. The government will then come for the racists, then the 'racists', then the not-woke, then the not-woke enough. A just law system punishes actions, not thoughts.
 

ShieldWife

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I don’t know whether or not pedophilia can ever be cured. I guess it’s not an outlandish assumption to make that it can’t be cured. Does accepting that mean that you’ll just go ahead and molest children? Not necessarily.

Though what I wonder is what percentage of pedophiles are also attracted to adults? It seems like it must be a lot of them. A person attracted to adults and kids doesn’t have to molest any more than a man attracted to redheads and is married to a brunette has to cheat with redheads.

If someone is a pedophile exclusively, does it increase the chances of molestation if they fantasize, use pornography, or engage in role play with an adult? I don’t know the answer to that.
 

Certified_Heterosexual

The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
If so, then they should be punished for their actions. This idea of arresting people for thoughts won't lead to a good place for you. The government will then come for the racists, then the 'racists', then the not-woke, then the not-woke enough. A just law system punishes actions, not thoughts.

This just in: "probable cause" is immoral.

If someone publicly defends pedophilia under their own name, then that IMO is probable cause for the police and social services to investigate.
 

Abhorsen

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This just in: "probable cause" is immoral.

If someone publicly defends pedophilia under their own name, then that IMO is probable cause for the police and social services to investigate.
This just in: @YeahOkayCool doesn't understand probable cause.

Defending a position, unless done in a way that basically admits to having committed it, would not trigger probable cause. For a similar reason, advocating for drug legalization isn't probable cause for a search warrant either.

Also, this point, even if it was correct, wouldn't refute my point of a just law system punishing actions, not thoughts. a search warrant isn't a punishment, though it can be harmful. It is part of gathering information.
 

ShieldWife

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This just in: "probable cause" is immoral.

If someone publicly defends pedophilia under their own name, then that IMO is probable cause for the police and social services to investigate.
That isn’t probable cause as any US police would define it. Maybe you’re thinking of “reasonable suspicion” which is when there is justification to stop someone, frisk then, question them, or investigate. It’s not even reasonable suspicion though.

How would you define “defending pedophilia” in your ideal legal system? Is saying that perophiles shouldn’t be arrested defending pedophilia? In which case, numerous people would be supposedly defending it. Is defending pedophilia saying that child molestation should be legal?

In any case, free speech is our most important right and people have the right to say those things even if you think it’s horrible. Compromising free speech would be undermining the most important values of Western civilization.
 

Certified_Heterosexual

The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
That isn’t probable cause as any US police would define it. Maybe you’re thinking of “reasonable suspicion” which is when there is justification to stop someone, frisk then, question them, or investigate. It’s not even reasonable suspicion though.

Fine, whatever, call it "reasonable suspicion" then, it's just a semantic game. Fact is, that if you are online defending pedophilia then you have given society a reasonable suspicion that you have a collection of child porn on your computer.

How would you define “defending pedophilia” in your ideal legal system? Is saying that perophiles shouldn’t be arrested defending pedophilia? In which case, numerous people would be supposedly defending it. Is defending pedophilia saying that child molestation should be legal?

IMO, any attempt to advocate for increased sexualization of children, the reduction of age of consent is the same as an attempt to minimize or justify pedophilia. I don't care who thinks it's unreasonable.

In any case, free speech is our most important right and people have the right to say those things even if you think it’s horrible. Compromising free speech would be undermining the most important values of Western civilization.

You know what else undermines Western civilization? Childfucking.
 

CarlManvers2019

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You know what else undermines Western civilization? Childfucking.

Also, social/political pressure based cowardice

I think Europe’s probably gonna legalise child marriage and say all those grooming gangs were “consensual” somehow

It’s weird, you guys have Lefties who hate the Male Gaze and yet try to be “progressive” or “tolerant” in real fucked up ways for “special” people
 

Certified_Heterosexual

The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
It’s weird, you guys have Lefties who hate the Male Gaze and yet try to be “progressive” or “tolerant” in real fucked up ways for “special” people

It's only confusing if you take their statements at face value. A few hopelessly naiive true believers aside, the entire purpose was always to wear down society's prohibitions on childfucking.
 

CarlManvers2019

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It's only confusing if you take their statements at face value. A few hopelessly naiive true believers aside, the entire purpose was always to wear down society's prohibitions on childfucking.

And to destroy the “normal” even what was already “weird” or not exactly something kid friendly or SFW, they already want to destroy that because it’s for straight dudes

I think they want a society of “selfless” cowards, both who can’t engage in what they like in the fear it “offends” someone and won’t fight back when there’s an actual existent threat
 

Doomsought

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Sexual attraction is a behavior. It has an innate framework upon which the complete behavior is trained, just like walking. However it is a predictive mental behavior rather than a physical behavior, so the feedback loop is much more difficult to manage for deliberate training.
 

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The Eye of the Boot has been drawn to this thread, and the laces of the Boot are not getting their daily recommended dose of tender love and care. The Boot is annoyed. There are certain people in this thread who are staking out extreme positions for whatever reason. Quite frankly, the Boot doesn't give a single good solitary goddamn which side of this issue you are on, wishing violent and gruesome death on people is bullshit. @The Immortal Watch Dog and @YeahOkayCool , cool your jets. Arguing that laws should be strengthened against pedophiles and child sex offenders is one thing, acting like an internet tough guy and demanding Mortal Combat level FATALITIES for the same is quite different. One is well within the bounds of civil discourse, the other is not.

The Boot is now very angry that the Boot has to soil itself looking at this thread, the Boot had been studiously avoiding it in hopes that people would be mature enough to behave themselves here without the Boot watching. The Boot is sad that is not the case.

Consider this a friendly warning to all posters. If this behavior continues, the Boot will begin stomping in a not-so-friendly manner.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Except that I'm not acting like an ITG, instead arguing from genuine belief. I mean, where I come from they used to pitch activists out of cargo planes...so it really doesn't seem all that extreme to me, seeing as these people are, genuinely what they are.

Sexual attraction is a behavior. It has an innate framework upon which the complete behavior is trained, just like walking. However it is a predictive mental behavior rather than a physical behavior, so the feedback loop is much more difficult to manage for deliberate training.

Behavior modification for pedophilia would have to be, extreme to a degree most civilized societies would find objectionable. Which is a problem, I believe in the 90's some states in the US used to chemically castrate them and or force them to take libido killing drugs as part of a condition of release. I am uncertain if that practice continues?
 

CarlManvers2019

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Behavior modification for pedophilia would have to be, extreme to a degree most civilized societies would find objectionable. Which is a problem, I believe in the 90's some states in the US used to chemically castrate them and or force them to take libido killing drugs as part of a condition of release. I am uncertain if that practice continues?

How bad exactly is that stuff? Do they come with extra side effects to mental health and biological processes?
 

Emperor Tippy

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Except that I'm not acting like an ITG, instead arguing from genuine belief. I mean, where I come from they used to pitch activists out of cargo planes...so it really doesn't seem all that extreme to me, seeing as these people are, genuinely what they are.



Behavior modification for pedophilia would have to be, extreme to a degree most civilized societies would find objectionable. Which is a problem, I believe in the 90's some states in the US used to chemically castrate them and or force them to take libido killing drugs as part of a condition of release. I am uncertain if that practice continues?

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