I want to get a gaming PC but I know nothing about them, any advice?

[ThatZenoGuy]

It really won't get loud at all. The cooler is massive overkill for the CPU already and the GPU is, uh, a 6700 XT, a 230w card, and it has a fan pointed right at it for that case. It's fine. Worst comes to work, he can buy an extra fan or two for like 20 bucks.

That parts themselves won't get too hot, but that heat ends up trapped in the case unless there's enough ventilation. Also in hindsight if OP doesn't know what computer to buy he probably has no clue about fan curves.

 

[Agent23]

You don't need that many case fans for such low end parts. The CPU barely hits its TDP and the lower power GPU will be getting directly fed by the bottom fan, where the CPU will have hot air exhausted out the back thanks to the fan placed there. It's not like I recommended a 4090 and 13900k with that case or something(though even then, at that point you'd have the money for more fans).

Worst case? Just take off the side panel.

Yeah, since they went below 22nm the TDP is not that bad, but I'd make sure to have st least 2-3 extra fans for intake and outtake.

What I did was to have two intake fans at the lower front and one side and 2 at the upper and the back of the case, but the FX series was a frigging furnace since AMD could not switch away from 32nm.

 

[Vyor]

That parts themselves won't get too hot, but that heat ends up trapped in the case unless there's enough ventilation. Also in hindsight if OP doesn't know what computer to buy he probably has no clue about fan curves.

There is plenty of ventilation. One in, two out(because PSU fan).

Yeah, since they went below 22nm the TDP is not that bad, but I'd make sure to have st least 2-3 extra fans for intake and outtake.

What I did was to have two intake fans at the lower front and one side and 2 at the upper and the back of the case, but the FX series was a frigging furnace since AMD could not switch away from 32nm.

Node doesn't equate to TDP. The 13900k is on a 7nm node and pulls over 300w, the 4090 has a 450w tdp on 5nm.

 

[Agent23]

There is plenty of ventilation. One in, two out(because PSU fan).



Node doesn't equate to TDP. The 13900k is on a 7nm node and pulls over 300w, the 4090 has a 450w tdp on 5nm.

Node size impacts energy consumption and efficiency.
And smaller components would mean less of a "surface" to create resistance.

I know what was required to adequately cool an FX vs. a modern Ryzen with the same core count and in the case of the Ryzen somewhat higher clock speeds.

But I will agree that if the architecture changes, like with video cards cramming more cores and increasing frequency you will get a higher TDP.

GPUs are probably the only segment that has continued to evolve at a high rete in recent years, since CPU speed and core count have stayed mostly the same for most product lines.

Hell, if pure speed is what you want I think that the old Centurion/FX-9k cclocks higher at iirc 5Ghz or above.

But that abomination required extreme cooling IIRC and they had to "cherrypick" the highest quality silicon for those units.

 

[Vyor]

Node size impacts energy consumption and efficiency.

Architecture matters more. It has always mattered more. The i7-980 was a 6c/12t CPU on 32 nm with a tdp of 130w, the contemporary FX part on 32nm was the FX 9590 at a 220w tdp. The first was faster.

 

[Agent23]

The... the thing I quoted?

How does it have anything to do with computers?

Let's see now, maybe it does because computers run on electricity...