They think the fans will watch anything with the name of the series on it, be it good ornot
Culture I saw the trailer for Star Trek Lower Decks......killll meeee.
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CarlManvers2019
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Are they wrong? Even if fans don't
They can feel great that TvTropes, Tumblr and Cosplayers are praising them
KilroywasNOTHere
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to be fair it's not wrong. create an OG work and nobody will give it the time of day, but decide to name the main character Bella or Elsa and slap a twilight or a frozen label on it, sudenly it's "Oh MY GOSH THIS IS SUCH A GOOD STORY!!!!" fnaf too to a lesser extent.
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CarlManvers2019
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Yeah, ever read Avengers The Initiative or Avengers Academy?
Avengers: The Initiative (Volume) - Comic Vine
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They were among the first comics I read and you know what? I look on the wiki and comic vine and guess what?
BARELY ANY OF THESE CHARACTERS I CAME TO LIKE EVER APPEAR AGAIN
Which was such a shame, given how well I recall they were written
Then again, they weren't "legacies" like Kamala Khan or Miles Morales and were going by their own names and costumes and such
No "passing the torch" there except for having been taught and trained under other heroes like My Hero Academia, Deku doesn't even decide to go by All-Might or All-Might Jr or share color schemes and costumes or sigils, how can he be a legacy like them!!!
Most of the ones in initiative are reassuring every now and then. For academy, they sorta had something happen that caused people to die, and all show up every now and thenYeah, ever read Avengers The Initiative or Avengers Academy?
Avengers: The Initiative (Volume) - Comic Vine
Avengers Academy (Volume) - Comic Vine
They were among the first comics I read and you know what? I look on the wiki and comic vine and guess what?
BARELY ANY OF THESE CHARACTERS I CAME TO LIKE EVER APPEAR AGAIN
Which was such a shame, given how well I recall they were written
Then again, they weren't "legacies" like Kamala Khan or Miles Morales and were going by their own names and costumes and such
No "passing the torch" there except for having been taught and trained under other heroes like My Hero Academia, Deku doesn't even decide to go by All-Might or All-Might Jr or share color schemes and costumes or sigils, how can he be a legacy like them!!!
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I wished to know what happened to Armoury, I mean for a character who only appeared in a few issues, I liked her
Wish Gyrich got the shit beaten out of him for that
She is a normal human now, and Is under watch, no idea where she is now.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I know, I was hoping to see her part of a continued plotline, I mean aside from that crazy MVP Clone(KIA), she was the only one her alien machine-arm worked on
Would have liked that one not aborted
Unfortunately, I guess she’s forgotten, shame
There is not enough writers and artists for every character to have a running plotline
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Yeah, though I guess the fact they weren’t legacies sorta helped in the being forgotten or the series not getting a sequel or continuation
Anyway, maybe best stop, still feeling kinda disappointed there
So... you're just going to ignore all the absurd bullshit the actual series did (just as an example, 99.9999% of Ferengi episodes), and shit on a work that leans into the absurd bullshit because it is not SERIOUS BUSINESS?
Hell, at worst, the level of plotting we're going to get is going to be on par with that Voyager episode where Janeway was shooting giant viruses, which is an absolutely fucking stupid idea that is canon.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
I will give the show credit for being more mature about it than Family Guy, but I just don't care. Rick is still a terrible person, and I am not interested in following his adventures any further.TvTropes I recall tried saying how different Rick & Morty is from the usual “Adult Animation”
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TBF, there’s a bit of a point there, given that Jellybean King’s actually portrayed for horror
- Rick and Morty is often seen as an example of this trope "done right". A lot of the humor is extremely sophomoric, with phallic imagery, burp/fart jokes, pop culture references and violence galore; however, much like Bojack Horseman, it plays the consequences of a lot of these jokes completely straight for the sake of furthering the story and developing the characters, who even at their flattest are much more fleshed out and three-dimensional than a good deal of the show's contemporaries. The most notable of this is the writers' conscious decision to make the occasional verbal rape joke while playing every instance of the act itself completely for horror, illustrating the difference between making jokesabout rape and thinking rape is funny.
That was horrible, and I hate you now for subjecting me to it; and this dreck was supposed to ease my concerns about the upcoming series? Maybe you'll end up enjoying it; but if that book is any indication, I certainly won't.If you're still having doubts about Lower Decks, check out these excerpts from the book the showrunner did before this:
bullethead reads excerpts from the prequel to Star Trek: Lower Decks
In case you don't know, a comedic Star Trek cartoon by the name of Lower Decks (ST:LDS) is going to be premiering in a few weeks. Since many people have expressed concern about this series, I will examine three or four stories from the previous Star Trek work by the showrunner of Lower Decks...
KilroywasNOTHere
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how is that worst than singing blast shield like a 12 year old.
Maybe it's just me, but characters being dumbasses is less of a problem than the script being written by dumbasses. Nothing is more infuriating than when the story has the protagonists bumble their way through, not due to their own flaws and lack of knowledge, but because the writers were either too stupid to think of obvious solutions or created a situation that only exists because of the writers' own stupidity.
STD and Picard tried to follow that formula as perfectly as they could. I don't recall it working out that well, maybe leaving that box is the best movie, at least until we have some showrunners that understand that "mature" is not the same as "using all the swear words because you're not on cable and you can get away with it".
AnimalNoodles
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Never saw STD, but Picard deliberately set out to deconstruct Picard and the federation. The central theme of Picard is that he, the avatar for white males was an overrated and privileged has been whose only redemption comes in dying for the POC..errr, Synths. Picard was endlessly humiliated and berated, especially by the female characters.
A Picard in the original spirit would have Picard being in quiet retirement, but immensely respected. He comes out of retirement for one last grand adventure, and then gracefully hands the reigns over to a new generation of explorers.
To be fair the Rot in the Federation was actually shown in DS9 during the Dominion War Arc. Starfleet did a lot of shady shit to win the Dominion War. Things Picard would have raised holy hell about had he been in the loop. Rot on that level and that deep does not go away it gets worst. You would logically end up with a very shitty Admiral at the head of Starfleet by the time of Picard. In many ways it is the predicted result of everything that took place over the past 35 years in universe. Picard was literally the odd man out in that new world.
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That’s like really unfair? And doesn’t take into account the views Roddenberry had late in life or the views of the writers? Especially in the Berman era?
Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
Maybe, I dunno, not much of a Star Trek guy. The original 60s series is fun and campy, but I just don't have any strong opinions about it.